DPReview TV gets with the K-3iii

Paul the Sunman · 05-11-2021, 04:04 PM

Originally posted by luftfluss

APS-C is too small of a format for them, anyway!

HCB only shot 35mm, so not that different.

**caliscouser** · 05-11-2021, 04:46 PM

Originally posted by mlt

The Seattle office just posted a set of K3iii pictures, along with a nice description of the camera. Looking forward to their full review.

The samples are shot across a surprisingly wide selection of lenses : 16-85, 20-40, 15, 35 Macro, Sigma 18-35.
They're not portfolio shots, but a decent selection of situational shots. Nothing to complain about as far as I can see.

gatorguy · 05-11-2021, 05:00 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by caliscouser

The samples are shot across a surprisingly wide selection of lenses : 16-85, 20-40, 15, 35 Macro, Sigma 18-35.
They're not portfolio shots, but a decent selection of situational shots. Nothing to complain about as far as I can see.

My copy of the Sigma 18-35 was so far off on the K3III, but required no fine adjustment on two different K-70's. After setting -7 on the Sigma it now establishes focus faster and with more authority than on my other cameras. That lens has a new permanent place in my hardcase carry kit for the K3III.

house · 05-12-2021, 12:54 AM

If you compare the recent Canon M50 gallery with the K-3III gallery the former looks a lot better. Nicer weather and only low iso shots but the portraits are super sharp and images generally have lots of detail and accurate focus. I haven't compared relative cost of lenses etc but it's interesting.

Canon EOS M50 Mark II sample gallery: Digital Photography Review
Pentax K-3 Mark III sample gallery: Digital Photography Review

What do you think? I sort of struggle to find the focus point in many of the Pentax images never really gets sharp.

**clackers** · 05-12-2021, 01:11 AM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by house

If you compare the recent Canon M50 gallery with the K-3III gallery the former looks a lot better. Nicer weather and only low iso shots but the portraits are super sharp and images generally have lots of detail and accurate focus. I haven't compared relative cost of lenses etc but it's interesting.

To compare photos, you really have to go to somewhere like Image Resource's Comparator, because to be honest, these guys and nearly all reviewers on the Internet are lousy picture takers, it's why they're earning money on Youtube and not as working professionals.

If you want to see showcase images, look at what Ricoh Ambassadors like Rene and Kerrick and Matt have taken.

But that too is selective, it's really comparing photographers, this time, good ones.

We come back to the objective methods like Image Resource again. And it's why in rating lenses, the industry uses MTF charts, they take the scene and the photographer out of the equation.

house · 05-12-2021, 01:17 AM - **1 Like**

For sure you can't make perfect comparisons based on random snapshots. I just found that the K-3III galleries looked generally soft and had a browse concluding that the M50 looked better. Low iso skewing subjective impression I'm sure. M50 at thos K-3III isos would likely completely fall apart. The price of the M50 is about a quarter.

Regardless. Looking at comparable flower shots at low iso the impression remains. This is subjective though and I'd be interested to hear other peoples judgement.

Class A · 05-12-2021, 04:25 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by house

This is subjective though and I'd be interested to hear other peoples judgement.

Bear in mind that most of these (with the exception of some processed Canon RAW images) are SOOC JPEGs.

Sharpening levels are bound to be different.

Personally, I feel the Canon colours are pretty terrible; they look very artificial to me, and I don't think it is just the over-saturation.

None of the K-3 III images are examples of great photography but I don't think they are worse than the Canon shots. There have been worse sets for Pentax lenses and I don't see a reason to be dissatisfied what they did for the K-3 III. It's nice that they used so many different lenses, too bad no FA 31/1.8 Limited or similar was among them.

To judge critical sharpness I think you should download the RAW files from selected images for both cameras and develop them with your trusted RAW developer (bearing in mind that "0" does not mean "zero" in Lightroom and default sharpening levels, etc. could therefore be different, even if the slider settings look the same).

jcshellyg · 05-13-2021, 06:04 AM

Originally posted by Belnan

I think anyone expecting better AF than D500 perhaps had their hopes a bit high. The fact that it is almost as good is impressive. This is pentax's first pro level af, nikon has had several cracks to get it to that level. Overall a great job, she sequence looked like they were almost all in focus.

Yes, I could not see any bad ones either. I just watched it yesterday. The buffer in the D500 may be better but I thought the images they got with both were totally comparable. I have the camera but have not shot burst mode yet. No need yet.

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05-11-2021, 04:04 PM	#91
Paul the Sunman Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Melbourne Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,843	Originally posted by luftfluss APS-C is too small of a format for them, anyway! HCB only shot 35mm, so not that different.

