I have big problem on my pentax K3III

**emilie** · 03-25-2022, 09:59 AM

Good evening,

I think , I'm going to cry, I always take care of my pentax k3III but there is a big issue there.
When I'm on picture mode (not Life View or not record mode), When i want to go on the menu or to see my pictures , nothing appears on the lcd screen....
So if i want to see my picture on my memory card or the menu option, i need to go on record or life view mode...
I try to do an update , it is not impossible. Because when I Turn the camera power on while pressing the MENU button ,

the Updates the camera firmware" NEED to appears in the LCD monitor.... So I see nothing....

And more over the button play to see the pictures or the menu button are not seem to be damaged or flotting..

i don't know if it s mechanic problem , or softwere problem

Somebody had this issues? Thanks

Emilie

**tmlawes** · 03-25-2022, 10:16 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by emilie

Good evening,

I think , I'm going to cry, I always take care of my pentax k3III but there is a big issue there.
When I'm on picture mode (not Life View or not record mode), When i want to go on the menu or to see my pictures , nothing appears on the lcd screen....
So if i want to see my picture on my memory card or the menu option, i need to go on record or life view mode...
I try to do an update , it is not impossible. Because when I Turn the camera power on while pressing the MENU button ,

the Updates the camera firmware" NEED to appears in the LCD monitor.... So I see nothing....

And more over the button play to see the pictures or the menu button are not seem to be damaged or flotting..

i don't know if it s mechanic problem , or softwere problem

Somebody had this issues? Thanks

Emilie

Hi Emilie,

Try pushing the "Info" button twice in a row. This enables/disables the back LCD monitor screen. It sounds like you may have done this by accident and turned off the LCD screen. This issue happened to me at one point.

Hope this helps fix your issue.

Good luck

**c.a.m** · 03-25-2022, 10:19 AM - **3 Likes**

Bonjour @emilie,

Originally posted by emilie

So if i want to see my picture on my memory card or the menu option, i need to go on record or life view mode...

Let's try something.

I can replicate the issue when I cover or obscure the Eye Sensor that is located immediately below the viewfinder eyecup.

Can you go into the Menu from Live View?

Go to Menu C4 Display Customization > Eye Sensor > Link Monitor Display > set it to OFF.

(C4 Personnalis. affich. > Détecteur oculaire > Lier l'affichage de l'écran > Désactivez-le)

Exit from the Menu. Then try to display the menu or display your images (in Playback) while in Viewfinder mode.

- Craig

**jersey** · 03-25-2022, 10:24 AM - **1 Like**

Are you trying to update with real update file on SDCard? Cause if there is no update file on card update mode will not start. If you have upgrade on card then maybe there is seomthing wrong with card. When you enter play on LV or video can you switch between cards? If not then maybe that is the issue.

As for dark LCD - do you have LCD screen enabled for photo mode? Press INFO few times when camera is in photo mode and on to circle LCD modes. If it goes black -> info -> parameters then set it up on parameters and try viewing photos. This should not have affected photo view but maybe.

And have you fiddled with parameters and button layout of camera? Perhaps you have set the play button to something else in photo mode? Go into menu, section C-2, Button FX and then check for play button. You can even turn it off if you want so maybe something changed there?

If not the last step would be camera reset (last menu, last point, last option - reset), choose to reset everything and check then. It would reset all settings to factory ones so it may help if something gone wrong in options.

Those are all ideas I got. I hope some help.

gatorguy · 03-25-2022, 10:54 AM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by tmlawes

Hi Emilie,

Try pushing the "Info" button twice in a row. This enables/disables the back LCD monitor screen. It sounds like you may have done this by accident and turned off the LCD screen. This issue happened to me at one point.

Hope this helps fix your issue.

Good luck

I have done exactly the same thing and made myself crazy trying to figure out what was wrong. Another helpful forum member had to tell me. More recently it happened again but this time it was hardware, but very fixable. As another also helpful forum member mentioned a post or two previous, a piece of lint or something got in front of the eye sensor to block it and thus the camera "thought" I was looking thru the eyepiece and the distracting screen should be turned off.

