So what about that 4K video ?

madbrain · 04-28-2021, 04:32 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Dave L

You omitted most of my post though i.e. "Rather than spend more development time and money to 'fix' that problem, and push up the camera cost even more, they may well have made a straightforward business decision to cut out the frills (frills for most of their intended market) and to stick within a predetermined camera size and price point. Similar thinking may have influenced their decision to omit a flippy screen, GPS and even built in flash... all of which would have been useful to some people."

Not buying it. We are talking about a bug fix in firmware here, not a significant change to the hardware that would drive up the price of the camera in any meaningful way. The good news is that Pentax could still do the right thing and fix it in an update.

gatorguy · 04-28-2021, 04:55 PM - **2 Likes**

I visited this thread yesterday to see this discussion about recording times between a handful of posters. Just now I log in to find the exact same discussion with the exact same complaint still taking place.

Could we perhaps move on? Any point to be made was done 12 hours ago.

stevebrot · 04-28-2021, 05:32 PM

Originally posted by madbrain

On the contrary, there is every reason to assume that - historical remnants of the FAT32 file system, which limits files to 4GB in size.

I think I am starting to understand that the possibilities are limited here.

Originally posted by madbrain

One chunks files, while the other records to a single file and then stops.

Both respect the 4 GB limit. I wonder why? Lazy programmers?

Steve

(...this is getting boring and the electrons at my disposal are getting bored too...)

stevebrot · 04-28-2021, 05:41 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by gatorguy

Could we perhaps move on? Any point to be made was done 12 hours ago.

I'm gone...thanks for affirming the decision I made when I read the latest round of comments.

Steve

takumin · 04-28-2021, 06:13 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by gatorguy

What lens were you using. I couldn't zoom close enough to read it.

i’m using
HD PENTAX-DA 16-85mmF3.5-5.6ED DC WR

**caliscouser** · 04-28-2021, 07:02 PM

Originally posted by takumin

i’m using
HD PENTAX-DA 16-85mmF3.5-5.6ED DC WR

Thanks for the video Takumin.

Did the 16-85 do AF-C during video?

Can you summarize your opinions of the K3iii video for those that don't understand Japanese.

Thanks

takumin · 04-28-2021, 09:52 PM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by caliscouser

Thanks for the video Takumin.
Did the 16-85 do AF-C during video?

No
using AF-S.

must use a PLM lens to enable AF-C on the K-3 Mark III. That is, there is only one compatible lens ...

For reference, here are some videos taken by others with the 55-300 PLM and K-3 Mark III.

Youtu.be

Last edited by takumin; 05-16-2021 at 10:49 PM.

repaap · 04-28-2021, 10:55 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by takumin

No
using AF-S.

must use a PML lens to enable AF-C on the K-3 Mark III. That is, there is only one compatible lens ...

For reference, here are some videos taken by others with the 55-300 PLM and K-3 Mark III.
https://youtu.be/-yqqGNlKLyo

That is pretty good! Not only AF, but also SR! Sweet

---------- Post added 04-29-21 at 09:00 ----------

Originally posted by takumin

Thank you for watching my video

I watched it too even if I did not understand japanese

repaap · 04-29-2021, 07:32 AM

Could someone with K-3III go in menu and settings for HDMI out. What does it say. K-1 has auto, 1080i, 760p ... thank you

Edit: added after that 1080 a ‘i’, which means interlaced(same as old 1080i for faster than 50fps shooting in older cameras than K-1) this is why my footage looked so bad with HDMI. So, could you please check that for me...

mtkeller · 04-29-2021, 08:48 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by repaap

Could someone with K-3III go in menu and settings for HDMI out. What does it say. K-1 has auto, 1080i, 760p ... thank you

Edit: added after that 1080 a ‘i’, which means interlaced(same as old 1080i for faster than 50fps shooting in older cameras than K-1) this is why my footage looked so bad with HDMI. So, could you please check that for me...