05-11-2021, 04:46 PM	#92
caliscouser Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: SF Bay Area, CA Photos: Albums Posts: 1,037	Originally posted by mlt The Seattle office just posted a set of K3iii pictures, along with a nice description of the camera. Looking forward to their full review. The samples are shot across a surprisingly wide selection of lenses : 16-85, 20-40, 15, 35 Macro, Sigma 18-35. They're not portfolio shots, but a decent selection of situational shots. Nothing to complain about as far as I can see.

05-11-2021, 05:00 PM - 1 Like	#93
gatorguy Moderator Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Central Florida Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,092	Originally posted by caliscouser The samples are shot across a surprisingly wide selection of lenses : 16-85, 20-40, 15, 35 Macro, Sigma 18-35. They're not portfolio shots, but a decent selection of situational shots. Nothing to complain about as far as I can see. My copy of the Sigma 18-35 was so far off on the K3III, but required no fine adjustment on two different K-70's. After setting -7 on the Sigma it now establishes focus faster and with more authority than on my other cameras. That lens has a new permanent place in my hardcase carry kit for the K3III.

05-12-2021, 12:54 AM	#94
house Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Photos: Albums Posts: 3,306	If you compare the recent Canon M50 gallery with the K-3III gallery the former looks a lot better. Nicer weather and only low iso shots but the portraits are super sharp and images generally have lots of detail and accurate focus. I haven't compared relative cost of lenses etc but it's interesting. Canon EOS M50 Mark II sample gallery: Digital Photography Review Pentax K-3 Mark III sample gallery: Digital Photography Review What do you think? I sort of struggle to find the focus point in many of the Pentax images never really gets sharp.

05-12-2021, 01:11 AM - 3 Likes	#95
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by house If you compare the recent Canon M50 gallery with the K-3III gallery the former looks a lot better. Nicer weather and only low iso shots but the portraits are super sharp and images generally have lots of detail and accurate focus. I haven't compared relative cost of lenses etc but it's interesting. To compare photos, you really have to go to somewhere like Image Resource's Comparator, because to be honest, these guys and nearly all reviewers on the Internet are lousy picture takers, it's why they're earning money on Youtube and not as working professionals. If you want to see showcase images, look at what Ricoh Ambassadors like Rene and Kerrick and Matt have taken. But that too is selective, it's really comparing photographers, this time, good ones. We come back to the objective methods like Image Resource again. And it's why in rating lenses, the industry uses MTF charts, they take the scene and the photographer out of the equation.

05-12-2021, 01:17 AM - 1 Like	#96
house Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Photos: Albums Posts: 3,306	For sure you can't make perfect comparisons based on random snapshots. I just found that the K-3III galleries looked generally soft and had a browse concluding that the M50 looked better. Low iso skewing subjective impression I'm sure. M50 at thos K-3III isos would likely completely fall apart. The price of the M50 is about a quarter. Regardless. Looking at comparable flower shots at low iso the impression remains. This is subjective though and I'd be interested to hear other peoples judgement.

05-12-2021, 04:25 AM - 1 Like	#97
Class A Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 11,251	Originally posted by house This is subjective though and I'd be interested to hear other peoples judgement. Bear in mind that most of these (with the exception of some processed Canon RAW images) are SOOC JPEGs. Sharpening levels are bound to be different. Personally, I feel the Canon colours are pretty terrible; they look very artificial to me, and I don't think it is just the over-saturation. None of the K-3 III images are examples of great photography but I don't think they are worse than the Canon shots. There have been worse sets for Pentax lenses and I don't see a reason to be dissatisfied what they did for the K-3 III. It's nice that they used so many different lenses, too bad no FA 31/1.8 Limited or similar was among them. To judge critical sharpness I think you should download the RAW files from selected images for both cameras and develop them with your trusted RAW developer (bearing in mind that "0" does not mean "zero" in Lightroom and default sharpening levels, etc. could therefore be different, even if the slider settings look the same).

05-13-2021, 06:04 AM	#98
jcshellyg Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 184	Originally posted by Belnan I think anyone expecting better AF than D500 perhaps had their hopes a bit high. The fact that it is almost as good is impressive. This is pentax's first pro level af, nikon has had several cracks to get it to that level. Overall a great job, she sequence looked like they were almost all in focus. Yes, I could not see any bad ones either. I just watched it yesterday. The buffer in the D500 may be better but I thought the images they got with both were totally comparable. I have the camera but have not shot burst mode yet. No need yet.