Blowing out the obstruction fixed it.

Almost certainly it's one of those two things giving the OP problems.

kypfer · 03-25-2022, 12:40 PM - **2 Likes**

My resolution to similar symptoms was to go into Menu C4 "Eye Sensor" and set it to "Link Monitor Display" - Off, "AE with Eye Sensor" - Off and "Detection Sensitivity" - Low.
If you can't access the menus normally, put the camera into LiveView and operate the menus from there.

sebberry · 03-25-2022, 12:42 PM - **1 Like**

I gotta ask a stupid question - have you tried removing and re-inserting the battery after a few seconds?

**Narog50** · 03-25-2022, 03:37 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by emilie

Good evening,

I think , I'm going to cry, I always take care of my pentax k3III but there is a big issue there.
When I'm on picture mode (not Life View or not record mode), When i want to go on the menu or to see my pictures , nothing appears on the lcd screen....
So if i want to see my picture on my memory card or the menu option, i need to go on record or life view mode...
I try to do an update , it is not impossible. Because when I Turn the camera power on while pressing the MENU button ,

the Updates the camera firmware" NEED to appears in the LCD monitor.... So I see nothing....

And more over the button play to see the pictures or the menu button are not seem to be damaged or flotting..

i don't know if it s mechanic problem , or softwere problem

Somebody had this issues? Thanks

Emilie

Is your back monitor black when you have this problem? I had the this problem and in my case it was the eye sensor that caused the problem and it is now replaced on guarantee. The monitor worked in live view, video mode and with the four way control but in camera mode it sometimes went totaly black and I could not use info button, menu button or look at pictures I had taken.

kypfer · 03-25-2022, 03:58 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Narog50

Is your back monitor black when you have this problem? I had the this problem and in my case it was the eye sensor that caused the problem and it is now replaced on guarantee. The monitor worked in live view, video mode and with the four way control but in camera mode it sometimes went totaly black and I could not use info button, menu button or look at pictures I had taken.

Count yourself lucky.
I couldn't get Ricoh UK to acknowledge a warranty problem.
They kept saying I had to contact their "authorised repair agent".
Their "authorised repair agent", who wouldn't reply to e-mail and only occasionally would pick up the 'phone, insisted they were waiting instruction from Ricoh.
Just hoping I never have to get the camera repaired … probably won't be buying another Pentax

**Narog50** · 03-26-2022, 03:51 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by kypfer

Count yourself lucky.
I couldn't get Ricoh UK to acknowledge a warranty problem.
They kept saying I had to contact their "authorised repair agent".
Their "authorised repair agent", who wouldn't reply to e-mail and only occasionally would pick up the 'phone, insisted they were waiting instruction from Ricoh.
Just hoping I never have to get the camera repaired … probably won't be buying another Pentax

I am sorry to hear that, when I phoned the "authorised repair agent" in Sweden and described my problem they said at once that it probably was the eye sensor so I got in contact with Cyber Photo (where I bought the camera) and they payed the postal fee and now I have the camera back in use again.

krazny · 03-27-2022, 09:46 AM

This thread is desperately lacking a reply from @emilie

**emilie** · 03-30-2022, 09:04 AM - **4 Likes**

Originally posted by tmlawes

Hi Emilie,

Try pushing the "Info" button twice in a row. This enables/disables the back LCD monitor screen. It sounds like you may have done this by accident and turned off the LCD screen. This issue happened to me at one point.

Hope this helps fix your issue.

Good luck

Thanks a lot for your help and information :-)

---------- Post added 03-30-22 at 09:06 AM ----------

Originally posted by c.a.m

Bonjour @emilie,

Let's try something.

I can replicate the issue when I cover or obscure the Eye Sensor that is located immediately below the viewfinder eyecup.

Can you go into the Menu from Live View?

Go to Menu C4 Display Customization > Eye Sensor > Link Monitor Display > set it to OFF.

(C4 Personnalis. affich. > Détecteur oculaire > Lier l'affichage de l'écran > Désactivez-le)

Exit from the Menu. Then try to display the menu or display your images (in Playback) while in Viewfinder mode.

