Numbering reset always after number 9999 ?

Rikoo Lah · 07-13-2022, 11:44 AM

Hello everyone,

Hope you're doing great ?

I am really confused...

Is there a way for the K3lll to NOT reset numbering file after 9999 ?

Because taking 7000 pictures a day right now, if I don't think to change the folder name, I have to sort them by hour at the end of the day for my client because on his website he sorts the picture by hour, like between 9am-10am, 10am-11am, 11am-12pm, etc...

Even for me because I want all my wildlife pictures to be in the same folder on my hard-drive and so many time two files had the same name...

This is really annoying.
My friend, with his Sony A74 doesn't have this problem because the number of the file just keep going until his shutter will die ;-) And this seems really logical!

I read the manual but it seems that this option is not available, right ?

Thank you so much

ps: I know that some softwares can rename files but with a camera like this one I find it disappointed..

pschlute · 07-13-2022, 12:23 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Rikoo Lah

Because taking 7000 pictures a day right now

You are going to need to buy a new camera in two months !

Not a Number · 07-13-2022, 12:23 PM

Unfortunately Ricoh has opted to continue to conform to the file naming conventions of the Design Rule for Camera filing systems. You are not alone in your frustrations. The system is some what outdated being limited by the "eight dot three" file name length.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_rule_for_Camera_File_system

I'm sure others will share their workflow metheds to try to overcome the limitations.

**bwgv001** · 07-13-2022, 12:26 PM - **3 Likes**

I change the filename, so that it includes a leading number. so K1_0XXXX would be you counter, once you hit 9999, sou change filename to K1_1XXXX, K1_2XXXX, and so on. And yes you have to watch the filenames to catch the proper change

phoebus · 07-13-2022, 12:36 PM

Originally posted by Rikoo Lah

...Is there a way for the K3lll to NOT reset numbering file after 9999 ?

No

Originally posted by Rikoo Lah

...Because taking 7000 pictures a day right now, if I don't think to change the folder name, I have to sort them by hour at the end of the day for my client because on his website he sorts the picture by hour, like between 9am-10am, 10am-11am, 11am-12pm, etc...

If you used software to do this task, wouldn't that solve all your other problems as well?

ExifTool can rename files to virtually anything. You can find it on https://exiftool.org/

If you can write simple batch programs for your computer, this could automate all the tasks for you.

There is a full guide on the website above; but here is a link to the exact bit you need - https://exiftool.org/#filename

Hope that helps!

**MossyRocks** · 07-13-2022, 12:44 PM

I'm one of those weird linux users so I just use the bash shell and whip up a one line script to do it when I need to which isn't very often.

When I got my K-3iii and went and set things up how I wanted them to be I seem to remember that there may have been an option to reset the counter each day. I could be wrong or misremembering things as there were lots of options to play with.

kypfer · 07-13-2022, 02:17 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by bwgv001

I change the filename, so that it includes a leading number. so K1_0XXXX would be you counter, once you hit 9999, sou change filename to K1_1XXXX, K1_2XXXX, and so on. And yes you have to watch the filenames to catch the proper change

I got into the habit of doing this with my K-70 and my KP, so dealing with the "roll-over" on my K-3iii a couple of weeks ago was "normal"

Failing a firmware update to cope with a different numbering system it's just a "feature" I've learnt to live with!

**microlight** · 07-13-2022, 03:07 PM - **1 Like**

Same here; I use the same system with the K-3II. It’s a bit clunky, but there you go.

**ProfessorBuzz** · 07-13-2022, 04:21 PM - **1 Like**

So I just have to ask - how could you possibly be taking 7000 photographs a day?
Assuming a 12 hour work day, 12 * 60 minutes = 720 minutes, which means about 10 photos per minute.

bschriver11 · 07-13-2022, 07:30 PM - **1 Like**

Sounds like a Pentax endurance test!!

leekil · 07-13-2022, 11:35 PM

School photographer?

35mmfilmfan · 07-14-2022, 12:20 AM

Can I just ask - how do you get 7000+ images on a card ? Mine max out at about 1500 - 1600.

Roadboat24 · 07-14-2022, 04:17 AM

Originally posted by ProfessorBuzz

So I just have to ask - how could you possibly be taking 7000 photographs a day?
Assuming a 12 hour work day, 12 * 60 minutes = 720 minutes, which means about 10 photos per minute.

Sounds Like time-lapse to me

**Pål Jensen** · 07-14-2022, 05:04 AM

I haven't shot 9999 images in total with any camera ever.....

**UncleVanya** · 07-14-2022, 05:23 AM

Originally posted by 35mmfilmfan

Can I just ask - how do you get 7000+ images on a card ? Mine max out at about 1500 - 1600.

Suspect not using raw?

