Originally posted by ramseybuckeye Why would you need to pull out an articulating screen to see live view?
True, you don't need to pull out screen to see it. I think I was trying to say I don't need to as the angle of view is good on fixed. My testing on K-70 does reveal that angle of view is pretty good there too. I suppose I like the uncomplicated nature of fixed.
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Originally posted by Gray It's the reason I didn't buy the K-3 III and chose to stick with the KP in the Pentax world.
Being a keen hiker, and having several Olympus weather sealed lenses, I used the money to buy an Olympus EM1 III instead (for it's portability, IBIS, weathersealing, burst rate, accurate focusing, and... fully articulated screen). I'm neutral regarding EVF/OVF.
That said, I don't think I'd ever sell my K-5II or old Pentax lenses. But the K-3 III without an articulating screen just wasn't compelling enough at $2000.
I am a keen hiker as well. I applaud your Olympus, I think they are a good under-appreciated system. The single block nature of K-3 III is what appeals to me.
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Originally posted by JPT Pentax just released a video interview with a photographer which explains some of the thinking of not having a tilt screen. It basically said that it's part of their commitment to the OVF experience.
I'm not sure the explanation make a lot of sense, but it's good to see Pentax doing something to market the benefits of SLR cameras.
This video is in Japanese, but it seems to be partly targeted at English speakers. The translation you get when you click the CC button is pretty natural.
https://youtu.be/gM8coKJ__4o Good to see.
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Originally posted by UncleVanya Exactly this question came to mind.
Also a tilt screen is very different from an articulated screen. Most of us who complained wanted a mini k-1 screen or a tilt mechanism like the KP or perhaps the Sony A99. Tilt screens offer waist level mechanical options that no wide view fixed screen can. The wide view screen also won’t let me look straight up into the downward pointing screen when shooting over a crowd. Live tethering via WiFi is awkward but allows a hands and knees shot to become a tripod or bean bag shot and a comfortable photog relaxing nearby controlling the camera. So fixed screen isn’t the end of the story but it really puts me off. I’m also not a big fan of fully articulated screens.
I can understand being put off by fixed screen, especially when kit is expensive and multi-purpose is in mind. I will say, though, that in the case of "over-crowd" music photos, I tend to like quick deployment of a fixed screen and being able to see something that is "good enough" to get the shot.
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Originally posted by JPT I think they are hearing more complaints from users than they expected. That is why they are including this kind of explanation in their video. They'll probably think twice before they leave out this feature in future.
I've never had a camera with a tilt screen, and I honestly don't find the idea very appealing. It would just detract from the apparent strength of the camera body. I find the design of bodies with lots of folding and extending parts rather messy (including flash and pop-up viewfinders. Haing said that, I value live view for shooting above crowds and at low angles. I've just never had a problem doing this while looking at the screen from an angle. I've done this on GR cameras and the K-01 for years, and the K-3 III seems to be even easier because of the viewing angle and better live view in general (though I've only had it for two days).
I can see Pentax's dilemma. They have the simple tilt screen on the KP, but that lacks movement. They have the fold out type on the K-70, but that takes the screen off the axis of the lens and is unacceptable for a high-end stills camera. Then they have the cross-tilt monitor, which is great, but adds a lot of thickness. I guess the KP type would have been the most practical one to add for an APS-C camera, but I'm fine without it.
For what it's worth, I was asked by Ricoh/Pentax to complete a survey about future DSLR features recently, and I made a comment that they should include a tilt screen in their future cameras. That was on behalf of others, because I don't care myself.
That's a good summary. It is a dilemma for the company, as there are complaints. If I were to complain about the K-3 III, it would be about lack of GPS for nature/documentary purposes, and not the lack of tilt/etc screen.