- Craig

It works very well now , i reboot and everything , and yes it was a problem with a eye sensor too
thanks a lot !!!

---------- Post added 03-30-22 at 09:08 AM ----------

Originally posted by jersey

Are you trying to update with real update file on SDCard? Cause if there is no update file on card update mode will not start. If you have upgrade on card then maybe there is seomthing wrong with card. When you enter play on LV or video can you switch between cards? If not then maybe that is the issue.

As for dark LCD - do you have LCD screen enabled for photo mode? Press INFO few times when camera is in photo mode and on to circle LCD modes. If it goes black -> info -> parameters then set it up on parameters and try viewing photos. This should not have affected photo view but maybe.

And have you fiddled with parameters and button layout of camera? Perhaps you have set the play button to something else in photo mode? Go into menu, section C-2, Button FX and then check for play button. You can even turn it off if you want so maybe something changed there?

If not the last step would be camera reset (last menu, last point, last option - reset), choose to reset everything and check then. It would reset all settings to factory ones so it may help if something gone wrong in options.

Those are all ideas I got. I hope some help.

Thanks a lot for all your information , finally , I did a big reset and everything work again , Thanks , I'm so happy !

---------- Post added 03-30-22 at 09:10 AM ----------

Originally posted by gatorguy

I have done exactly the same thing and made myself crazy trying to figure out what was wrong. Another helpful forum member had to tell me. More recently it happened again but this time it was hardware, but very fixable. As another also helpful forum member mentioned a post or two previous, a piece of lint or something got in front of the eye sensor to block it and thus the camera "thought" I was looking thru the eyepiece and the distracting screen should be turned off.

Blowing out the obstruction fixed it.

Almost certainly it's one of those two things giving the OP problems.

yes , that was this kind of problem , but finally I reset everything, and finally , everything is all good. thanks a lot for your response , I'm so happy !

---------- Post added 03-30-22 at 09:11 AM ----------

Originally posted by kypfer

My resolution to similar symptoms was to go into Menu C4 "Eye Sensor" and set it to "Link Monitor Display" - Off, "AE with Eye Sensor" - Off and "Detection Sensitivity" - Low.
If you can't access the menus normally, put the camera into LiveView and operate the menus from there.

thanks a lot for your respoinse and advice !!

---------- Post added 03-30-22 at 09:12 AM ----------

Originally posted by sebberry

I gotta ask a stupid question - have you tried removing and re-inserting the battery after a few seconds?

yes i tried evrything , but evrything is all good now , it was a eye sensor problem and i did a big reset , thanks a lot

---------- Post added 03-30-22 at 09:13 AM ----------

Originally posted by Narog50

Is your back monitor black when you have this problem? I had the this problem and in my case it was the eye sensor that caused the problem and it is now replaced on guarantee. The monitor worked in live view, video mode and with the four way control but in camera mode it sometimes went totaly black and I could not use info button, menu button or look at pictures I had taken.

yes it was a eye sensor problem , i did a big reset , and everything is all good now. thanks a lot

---------- Post added 03-30-22 at 09:15 AM ----------

Originally posted by krazny

This thread is desperately lacking a reply from @emilie

Sorry , I was abroad In France , And I'didnt open my laptop for a few days , very sorry. i' will try to response quicker . Thanks

originalwinger · 03-30-2022, 02:27 PM - **1 Like**

Had something a bit similar happen this afternoon. I was killing some time playing with the jpeg options bright, neutral, etc when the rear screen went black. I was able to access the info and menu with a visual but if I took a picture there was no instant review nor could I review previous pictures. Remembering this thread I went through it and the solution was to remove the battery, thank you sebberry. Suspect somehow I confused the camera and it just needed to reboot.

