[reh321]

Next time they are setting goals, we'll still complain that "they didn't say anything!" and "it's all empty talk! Where are the full specs of the next 5 cameras?"

Unfortunately, one way some Pentaxians 'have fun' is by complaining.

[Serkevan]

Unfortunately, one way some Pentaxians 'have fun' is by complaining.

It's unfortunately a pretty homogeneous disease, that one... Canonites and others have also been known to suffer from it

[mlt]

It's unfortunately a pretty homogeneous disease, that one... Canonites and others have also been known to suffer from it

Pretty common amongst anything containing electronics, there is always a better or upgraded model on the horizon. Just be happy our manufacturer of choice is still in the game.

[repaap]

Yeah, I just make one experienced add on this. I have to say that I was one day (yesterday also) shooting and quite a bit actually. With DFA*70-200 + HD TC1.4 and it has some problems to get from shortest focus distance up to infinity/past 2 meters. I suppose that it is because of that TC. As well as it does a bit decrade image quality, but that was expected. If i don't count that MFD-Infinity thing, which I can help just turning focus ring to get it to 'see' what is at there, it is actually very fast. i was chasing dragonflies(managed to follow some and camer actually did follow quite well. Not much to show thou...but i did scare a hare on move and just lifted the camera up and did manage get couple pictures before it went in bushes. What is great is that it was in shadow, there was a lot of branches and what not. It did manage to spot that hare through all that, instantly. Similar thing happened with dragonflies, When I managed to get those suckers in focus or in finder all in all, they were in focus, mostly. AND this is with 'slow focusing' DFA*70-200 + 1.4HDTC.


it seems more or less that it does focus and it does it fast, I have to say that I'm lusting after 55-300 PLM and I don't have any money...but just to see what this thing can do with appropriate lens. All in all I think that I'm quite amazed still and can't help of thinkin that this camera will enable more and more of those 'onetime in life time(which would not be true since there would be more than one)shots. There are many other things coming up my mind too...but I think that there arre even more pleasant things coming up. BTW I did use auto AF for this, as A-21 was/is better in other things. Now I'm beginning to find out which mode to use for which things and I have USER 1-4 reserved with different styles. Going to finetune couple of them with Sf functions(Very handy feature btw.) and cut it to be just 2, and doing the same to get optimum 'portrait' and 'macro' and landscape USER slot. Will save a slot for VIDEO too, as I'v played a round with that also.


Anyway, here is the picture.

[dicki]

I shoot makro, Insects, yesterday. I go crazzy with the APS-C.

[reh321]

I shoot makro, Insects, yesterday. I go crazzy with the APS-C.

Given the right conditions and time, you can get fairly nice photos of insects with "APS-C" even without using a macro-enabled lens
Pretty Bug - is that possible? - PentaxForums.com
although "eye-focus' and a macro lens would certainly simplify the effort.

[mlt]

Given the right conditions and time, you can get fairly nice photos of insects with "APS-C" even without using a macro-enabled lens
Pretty Bug - is that possible? - PentaxForums.com
although "eye-focus' and a macro lens would certainly simplify the effort.

So far, no manufacturer is claiming or has an insect eye focus setting. That level of macro work is probably best left to manual focus adjustments and focus stacking.

[repaap]

I shoot makro, Insects, yesterday. I go crazzy with the APS-C.

In good or bad way crazy

[dicki]

Oh, guys. I use Makro. Really.
I like to shoot an insect. The situation is in picture one.
While I look throw the viewefinder the AF-C jump by himself to the flower behind. Picture 2.
After some time and a lot of "great shoots" of the flower I take my picture with AF-S.
The flipping AF-C make me crazzy. With the old K3 I use one shott, only.


Dear Pentax: The self thinking flipping AF-C is not useabel !


Damn, I have no space for attachment.

