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ftpaddict · 09-14-2008, 11:30 AM

Originally posted by Big I

Hahaha! Why is artifical light for posers? It adds a whole new twist to lighting!

I am hoping you understood the pun.

HawaiianOnline · 09-14-2008, 01:51 PM

Another Bees user here. Have had them for a few years, and they have been reliable.

Classvino · 09-15-2008, 02:27 PM

Originally posted by ftpaddict

I use the "mother nature" brand of lighting gear. Artificial light is for posers.

Pretty good, I must remember that one, but it sounds like subtlety is wasted here...

(or else they just don't like puns

)

**janosh** · 09-17-2008, 02:46 PM

Alien Bee is popular because it was ultra-cheap and was marketed to students. The huge drawback is/was the very dim modeling light (you want at least 250 watts of quartz light in a lamp head, not a 150 watt household bulb). AB's wimpy modeling light by itself explained why most professionals quickly graduated to bettter-designs. Also, AB's flash output info is deceptive..they say to ignore watt-seconds but you really should start your thinking with that number before you buy into AB's claims.

Norman is/was popular (especially in high volume studios) because it's incredibly rugged physically and built to more beefy electrical standards.

Take a look at Strobist for cheap/flexible/portable alternative approaches (eg with Vivitar 285V strobes).

rsi1986 · 09-21-2008, 08:31 PM

I had a set of JTL Strobes a while back. It was a no frills set of mono lights, but they worked great. The price was also nice. 250.00 for 2 strobes, stands, umbrellas, and a very nice carrying bag.

Big I · 09-22-2008, 02:53 PM

Originally posted by ftpaddict

I am hoping you understood the pun.

Oh! Hehe, I'm a little slower

Big I · 09-22-2008, 02:56 PM

Originally posted by janosh

Alien Bee is popular because it was ultra-cheap and was marketed to students. The huge drawback is/was the very dim modeling light (you want at least 250 watts of quartz light in a lamp head, not a 150 watt household bulb). AB's wimpy modeling light by itself explained why most professionals quickly graduated to bettter-designs. Also, AB's flash output info is deceptive..they say to ignore watt-seconds but you really should start your thinking with that number before you buy into AB's claims.

Norman is/was popular (especially in high volume studios) because it's incredibly rugged physically and built to more beefy electrical standards.

Take a look at Strobist for cheap/flexible/portable alternative approaches (eg with Vivitar 285V strobes).

Mmmm, I've only heard good things about AB's, I'm glad to hear your opinion as well. And believe me, I've been a long time reader of strobist

Thanks for commenting, everybody!

offertonhatter · 09-22-2008, 03:50 PM

I have Portaflash as my own lighting kit (from Jessops), but I have used Bowens in a studio, what a system. Love it! Now if I can find the money to have my own Bowens gear

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09-14-2008, 11:30 AM	#16
ftpaddict Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Yurp Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,666	Originally posted by Big I Hahaha! Why is artifical light for posers? It adds a whole new twist to lighting! I am hoping you understood the pun.

09-14-2008, 01:51 PM	#17
HawaiianOnline Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Hawaii Posts: 613	Another Bees user here. Have had them for a few years, and they have been reliable.

09-15-2008, 02:27 PM	#18
Classvino Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 132	Originally posted by ftpaddict I use the "mother nature" brand of lighting gear. Artificial light is for posers. Pretty good, I must remember that one, but it sounds like subtlety is wasted here... (or else they just don't like puns )

09-17-2008, 02:46 PM	#19
janosh Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 243	Alien Bee is popular because it was ultra-cheap and was marketed to students. The huge drawback is/was the very dim modeling light (you want at least 250 watts of quartz light in a lamp head, not a 150 watt household bulb). AB's wimpy modeling light by itself explained why most professionals quickly graduated to bettter-designs. Also, AB's flash output info is deceptive..they say to ignore watt-seconds but you really should start your thinking with that number before you buy into AB's claims. Norman is/was popular (especially in high volume studios) because it's incredibly rugged physically and built to more beefy electrical standards. Take a look at Strobist for cheap/flexible/portable alternative approaches (eg with Vivitar 285V strobes).

09-21-2008, 08:31 PM	#20
rsi1986 Inactive Account Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 12	I had a set of JTL Strobes a while back. It was a no frills set of mono lights, but they worked great. The price was also nice. 250.00 for 2 strobes, stands, umbrellas, and a very nice carrying bag.

09-22-2008, 02:53 PM	#21
Big I Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Central Kansas Posts: 112 Original Poster	Originally posted by ftpaddict I am hoping you understood the pun. Oh! Hehe, I'm a little slower

09-22-2008, 02:56 PM	#22
Big I Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Central Kansas Posts: 112 Original Poster	Originally posted by janosh Alien Bee is popular because it was ultra-cheap and was marketed to students. The huge drawback is/was the very dim modeling light (you want at least 250 watts of quartz light in a lamp head, not a 150 watt household bulb). AB's wimpy modeling light by itself explained why most professionals quickly graduated to bettter-designs. Also, AB's flash output info is deceptive..they say to ignore watt-seconds but you really should start your thinking with that number before you buy into AB's claims. Norman is/was popular (especially in high volume studios) because it's incredibly rugged physically and built to more beefy electrical standards. Take a look at Strobist for cheap/flexible/portable alternative approaches (eg with Vivitar 285V strobes). Mmmm, I've only heard good things about AB's, I'm glad to hear your opinion as well. And believe me, I've been a long time reader of strobist Thanks for commenting, everybody!

09-22-2008, 03:50 PM	#23
offertonhatter Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: North West UK Posts: 390	I have Portaflash as my own lighting kit (from Jessops), but I have used Bowens in a studio, what a system. Love it! Now if I can find the money to have my own Bowens gear

SO many Professional Lighting brands!

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