03-25-2022, 09:59 AM	#1
emilie Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2021 Location: Arlon, Belgium Posts: 100	I have big problem on my pentax K3III Good evening, I think , I'm going to cry, I always take care of my pentax k3III but there is a big issue there. When I'm on picture mode (not Life View or not record mode), When i want to go on the menu or to see my pictures , nothing appears on the lcd screen.... So if i want to see my picture on my memory card or the menu option, i need to go on record or life view mode... I try to do an update , it is not impossible. Because when I Turn the camera power on while pressing the MENU button , the Updates the camera firmware" NEED to appears in the LCD monitor.... So I see nothing.... And more over the button play to see the pictures or the menu button are not seem to be damaged or flotting.. i don't know if it s mechanic problem , or softwere problem Somebody had this issues? Thanks Emilie

03-25-2022, 10:16 AM - 2 Likes	#2
tmlawes Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 770	Originally posted by emilie Good evening, I think , I'm going to cry, I always take care of my pentax k3III but there is a big issue there. When I'm on picture mode (not Life View or not record mode), When i want to go on the menu or to see my pictures , nothing appears on the lcd screen.... So if i want to see my picture on my memory card or the menu option, i need to go on record or life view mode... I try to do an update , it is not impossible. Because when I Turn the camera power on while pressing the MENU button , the Updates the camera firmware" NEED to appears in the LCD monitor.... So I see nothing.... And more over the button play to see the pictures or the menu button are not seem to be damaged or flotting.. i don't know if it s mechanic problem , or softwere problem Somebody had this issues? Thanks Emilie Hi Emilie, Try pushing the "Info" button twice in a row. This enables/disables the back LCD monitor screen. It sounds like you may have done this by accident and turned off the LCD screen. This issue happened to me at one point. Hope this helps fix your issue. Good luck Last edited by tmlawes; 03-25-2022 at 10:31 AM.

03-25-2022, 10:19 AM - 3 Likes	#3
c.a.m Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Ottawa, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,189	Bonjour @emilie, Originally posted by emilie So if i want to see my picture on my memory card or the menu option, i need to go on record or life view mode... Let's try something. I can replicate the issue when I cover or obscure the Eye Sensor that is located immediately below the viewfinder eyecup. Can you go into the Menu from Live View? Go to Menu C4 Display Customization > Eye Sensor > Link Monitor Display > set it to OFF. (C4 Personnalis. affich. > Détecteur oculaire > Lier l'affichage de l'écran > Désactivez-le) Exit from the Menu. Then try to display the menu or display your images (in Playback) while in Viewfinder mode. - Craig Last edited by c.a.m; 03-25-2022 at 11:11 AM.

03-25-2022, 03:37 PM - 1 Like	#8
Narog50 Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 4	Originally posted by emilie Good evening, I think , I'm going to cry, I always take care of my pentax k3III but there is a big issue there. When I'm on picture mode (not Life View or not record mode), When i want to go on the menu or to see my pictures , nothing appears on the lcd screen.... So if i want to see my picture on my memory card or the menu option, i need to go on record or life view mode... I try to do an update , it is not impossible. Because when I Turn the camera power on while pressing the MENU button , the Updates the camera firmware" NEED to appears in the LCD monitor.... So I see nothing.... And more over the button play to see the pictures or the menu button are not seem to be damaged or flotting.. i don't know if it s mechanic problem , or softwere problem Somebody had this issues? Thanks Emilie Is your back monitor black when you have this problem? I had the this problem and in my case it was the eye sensor that caused the problem and it is now replaced on guarantee. The monitor worked in live view, video mode and with the four way control but in camera mode it sometimes went totaly black and I could not use info button, menu button or look at pictures I had taken. Last edited by Narog50; 03-27-2022 at 09:22 AM.

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03-25-2022, 10:24 AM - 1 Like	#4
jersey Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: 3City agglomeration Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,056	Are you trying to update with real update file on SDCard? Cause if there is no update file on card update mode will not start. If you have upgrade on card then maybe there is seomthing wrong with card. When you enter play on LV or video can you switch between cards? If not then maybe that is the issue. As for dark LCD - do you have LCD screen enabled for photo mode? Press INFO few times when camera is in photo mode and on to circle LCD modes. If it goes black -> info -> parameters then set it up on parameters and try viewing photos. This should not have affected photo view but maybe. And have you fiddled with parameters and button layout of camera? Perhaps you have set the play button to something else in photo mode? Go into menu, section C-2, Button FX and then check for play button. You can even turn it off if you want so maybe something changed there? If not the last step would be camera reset (last menu, last point, last option - reset), choose to reset everything and check then. It would reset all settings to factory ones so it may help if something gone wrong in options. Those are all ideas I got. I hope some help.

