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07-03-2012, 08:16 PM   #1
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Ultra Optics/Ultra Power - A Precision Company - Sakar International

I bought a new K-5 kit on Tuesday and wanted the extra basics to go with it. I ordered over the phone and I'll admit that I'm new to the DSLR world. I read review after review about the cameras, but know next to nothing about brands/etc on filters, batteries, and all the rest.

When I told the rep I wanted a spare battery, he asked about capacity. I didn't know that Pentax did or didn't offer batteries with different capacities. I wanted this camera for the holiday and probably rushed through the purchase of the accessories. I asked for filters and said I didn't want junk. I saw lots of filters on Amazon around $10-$20 for 3 piece filter kits.

What showed up are Chinese-made products that seem to have 3 different labels, next to no website information, and nothing around the web that seems to describe the quality (or lack thereof).

Ultra Power - A Precision Company - 2000 mAh battery


Ultra Optics - A Precision Company - 3 Piece Filter Kit - High Resolution & High Definition Multi-Coated 100 Series


Both have Sakar International of Edison, NJ contact info on the box.



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generic batteries, i generally find to be alright. As for generic filters, they're usually crap.
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I've had generally poor experience with most generic lithium-ion batteries. For the K-5 (D-Li90), most are rated at about 1800 mAh (Pentax is 1860), but their ratings have little relation to their actual storage capacity. Most generics seem to effectively have less than half the capacity of genuine Pentax batteries. Most notable exception in my experience are Lenmar batteries, which costs about 1/2 to 2/3 of comparable Pentax. Of course, you can get no-name batteries for as little as 1/5 the cost of Pentax, so they might serve as emergency backups.
I have also heard of more problems with DOA generic batteries, and with rapidly declining capacities with use, although I haven't personally experienced that. Capacity loss over time and with use is normal for all rechargeable batteries, perhaps a 10% loss per 100 charges.
Also, remember that lithium batteries like to be used. They don't suffer from memory effects, so you don't have to periodically use to exhaustion to maintain full capacity. However, they do self-discharge over time, and can be ruined by lack of use. I try to rotate mine so that each is at least partially drained every month or two.
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I'm just a bit irritated that I specifically asked if there was just an OEM battery I could buy and he said they came in I think 4 ratings. Then this Chinese generic no-name shows up. Same with the filters. By no means am I an expert in much of anything from China, but I have a hard time believing the quality of these filters are anywhere near the price they're charging for them. I'm going to look into a return and fight the restocking fee, especially on the battery since thy did not sell me the OWM battery I requested.

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QuoteOriginally posted by adpo Quote
generic batteries, i generally find to be alright. As for generic filters, they're usually crap.
I agree; particularly about the filters. If you are going to buy cheap filters you can save even more money and get the same effect by smearing a little Vaseline on your lens.
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I agree; particularly about the filters. If you are going to buy cheap filters you can save even more money and get the same effect by smearing a little Vaseline on your lens.
That's my biggest complaint - they were not priced cheap. This isn't where I bought them, and I didn't pay that much, but these were definitely not priced like the $20 for a 3 piece set of Zeikos.

http://www.amazon.com/Precision-Piece-Filter-Kit-Resolution/dp/B004NM3VO8/re...optics+filters
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if you can't get a full refund, speak to your credit card company.
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At least Sakar is a company that is not completely unknown. Here is a review of the CPL, please read to the end! Lens Porn!: Sakar Circular Polarizer Filter CPL (£6.50 for 3 on eBay)
The pricing at Amazon is obscene. For that amount, you could get a set of the best B+W or Heliopan filters. I would think, the 20 USD range, you know from other Chinese filters would be a better match.

For the battery: I use several sets of third party batteries, ofcourse all made in China, and they all work perfectly, without any noticeable difference from the Pentax ones. Just look for modells, that sport a believable max. capacity and stay away from brands, that make a lot of fuzz about having two or three times the capacity of the Pentax batteries, because that quite simply is a lie and I would not buy from an openly lying company.

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Another source of frustration on these filters is the price I paid is way more than the $8-$25 for the Sakar kits on Amazon. These are cheap (price) filters that can be had other places but are rebranded with the price jacked up 10-12 times. Again, I didn't pay the $350, but I paid way more than I should have had the brand been readily available or disclosed at the time of sale.

The batteries were sold as 2, 4, 6, or 8 hour batteries based on mAh.
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Here's the link to the website of the company for the filters and battery: Precision Ultra
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I don't even see any of their products at B&H, which says something..
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I don't even see any of their products at B&H, which says something..
Right, if they're so awesome and high quality, why isn't anyone else selling or using them? Or at least talking about them?
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