Cokin P Series Holder

cali92rs · 05-24-2012, 10:37 AM

I was looking at getting into the Cokin P series.
My question is can the holder be rotated so that the graduation isnt horizontal but tilted or vertical?

Thanks in advance

**jatrax** · 05-24-2012, 11:40 AM

Cokin A does. It has an adapter that threads onto the lens filter rings and the Cokin holder attaches to and rotates around the adapter.

I think the P is the same but I don't have one so can't be 100% sure.

cali92rs · 05-24-2012, 12:27 PM

OK, thanks, that makes sense.

Have you experienced any problems with color casts? I am going to be using these filters with film, so if they do indeed have color casts, I may have to look at the more expensive options

mikeSF · 05-24-2012, 12:41 PM

P does absolutely [rotate]

Last edited by mikeSF; 05-24-2012 at 02:50 PM.

cali92rs · 05-24-2012, 01:18 PM

Originally posted by mikeSF

P does absolutely

P does meaning it rotates, or has a color cast?
Sorry

excanonfd · 05-24-2012, 01:44 PM

All square/rectangular filter holder rotates around the lens adapter ring, some are stiffer than others but they are designed to be rotated to suit the shooter's composition.

anthers · 05-24-2012, 02:05 PM

Yes, the Cokin P holder rotates (I have one). I don't use the Cokin filters but I have read they do have a magenta cast to them. I use the Hitect GNDs - in my experience there isn't a cast with normal shutter speeds, although once I stacked a 4 stop ND and a GND and did get a color cast - probably about a 1-2 second exposure.

mikeSF · 05-24-2012, 02:52 PM

i use HiTech filters in the Cokin P holder and don't notice a cast, but most brands have at least a slight cast about them.

cali92rs · 05-24-2012, 03:21 PM

Sounds good, thanks for the feedback

tibbitts · 05-26-2012, 07:50 PM

When I bought my Cokin filters, they were called "gray" and not split ND specifically (not sure what they're called now.) I have P120 and P121. They aren't perfectly neutral, but if anything I wouldn't say the color cast was magenta, more greenish maybe. I didn't find the color to be a problem on Kodachrome or Velvia or E100 EC - batch/processing variations were a much bigger problem, even with pro films. The filter holders absolutely do rotate, although the torque required to rotate usually exceeds that required to unscrew the filter adapter. Usually I just unscrew the filter adapter to rotate it (it has at least a couple of full threads, so it doesn't fall off if you're careful.)

Paul

Lloydy · 05-27-2012, 02:34 PM

Originally posted by anthers

Yes, the Cokin P holder rotates (I have one). I don't use the Cokin filters but I have read they do have a magenta cast to them. I use the Hitect GNDs - in my experience there isn't a cast with normal shutter speeds, although once I stacked a 4 stop ND and a GND and did get a color cast - probably about a 1-2 second exposure.

This is the accepted way of doing it I think, the Cokin holders and screw on rings are just fine. Some of their filters aren't bad either. But most people seem to use HiTech for the gradual ND filters, I certainly do and I'm very pleased with them. I was given a Cokin grad' and I've thrown it in the bin, it was that bad, there was nothing gradual about it at all.

05-24-2012, 10:37 AM	#1
cali92rs Veteran Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 3,354	Cokin P Series Holder I was looking at getting into the Cokin P series. My question is can the holder be rotated so that the graduation isnt horizontal but tilted or vertical? Thanks in advance

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05-24-2012, 11:40 AM	#2
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	Cokin A does. It has an adapter that threads onto the lens filter rings and the Cokin holder attaches to and rotates around the adapter. I think the P is the same but I don't have one so can't be 100% sure.

05-24-2012, 12:27 PM	#3
cali92rs Veteran Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 3,354 Original Poster	OK, thanks, that makes sense. Have you experienced any problems with color casts? I am going to be using these filters with film, so if they do indeed have color casts, I may have to look at the more expensive options

05-24-2012, 12:41 PM	#4
mikeSF Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: East Bay Area, CA Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,620	P does absolutely [rotate] Last edited by mikeSF; 05-24-2012 at 02:50 PM.

05-24-2012, 01:18 PM	#5
cali92rs Veteran Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 3,354 Original Poster	Originally posted by mikeSF P does absolutely P does meaning it rotates, or has a color cast? Sorry

05-24-2012, 01:44 PM	#6
excanonfd Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 1,421	All square/rectangular filter holder rotates around the lens adapter ring, some are stiffer than others but they are designed to be rotated to suit the shooter's composition.

05-24-2012, 02:05 PM	#7
anthers Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: California Photos: Albums Posts: 125	Yes, the Cokin P holder rotates (I have one). I don't use the Cokin filters but I have read they do have a magenta cast to them. I use the Hitect GNDs - in my experience there isn't a cast with normal shutter speeds, although once I stacked a 4 stop ND and a GND and did get a color cast - probably about a 1-2 second exposure.

05-24-2012, 02:52 PM	#8
mikeSF Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: East Bay Area, CA Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,620	i use HiTech filters in the Cokin P holder and don't notice a cast, but most brands have at least a slight cast about them.

05-24-2012, 03:21 PM	#9
cali92rs Veteran Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 3,354 Original Poster	Sounds good, thanks for the feedback

05-26-2012, 07:50 PM	#10
tibbitts Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Oklahoma USA Posts: 2,193	When I bought my Cokin filters, they were called "gray" and not split ND specifically (not sure what they're called now.) I have P120 and P121. They aren't perfectly neutral, but if anything I wouldn't say the color cast was magenta, more greenish maybe. I didn't find the color to be a problem on Kodachrome or Velvia or E100 EC - batch/processing variations were a much bigger problem, even with pro films. The filter holders absolutely do rotate, although the torque required to rotate usually exceeds that required to unscrew the filter adapter. Usually I just unscrew the filter adapter to rotate it (it has at least a couple of full threads, so it doesn't fall off if you're careful.) Paul

05-27-2012, 02:34 PM	#11
Lloydy Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Shropshire, UK Posts: 1,114	Originally posted by anthers Yes, the Cokin P holder rotates (I have one). I don't use the Cokin filters but I have read they do have a magenta cast to them. I use the Hitect GNDs - in my experience there isn't a cast with normal shutter speeds, although once I stacked a 4 stop ND and a GND and did get a color cast - probably about a 1-2 second exposure. This is the accepted way of doing it I think, the Cokin holders and screw on rings are just fine. Some of their filters aren't bad either. But most people seem to use HiTech for the gradual ND filters, I certainly do and I'm very pleased with them. I was given a Cokin grad' and I've thrown it in the bin, it was that bad, there was nothing gradual about it at all.