According to the menu comparison tables, there is no corresponding menu entry to the K-1 ii's "HDMI out": http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/support/pdf/k-3-3_01.pdf

repaap · 04-29-2021, 09:34 AM

Originally posted by mtkeller

According to the menu comparison tables, there is no corresponding menu entry to the K-1 ii's "HDMI out": http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/support/pdf/k-3-3_01.pdf

Menu, ‘wrench 2’ -> HDMI out. This is what I mean. There is menu behind that selection. Push it and it will reveal options.

mtkeller · 04-29-2021, 09:39 AM

There is no longer a corresponding menu entry. Look at the link I posted. When the K-3 iii does not have a corresponding menu entry, there is a diagonal slash through the box on the K-3 iii side of the menu correspondence table.

gatorguy · 04-29-2021, 09:49 AM

Originally posted by mtkeller

There is no longer a corresponding menu entry. Look at the link I posted. When the K-3 iii does not have a corresponding menu entry, there is a diagonal slash through the box on the K-3 iii side of the menu correspondence table.

I wasted quite a few minutes to come to the same conclusion as you, but didn't think of confirming it with the equivalency menu. Much appreciated, I'll stop looking.

repaap · 04-29-2021, 09:59 AM

Originally posted by mtkeller

There is no longer a corresponding menu entry. Look at the link I posted. When the K-3 iii does not have a corresponding menu entry, there is a diagonal slash through the box on the K-3 iii side of the menu correspondence table.

Originally posted by gatorguy

I wasted quite a few minutes to come to the same conclusion as you, but didn't think of confirming it with the equivalency menu. Much appreciated, I'll stop looking.

Alright. Thank you for the info

although it was waste of time...

stevebrot · 04-29-2021, 10:38 AM

Originally posted by mtkeller

According to the menu comparison tables, there is no corresponding menu entry to the K-1 ii's "HDMI out": http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/support/pdf/k-3-3_01.pdf

I wish I had not seen that comparison chart...

Steve

04-29-2021, 07:32 AM	#69
repaap Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,242	Could someone with K-3III go in menu and settings for HDMI out. What does it say. K-1 has auto, 1080i, 760p ... thank you Edit: added after that 1080 a ‘i’, which means interlaced(same as old 1080i for faster than 50fps shooting in older cameras than K-1) this is why my footage looked so bad with HDMI. So, could you please check that for me... Last edited by repaap; 04-29-2021 at 08:23 AM. Reason: Added important -i-.

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04-28-2021, 04:32 PM - 1 Like	#61
madbrain Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 1,341 Original Poster	Originally posted by Dave L You omitted most of my post though i.e. "Rather than spend more development time and money to 'fix' that problem, and push up the camera cost even more, they may well have made a straightforward business decision to cut out the frills (frills for most of their intended market) and to stick within a predetermined camera size and price point. Similar thinking may have influenced their decision to omit a flippy screen, GPS and even built in flash... all of which would have been useful to some people." Not buying it. We are talking about a bug fix in firmware here, not a significant change to the hardware that would drive up the price of the camera in any meaningful way. The good news is that Pentax could still do the right thing and fix it in an update.

04-28-2021, 04:55 PM - 2 Likes	#62
gatorguy Moderator Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Central Florida Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,092	I visited this thread yesterday to see this discussion about recording times between a handful of posters. Just now I log in to find the exact same discussion with the exact same complaint still taking place. Could we perhaps move on? Any point to be made was done 12 hours ago.

04-28-2021, 05:32 PM	#63
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by madbrain On the contrary, there is every reason to assume that - historical remnants of the FAT32 file system, which limits files to 4GB in size. I think I am starting to understand that the possibilities are limited here. Originally posted by madbrain One chunks files, while the other records to a single file and then stops. Both respect the 4 GB limit. I wonder why? Lazy programmers? Steve (...this is getting boring and the electrons at my disposal are getting bored too...)

