Why I won't be buying a K3 iii (maybe) and why I will be (possibly).

gatorguy · 04-13-2021, 02:10 PM

Originally posted by Kunzite

On the K-3 iii, like I said.
Of course, I will have no logical explanation about how I got one (despite firmly deciding not to). Won't even be the first time it happens.

robjmitchell · 04-13-2021, 04:23 PM - **1 Like**

I won’t be buying the K3III because I was just made redundant

I will hopefully be buying the K3III because if I can find a job quickly (2nd interview today) I will have a nice redundancy payout to leverage the wife against!

As a K3 user who has held out against the K1 and Kp, its not a difficult choice.

noelpolar · 04-13-2021, 04:34 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by robjmitchell

I won’t be buying the K3III because I was just made redundant

I will hopefully be buying the K3III because if I can find a job quickly (2nd interview today) I will have a nice redundancy payout to leverage the wife against!

As a K3 user who has held out against the K1 and Kp, its not a difficult choice.

Good luck with the Job!

**aslyfox** · 04-13-2021, 04:36 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by robjmitchell

I won’t be buying the K3III because I was just made redundant

I will hopefully be buying the K3III because if I can find a job quickly (2nd interview today) I will have a nice redundancy payout to leverage the wife against!

As a K3 user who has held out against the K1 and Kp, its not a difficult choice.

good luck with the job hunt

Batman_ · 04-13-2021, 10:39 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by robjmitchell

I won’t be buying the K3III because I was just made redundant

I will hopefully be buying the K3III because if I can find a job quickly (2nd interview today) I will have a nice redundancy payout to leverage the wife against!

As a K3 user who has held out against the K1 and Kp, its not a difficult choice.

As a fellow Melbournian good luck in your job hunt.

My job is also about to cease in a few months so I kinda know how you feel.

**richard0170** · 04-14-2021, 12:02 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by fg-one

One reason why I will not be buying a K3-III is bulk and weight. When comparing my Fuji X-T20 + 27 mm lens with my K5IIS + 21 mm lens, you are talking about 475 g vs 935 g. Carrying one camera or the other around your neck for a whole day are obviously very different experiences. I also like the EVF better, because it shows the actual picture that will be recorded. Talking about IQ, I think there has been marginal progress in sensor performance since 2010 and the Sony 16 mp sensor of the K5. To me, this minimal improvement is certainly not worth 2000 $. Looking at the IR or DPR tests, the 24 mp sensor of the X-T20 performs even better than the more recent 26 mp of the X-T4. Maybe the most recent cameras are valuable for people shooting sports because of their higher speed. I can still shoot sports using my K5IIS and manual pre-focusing. But frankly, the main reason for not buying a new camera is that it would not make me a better photographer.

You are of course, logically right in what you say. I bought a KP a couple of years ago because I "needed" a smaller, lighter camera than my K3 for my Ltd on other primes. However, my X-T1, even with a battery grip, with the 27mm attached is still smaller and lighter than the KP with a F 28mm f2.8, by some margin. And my XE3 even more so. Much as I love these Fujis though, I still get a kick out of using my Pentax gear, partly because I marginally prefer the Pentax images but also because I find something nice in use with the optical viewfinder and the general sense of denseness and excellent ergonomics of the bodies. Its not a logical thing, just a subjective feeling.

---------- Post added 04-14-21 at 12:10 AM ----------

Originally posted by robjmitchell

I won’t be buying the K3III because I was just made redundant

I will hopefully be buying the K3III because if I can find a job quickly (2nd interview today) I will have a nice redundancy payout to leverage the wife against!

As a K3 user who has held out against the K1 and Kp, its not a difficult choice.

I can certainly empathize with your first and second statements here! I have been holding out against the K1 since it first came out, what is it, 5 years now? I was still prevaricating until the K3 iii arrived. The K1 does offer some considerable improvements to my K3, but at a cost, not just financial - bigger, heavier, slower, larger file sizes and no built in flash. Money aside (Ha,ha - always a consideration of course), the K3 iii would offer the improvements that matter to me most at only the expense of the missing flash.

**c.a.m** · 04-19-2021, 06:41 AM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by Ofer Hadas

After SO many years with Pentax - Real straggle - staying with "Old" technology of DSLR or Start all over again and move to mirrorless

I think associating 'old technology' with DSLRs might be misplaced in light of the new K-3 Mark III. It seems that RIcoh Imaging invested a lot of research and development into the camera, including hardware and software, system integration, and production processes. The new pentaprism and viewfinder optics in particular stand out as a significant advancement, as does the entire mirror- and shutter control system.

- Craig

**Pål Jensen** · 04-19-2021, 12:43 PM

Originally posted by c.a.m

I think associating 'old technology' with DSLRs might be misplaced in light of the new K-3 Mark III. It seems that RIcoh Imaging invested a lot of research and development into the camera, including hardware and software, system integration, and production processes. The new pentaprism and viewfinder optics in particular stand out as a significant advancement, as does the entire mirror- and shutter control system.

- Craig

Not to mention that mirrorless is even older technology.....