[repaap]

Oh, guys. I use Makro. Really.
I like to shoot an insect. The situation is in picture one.
While I look throw the viewefinder the AF-C jump by himself to the flower behind. Picture 2.
After some time and a lot of "great shoots" of the flower I take my picture with AF-S.
The flipping AF-C make me crazzy. With the old K3 I use one shott, only.


Dear Pentax: The self thinking flipping AF-C is not useabel !


Damn, I have no space for attachment.

Yes, tou have to make sure that you are using right sel- group to keep AF in right target to avoid jumping I’v also tried to find the best combination for macro, and for other situations. Good to save the best combo to one of U- slots

[akptc]

Af is fast, but in some circumstances it tend to hunt. It hunts fast thou. It is not just my copy, it is quite known thing.

Would it be safe to say that it doesn't hunt anywhere near as badly as the K-3? I was just taking some "quick and dirty" product shots indoors in so-so lighting and af hunting started to drive me nuts. I want to buy the K3III but your comment gave me pause.

[reh321]

Oh, guys. I use Makro. Really.
I like to shoot an insect. The situation is in picture one.
While I look throw the viewefinder the AF-C jump by himself to the flower behind. Picture 2.
After some time and a lot of "great shoots" of the flower I take my picture with AF-S.
The flipping AF-C make me crazzy. With the old K3 I use one shott, only.


Dear Pentax: The self thinking flipping AF-C is not useabel !


Damn, I have no space for attachment.

With my KP, if I use single-point focus, I can see it focusing on an insect sitting on a flower, while nine-point focus focuses on the flower {the majority of the shot}.
I am certain the right settings will do what you want to do - but I cannot discus this with you because I don't have the $2000 needed to purchase the K-3iii.
You need to determine the proper method - then use it consistently

[repaap]

Would it be safe to say that it doesn't hunt anywhere near as badly as the K-3? I was just taking some "quick and dirty" product shots indoors in so-so lighting and af hunting started to drive me nuts. I want to buy the K3III but your comment gave me pause.

The thing is that K-3 original hunt in bad way and it won’t necessarily hit at all even if it seems to do so.

K-3III does not hunt in that way that it goes from infity to close and back. This happens in close (macro with flowers and leafs and stuff moving) situation like what I pointed out. Good thing is that it will hit and hunting can be prevented by doing thing what I pointed out. When it hunt in AF-C it search for the target and jump from one to other(and it does lock in each of them!)

If you shoot ‘product’ in almost any light, it will hit. I’v tried it In almost complete darkness and with tungsten and led and natural light.

Sometimes people should remember that busy backgrounds does make focus hard, especially when ‘target’ is similar to it’s surrounding things, so if you have wide AF array, instead if small, camera will try to focus what ever it thing you want to focus. Narrowing AF points down will give camera better change to see what you want to focus at. And that joystick is good for moving points around.

This camera Af is very good. Nothing you have seen before with Pentax.

[Ishpuini]

I'm just back from travelling two weeks through Sicily with the K-3 III and a fairly large selection of lenses. I must say the AF is impressive compared to what I'm used to with previous Pentax APS-C flagships.

I'm confident now to be shooting wide open for extreme short DoF a lot more than before, and without resorting to LiveView to make sure focus is accurate. That put me in a much more creative mood with the FA43 and FA77 esp, though in all honesty the recent firmware update on the K-3 II already improved accuracy on that camera a lot too.

Low light AF was spot on as well, which combined with significantly improved SR and high ISO IQ meant I got beautiful interior shots of the intricate details in the various Norman period/Byzantine style and Spanish period/baroque style churches.


For street photography (mostly with the DA20-40) I found the AF very snappy, never missing or hunting, giving me a much higher hit rate than I'm used to.


Also, the larger OVF is so much better for MF with the K50/1.2, but that's another topic.

[akptc]

This camera Af is very good. Nothing you have seen before with Pentax.

Low light AF was spot on as well,

That's really great to hear, thank you for sharing.