03-25-2022, 10:54 AM - 3 Likes	#5
gatorguy Moderator Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Central Florida Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,092	Originally posted by tmlawes Hi Emilie, Try pushing the "Info" button twice in a row. This enables/disables the back LCD monitor screen. It sounds like you may have done this by accident and turned off the LCD screen. This issue happened to me at one point. Hope this helps fix your issue. Good luck I have done exactly the same thing and made myself crazy trying to figure out what was wrong. Another helpful forum member had to tell me. More recently it happened again but this time it was hardware, but very fixable. As another also helpful forum member mentioned a post or two previous, a piece of lint or something got in front of the eye sensor to block it and thus the camera "thought" I was looking thru the eyepiece and the distracting screen should be turned off. Blowing out the obstruction fixed it. Almost certainly it's one of those two things giving the OP problems.

03-25-2022, 12:40 PM - 2 Likes	#6
kypfer Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Jersey C.I. Posts: 3,593	My resolution to similar symptoms was to go into Menu C4 "Eye Sensor" and set it to "Link Monitor Display" - Off, "AE with Eye Sensor" - Off and "Detection Sensitivity" - Low. If you can't access the menus normally, put the camera into LiveView and operate the menus from there.

03-25-2022, 12:42 PM - 1 Like	#7
sebberry Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Frozen white North Photos: Albums Posts: 1,135	I gotta ask a stupid question - have you tried removing and re-inserting the battery after a few seconds?

03-25-2022, 03:58 PM - 1 Like	#9
kypfer Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Jersey C.I. Posts: 3,593	Originally posted by Narog50 Is your back monitor black when you have this problem? I had the this problem and in my case it was the eye sensor that caused the problem and it is now replaced on guarantee. The monitor worked in live view, video mode and with the four way control but in camera mode it sometimes went totaly black and I could not use info button, menu button or look at pictures I had taken. Count yourself lucky. I couldn't get Ricoh UK to acknowledge a warranty problem. They kept saying I had to contact their "authorised repair agent". Their "authorised repair agent", who wouldn't reply to e-mail and only occasionally would pick up the 'phone, insisted they were waiting instruction from Ricoh. Just hoping I never have to get the camera repaired … probably won't be buying another Pentax

03-26-2022, 03:51 PM - 1 Like	#10
Narog50 Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 4	Originally posted by kypfer Count yourself lucky. I couldn't get Ricoh UK to acknowledge a warranty problem. They kept saying I had to contact their "authorised repair agent". Their "authorised repair agent", who wouldn't reply to e-mail and only occasionally would pick up the 'phone, insisted they were waiting instruction from Ricoh. Just hoping I never have to get the camera repaired … probably won't be buying another Pentax I am sorry to hear that, when I phoned the "authorised repair agent" in Sweden and described my problem they said at once that it probably was the eye sensor so I got in contact with Cyber Photo (where I bought the camera) and they payed the postal fee and now I have the camera back in use again.

03-27-2022, 09:46 AM	#11
krazny Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 118	This thread is desperately lacking a reply from @emilie