04-28-2021, 05:41 PM - 1 Like	#64
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by gatorguy Could we perhaps move on? Any point to be made was done 12 hours ago. I'm gone...thanks for affirming the decision I made when I read the latest round of comments. Steve

04-28-2021, 06:13 PM - 1 Like	#65
takumin New Member Join Date: Apr 2021 Posts: 3	Originally posted by gatorguy What lens were you using. I couldn't zoom close enough to read it. i’m using HD PENTAX-DA 16-85mmF3.5-5.6ED DC WR

04-28-2021, 07:02 PM	#66
caliscouser Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: SF Bay Area, CA Photos: Albums Posts: 1,037	Originally posted by takumin i’m using HD PENTAX-DA 16-85mmF3.5-5.6ED DC WR Thanks for the video Takumin. Did the 16-85 do AF-C during video? Can you summarize your opinions of the K3iii video for those that don't understand Japanese. Thanks

04-28-2021, 10:55 PM - 1 Like	#68
repaap Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,242	Originally posted by takumin No using AF-S. must use a PML lens to enable AF-C on the K-3 Mark III. That is, there is only one compatible lens ... For reference, here are some videos taken by others with the 55-300 PLM and K-3 Mark III. https://youtu.be/-yqqGNlKLyo That is pretty good! Not only AF, but also SR! Sweet ---------- Post added 04-29-21 at 09:00 ---------- Originally posted by takumin Thank you for watching my video I watched it too even if I did not understand japanese

04-29-2021, 08:48 AM - 1 Like	#70
mtkeller Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Sioux City, IA Photos: Gallery Posts: 938	Originally posted by repaap Could someone with K-3III go in menu and settings for HDMI out. What does it say. K-1 has auto, 1080i, 760p ... thank you Edit: added after that 1080 a ‘i’, which means interlaced(same as old 1080i for faster than 50fps shooting in older cameras than K-1) this is why my footage looked so bad with HDMI. So, could you please check that for me... According to the menu comparison tables, there is no corresponding menu entry to the K-1 ii's "HDMI out": http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/support/pdf/k-3-3_01.pdf

04-29-2021, 09:34 AM	#71
repaap Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,242	Originally posted by mtkeller According to the menu comparison tables, there is no corresponding menu entry to the K-1 ii's "HDMI out": http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/support/pdf/k-3-3_01.pdf Menu, ‘wrench 2’ -> HDMI out. This is what I mean. There is menu behind that selection. Push it and it will reveal options.

04-29-2021, 09:39 AM	#72
mtkeller Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Sioux City, IA Photos: Gallery Posts: 938	There is no longer a corresponding menu entry. Look at the link I posted. When the K-3 iii does not have a corresponding menu entry, there is a diagonal slash through the box on the K-3 iii side of the menu correspondence table.

04-29-2021, 09:49 AM	#73
gatorguy Moderator Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Central Florida Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,092	Originally posted by mtkeller There is no longer a corresponding menu entry. Look at the link I posted. When the K-3 iii does not have a corresponding menu entry, there is a diagonal slash through the box on the K-3 iii side of the menu correspondence table. I wasted quite a few minutes to come to the same conclusion as you, but didn't think of confirming it with the equivalency menu. Much appreciated, I'll stop looking.

04-29-2021, 09:59 AM	#74
repaap Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,242	Originally posted by mtkeller There is no longer a corresponding menu entry. Look at the link I posted. When the K-3 iii does not have a corresponding menu entry, there is a diagonal slash through the box on the K-3 iii side of the menu correspondence table. Originally posted by gatorguy I wasted quite a few minutes to come to the same conclusion as you, but didn't think of confirming it with the equivalency menu. Much appreciated, I'll stop looking. Alright. Thank you for the info although it was waste of time...

04-29-2021, 10:38 AM	#75
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by mtkeller According to the menu comparison tables, there is no corresponding menu entry to the K-1 ii's "HDMI out": http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/support/pdf/k-3-3_01.pdf I wish I had not seen that comparison chart... Steve

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