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08-29-2015, 12:07 PM - 4 Likes   #1
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Pentax DA* 16-50 and 50-135 hood alternative

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I know for many years and threads it has been discussed how frustrating it is with some hoods to replace at $50 a piece. I have a DA*16-50 and DA* 50-135 and neither of them had hoods when I purchased. I could never justify the cost of the hoods so I searched. I'm not a huge fan of spending 8 bucks on a rubber three stage hood on a star lens. And I get it - your best equipment should bring top dollar for your accessories, makes sense. I tried a screw on "bayonet" hood for my 16-50 and it vignetted not because of the length of the hood itself, but because the screw on mount (to make the new bayonet) went too far out and was shown on the edges of the lens in pictures.

So, I just did simple math and looked at youtube videos on Canon lenses to see what their bayonet's looked like compared to Pentax. The videos didn't get me there, but I figured I would spend 5 bucks on a Canon 17-55 (EW-83J) - 77MM hood from a brand called MOVO on Amazon. So shipped (2 day) cost me $5.30. It came, and low and behold, the bayonet mounting is incredibly similar between the two, and quite frankly, the hood is pretty darn similar to Pentax's aside from the slot that allows CPL adjustment.

The mounting was a little tight, but the hood (MOVO EW-83J) is actually almost as good as the stock Pentax hood as far as quality.

Amazon.com : Movo Photo EW-83J Lens Hood for Canon EF 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM Lens with 2X Spirit Level & Microfiber Lens Cloth : Camera Lens Hoods : Camera & Photo

The DA 50-135 was a little harder because it is a "longer" hood for a bayonet mount at 67MM. The only thing I could find that was close was the Canon 70-200 F4 67MM. It is a full frame lens and the APSC match is really in that 50-135 range, so I figured if I had to shave anything it would be just a tiny bit. It came, and this one mounts pretty easily (there is just a little play, but it is locked and won't fall off). No vignetting at all, and I bet that it is really close to the same length as the stock Pentax 50-135 hood. Only downfall of this one - it is a cone, not a flower petal hood. There is a company that sells a white one (because the 70-200 F/4L Canon is white and black) that is a flower shaped, but I didn't want white! So I chose this one (MOVO ET-74) and it is pretty good. I immediately saw a big difference with focusing when the hood was on.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GI2JIV6?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00

So for less than $11 I got "matching" hoods for my DA* that fit well and can be reversed like original bayonets. And they are pretty good quality (The ET 74 is solid). So there you go, solved the mystery for years that people have been searching for.

Truth be told - I owed it to this forum, because I've learned so much from many of you. Just paying it forward.

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08-29-2015, 12:56 PM   #2
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Thanks! On the Wanted thread, after reading "ET-74", I hastily ordered the OEM Canon ET-74 (9 bucks). Looks like I could have saved a few bucks more. Oh well.. I will throw people off.. "Is that a Canon? " hehehe

I will update after it arrives!
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Great finds! Thanks for the heads up!

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Thanks, I needed a hood for the 16-50 but not enough to pay for an OEM one.

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good to hear, good to know!
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A bit off topic,
But the other day I saw a canoneer with a petal hood on 90-degrees off,
The long petals were on the sides and the short petals to the top and bottom
This was pretty obviously wrong though, if you had any idea of what the hood does for you.
At least he did not have it reversed over the lens.
Not sure how you do that, I know our Pentax hoods would be incredibly hard to mount that way.
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Not necessarily... Hoods are made for the widest end of the zoom, so you're not going to get vignetting at the long end. If he had the long petals at an angle to block where the light was specifically coming from, it was probably doing a better job than it would have if it was on correctly.

I know I've had to use my hand on the side of the 50-135 on occasion to block glare when shooting with the sun low and to one side.

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Do these reverse mount OK as well? I assume so based on your narrative.
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My copy of the EW-83J hood (for 16-50) arrived yesterday. It fits, both normal and reversed, and does not vignette at 16mm so far as I can tell.

It's a really tight fit, though. That might be because my 16-50 isn't in the best shape (it had a dented filter ring when I bought it, which I was able to straighten back out and make usable again), or it might just need to have a little bit sanded off it to fit more cleanly. Not sure. Haven't tried any real photos with it yet.
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Narual - My 16-50 fit pretty tight too. And the dot is like an 1/8 in from lining up from the red Pentax dot. Tell me what you do if you sand it. I just did it a couple times pretty tight and it loosened up a bit.
Not perfect, but pretty darn good for $5 though!
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I thought it had loosened a bit too, then I eased it was tilted and only in 1 or 2 slots.
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QuoteOriginally posted by mee Quote
Thanks! On the Wanted thread, after reading "ET-74", I hastily ordered the OEM Canon ET-74 (9 bucks). Looks like I could have saved a few bucks more. Oh well.. I will throw people off.. "Is that a Canon? " hehehe

I will update after it arrives!

My real deal Canon-made ET-74 arrived today. Fits just as you said it would on the DA* 50-135mm lens albeit it doesn't click into place. It does seem like it isn't going to fall off the camera though unless it gets twisted and WOW it is big. haha

However it DOES vignette at f/2.8 @ 50mm -- I tested the lens with and without the hood. Please see the screenshots.
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I guess I never decided to shoot at some blue construction paper and figure that to that point. I didn't see it in real pictures. Looks like it even comes out a little different in the blue. Mine clicks into place, but has a tiny bit wiggle. Certainly not as tight as the other hood.
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That is the sky.
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