03-30-2022, 09:04 AM - 4 Likes	#12
emilie Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2021 Location: Arlon, Belgium Posts: 100 Original Poster	Originally posted by tmlawes Hi Emilie, Try pushing the "Info" button twice in a row. This enables/disables the back LCD monitor screen. It sounds like you may have done this by accident and turned off the LCD screen. This issue happened to me at one point. Hope this helps fix your issue. Good luck Thanks a lot for your help and information :-) ---------- Post added 03-30-22 at 09:06 AM ---------- Originally posted by c.a.m Bonjour @emilie, Let's try something. I can replicate the issue when I cover or obscure the Eye Sensor that is located immediately below the viewfinder eyecup. Can you go into the Menu from Live View? Go to Menu C4 Display Customization > Eye Sensor > Link Monitor Display > set it to OFF. (C4 Personnalis. affich. > Détecteur oculaire > Lier l'affichage de l'écran > Désactivez-le) Exit from the Menu. Then try to display the menu or display your images (in Playback) while in Viewfinder mode. - Craig It works very well now , i reboot and everything , and yes it was a problem with a eye sensor too thanks a lot !!! ---------- Post added 03-30-22 at 09:08 AM ---------- Originally posted by jersey Are you trying to update with real update file on SDCard? Cause if there is no update file on card update mode will not start. If you have upgrade on card then maybe there is seomthing wrong with card. When you enter play on LV or video can you switch between cards? If not then maybe that is the issue. As for dark LCD - do you have LCD screen enabled for photo mode? Press INFO few times when camera is in photo mode and on to circle LCD modes. If it goes black -> info -> parameters then set it up on parameters and try viewing photos. This should not have affected photo view but maybe. And have you fiddled with parameters and button layout of camera? Perhaps you have set the play button to something else in photo mode? Go into menu, section C-2, Button FX and then check for play button. You can even turn it off if you want so maybe something changed there? If not the last step would be camera reset (last menu, last point, last option - reset), choose to reset everything and check then. It would reset all settings to factory ones so it may help if something gone wrong in options. Those are all ideas I got. I hope some help. Thanks a lot for all your information , finally , I did a big reset and everything work again , Thanks , I'm so happy ! ---------- Post added 03-30-22 at 09:10 AM ---------- Originally posted by gatorguy I have done exactly the same thing and made myself crazy trying to figure out what was wrong. Another helpful forum member had to tell me. More recently it happened again but this time it was hardware, but very fixable. As another also helpful forum member mentioned a post or two previous, a piece of lint or something got in front of the eye sensor to block it and thus the camera "thought" I was looking thru the eyepiece and the distracting screen should be turned off. Blowing out the obstruction fixed it. Almost certainly it's one of those two things giving the OP problems. yes , that was this kind of problem , but finally I reset everything, and finally , everything is all good. thanks a lot for your response , I'm so happy ! ---------- Post added 03-30-22 at 09:11 AM ---------- Originally posted by kypfer My resolution to similar symptoms was to go into Menu C4 "Eye Sensor" and set it to "Link Monitor Display" - Off, "AE with Eye Sensor" - Off and "Detection Sensitivity" - Low. If you can't access the menus normally, put the camera into LiveView and operate the menus from there. thanks a lot for your respoinse and advice !! ---------- Post added 03-30-22 at 09:12 AM ---------- Originally posted by sebberry I gotta ask a stupid question - have you tried removing and re-inserting the battery after a few seconds? yes i tried evrything , but evrything is all good now , it was a eye sensor problem and i did a big reset , thanks a lot ---------- Post added 03-30-22 at 09:13 AM ---------- Originally posted by Narog50 Is your back monitor black when you have this problem? I had the this problem and in my case it was the eye sensor that caused the problem and it is now replaced on guarantee. The monitor worked in live view, video mode and with the four way control but in camera mode it sometimes went totaly black and I could not use info button, menu button or look at pictures I had taken. yes it was a eye sensor problem , i did a big reset , and everything is all good now. thanks a lot ---------- Post added 03-30-22 at 09:15 AM ---------- Originally posted by krazny This thread is desperately lacking a reply from @emilie Sorry , I was abroad In France , And I'didnt open my laptop for a few days , very sorry. i' will try to response quicker . Thanks

03-30-2022, 02:27 PM - 1 Like	#13
originalwinger Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Oro Station, Ont. Canada Posts: 169	Had something a bit similar happen this afternoon. I was killing some time playing with the jpeg options bright, neutral, etc when the rear screen went black. I was able to access the info and menu with a visual but if I took a picture there was no instant review nor could I review previous pictures. Remembering this thread I went through it and the solution was to remove the battery, thank you sebberry. Suspect somehow I confused the camera and it just needed to reboot.