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04-13-2021, 02:10 PM	#16
gatorguy Moderator Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Central Florida Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,092	Originally posted by Kunzite On the K-3 iii, like I said. Of course, I will have no logical explanation about how I got one (despite firmly deciding not to). Won't even be the first time it happens.

04-13-2021, 04:23 PM - 1 Like	#17
robjmitchell Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Melbourne Aus Posts: 1,776	I won’t be buying the K3III because I was just made redundant I will hopefully be buying the K3III because if I can find a job quickly (2nd interview today) I will have a nice redundancy payout to leverage the wife against! As a K3 user who has held out against the K1 and Kp, its not a difficult choice.

04-13-2021, 04:34 PM - 1 Like	#18
noelpolar Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Goolwa, SA Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,310	Originally posted by robjmitchell I won’t be buying the K3III because I was just made redundant I will hopefully be buying the K3III because if I can find a job quickly (2nd interview today) I will have a nice redundancy payout to leverage the wife against! As a K3 user who has held out against the K1 and Kp, its not a difficult choice. Good luck with the Job!

04-13-2021, 04:36 PM - 1 Like	#19
aslyfox Seeker of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Topeka, Kansas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 24,581	Originally posted by robjmitchell I won’t be buying the K3III because I was just made redundant I will hopefully be buying the K3III because if I can find a job quickly (2nd interview today) I will have a nice redundancy payout to leverage the wife against! As a K3 user who has held out against the K1 and Kp, its not a difficult choice. good luck with the job hunt

04-13-2021, 10:39 PM - 1 Like	#20
Batman_ Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 85	Originally posted by robjmitchell I won’t be buying the K3III because I was just made redundant I will hopefully be buying the K3III because if I can find a job quickly (2nd interview today) I will have a nice redundancy payout to leverage the wife against! As a K3 user who has held out against the K1 and Kp, its not a difficult choice. As a fellow Melbournian good luck in your job hunt. My job is also about to cease in a few months so I kinda know how you feel.

04-14-2021, 12:02 AM - 1 Like	#21
richard0170 Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2017 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,032 Original Poster	Originally posted by fg-one One reason why I will not be buying a K3-III is bulk and weight. When comparing my Fuji X-T20 + 27 mm lens with my K5IIS + 21 mm lens, you are talking about 475 g vs 935 g. Carrying one camera or the other around your neck for a whole day are obviously very different experiences. I also like the EVF better, because it shows the actual picture that will be recorded. Talking about IQ, I think there has been marginal progress in sensor performance since 2010 and the Sony 16 mp sensor of the K5. To me, this minimal improvement is certainly not worth 2000 $. Looking at the IR or DPR tests, the 24 mp sensor of the X-T20 performs even better than the more recent 26 mp of the X-T4. Maybe the most recent cameras are valuable for people shooting sports because of their higher speed. I can still shoot sports using my K5IIS and manual pre-focusing. But frankly, the main reason for not buying a new camera is that it would not make me a better photographer. You are of course, logically right in what you say. I bought a KP a couple of years ago because I "needed" a smaller, lighter camera than my K3 for my Ltd on other primes. However, my X-T1, even with a battery grip, with the 27mm attached is still smaller and lighter than the KP with a F 28mm f2.8, by some margin. And my XE3 even more so. Much as I love these Fujis though, I still get a kick out of using my Pentax gear, partly because I marginally prefer the Pentax images but also because I find something nice in use with the optical viewfinder and the general sense of denseness and excellent ergonomics of the bodies. Its not a logical thing, just a subjective feeling. ---------- Post added 04-14-21 at 12:10 AM ---------- Originally posted by robjmitchell I won’t be buying the K3III because I was just made redundant I will hopefully be buying the K3III because if I can find a job quickly (2nd interview today) I will have a nice redundancy payout to leverage the wife against! As a K3 user who has held out against the K1 and Kp, its not a difficult choice. I can certainly empathize with your first and second statements here! I have been holding out against the K1 since it first came out, what is it, 5 years now? I was still prevaricating until the K3 iii arrived. The K1 does offer some considerable improvements to my K3, but at a cost, not just financial - bigger, heavier, slower, larger file sizes and no built in flash. Money aside (Ha,ha - always a consideration of course), the K3 iii would offer the improvements that matter to me most at only the expense of the missing flash.

04-19-2021, 06:41 AM - 3 Likes	#22
c.a.m Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Ottawa, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,189	Originally posted by Ofer Hadas After SO many years with Pentax - Real straggle - staying with "Old" technology of DSLR or Start all over again and move to mirrorless I think associating 'old technology' with DSLRs might be misplaced in light of the new K-3 Mark III. It seems that RIcoh Imaging invested a lot of research and development into the camera, including hardware and software, system integration, and production processes. The new pentaprism and viewfinder optics in particular stand out as a significant advancement, as does the entire mirror- and shutter control system. - Craig

04-19-2021, 12:43 PM	#23
Pål Jensen Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 4,371	Originally posted by c.a.m I think associating 'old technology' with DSLRs might be misplaced in light of the new K-3 Mark III. It seems that RIcoh Imaging invested a lot of research and development into the camera, including hardware and software, system integration, and production processes. The new pentaprism and viewfinder optics in particular stand out as a significant advancement, as does the entire mirror- and shutter control system. - Craig Not to mention that mirrorless is even older technology.....