07-13-2022, 11:44 AM	#1
Rikoo Lah New Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: France Photos: Albums Posts: 18	Numbering reset always after number 9999 ? Hello everyone, Hope you're doing great ? I am really confused... Is there a way for the K3lll to NOT reset numbering file after 9999 ? Because taking 7000 pictures a day right now, if I don't think to change the folder name, I have to sort them by hour at the end of the day for my client because on his website he sorts the picture by hour, like between 9am-10am, 10am-11am, 11am-12pm, etc... Even for me because I want all my wildlife pictures to be in the same folder on my hard-drive and so many time two files had the same name... This is really annoying. My friend, with his Sony A74 doesn't have this problem because the number of the file just keep going until his shutter will die ;-) And this seems really logical! I read the manual but it seems that this option is not available, right ? Thank you so much ps: I know that some softwares can rename files but with a camera like this one I find it disappointed..

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07-13-2022, 12:23 PM - 1 Like	#2
pschlute Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Surrey, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,204	Originally posted by Rikoo Lah Because taking 7000 pictures a day right now You are going to need to buy a new camera in two months !

07-13-2022, 12:23 PM	#3
Not a Number Moderator Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Venice, CA Posts: 10,526	Unfortunately Ricoh has opted to continue to conform to the file naming conventions of the Design Rule for Camera filing systems. You are not alone in your frustrations. The system is some what outdated being limited by the "eight dot three" file name length. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_rule_for_Camera_File_system I'm sure others will share their workflow metheds to try to overcome the limitations.

07-13-2022, 12:26 PM - 3 Likes	#4
bwgv001 Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Alabama Photos: Gallery Posts: 697	I change the filename, so that it includes a leading number. so K1_0XXXX would be you counter, once you hit 9999, sou change filename to K1_1XXXX, K1_2XXXX, and so on. And yes you have to watch the filenames to catch the proper change

07-13-2022, 12:36 PM	#5
phoebus Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Buckinghamshire (UK) / Morbihan (FR) Photos: Gallery Posts: 470	Originally posted by Rikoo Lah ...Is there a way for the K3lll to NOT reset numbering file after 9999 ? No Originally posted by Rikoo Lah ...Because taking 7000 pictures a day right now, if I don't think to change the folder name, I have to sort them by hour at the end of the day for my client because on his website he sorts the picture by hour, like between 9am-10am, 10am-11am, 11am-12pm, etc... If you used software to do this task, wouldn't that solve all your other problems as well? ExifTool can rename files to virtually anything. You can find it on https://exiftool.org/ If you can write simple batch programs for your computer, this could automate all the tasks for you. There is a full guide on the website above; but here is a link to the exact bit you need - https://exiftool.org/#filename Hope that helps!

07-13-2022, 12:44 PM	#6
MossyRocks Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Minnesota Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,982	I'm one of those weird linux users so I just use the bash shell and whip up a one line script to do it when I need to which isn't very often. When I got my K-3iii and went and set things up how I wanted them to be I seem to remember that there may have been an option to reset the counter each day. I could be wrong or misremembering things as there were lots of options to play with.

07-13-2022, 02:17 PM - 1 Like	#7
kypfer Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Jersey C.I. Posts: 3,594	Originally posted by bwgv001 I change the filename, so that it includes a leading number. so K1_0XXXX would be you counter, once you hit 9999, sou change filename to K1_1XXXX, K1_2XXXX, and so on. And yes you have to watch the filenames to catch the proper change I got into the habit of doing this with my K-70 and my KP, so dealing with the "roll-over" on my K-3iii a couple of weeks ago was "normal" Failing a firmware update to cope with a different numbering system it's just a "feature" I've learnt to live with!

07-13-2022, 03:07 PM - 1 Like	#8
microlight Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,129	Same here; I use the same system with the K-3II. It’s a bit clunky, but there you go.

07-13-2022, 04:21 PM - 1 Like	#9
ProfessorBuzz Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2018 Posts: 1,903	So I just have to ask - how could you possibly be taking 7000 photographs a day? Assuming a 12 hour work day, 12 * 60 minutes = 720 minutes, which means about 10 photos per minute.

07-13-2022, 07:30 PM - 1 Like	#10
bschriver11 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2008 Location: Maryland Photos: Gallery Posts: 558	Sounds like a Pentax endurance test!!

07-13-2022, 11:35 PM	#11
leekil Pentaxian Join Date: May 2016 Photos: Albums Posts: 2,003	School photographer?

07-14-2022, 12:20 AM	#12
35mmfilmfan Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Norfolk, UK Posts: 4,329	Can I just ask - how do you get 7000+ images on a card ? Mine max out at about 1500 - 1600.

07-14-2022, 04:17 AM	#13
Roadboat24 Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2017 Posts: 488	Originally posted by ProfessorBuzz So I just have to ask - how could you possibly be taking 7000 photographs a day? Assuming a 12 hour work day, 12 * 60 minutes = 720 minutes, which means about 10 photos per minute. Sounds Like time-lapse to me

07-14-2022, 05:04 AM	#14
Pål Jensen Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 4,371	I haven't shot 9999 images in total with any camera ever.....

07-14-2022, 05:23 AM	#15
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,411	Originally posted by 35mmfilmfan Can I just ask - how do you get 7000+ images on a card ? Mine max out at about 1500 - 1600. Suspect not using raw?