Strap safety

SOldBear · 02-06-2018, 03:55 PM

Originally posted by csa

That is exactly why I decided to add this fix to my outfit. Where I ran the leather thru the top of the connector, I feel is the strongest part of the connector itself.

Another weak point is where the eyelet is attached to the camera body. The leather piece in your set up does not address this issue.

**aslyfox** · 02-06-2018, 03:56 PM

Originally posted by csa

Allen, I believe it could, but since it attaches to the strap, if there's a failure of the strap somewhere, it wouldn't help.

if the utility sling ( the portion across the body ] fails yes

if the quick connect holding camera body to the sling is the failure point however, not the sling itself then it would be the fail safe system

you understand what I am trying to describe??

the sling is around your chest, the camera is connected to the sling via the quick connect attached at the upper connection point, the tripod foot is connected separately to the sling via another separate quick connect

---------- Post added 02-06-18 at 16:56 ----------

Originally posted by SOldBear

Another weak point is where the eyelet is attached to the camera body. The leather piece in your set up does not address this issue.

there may be no perfect solution

SOldBear · 02-06-2018, 04:03 PM

Originally posted by Aslyfox

there may be no perfect solution

See the photo in my post above with "two point" attachment: the eyelet, and the tripod plate.

If one fails, there is still the other. Not perfect, but better then any "one point" attachment.

**Kerrowdown** · 02-06-2018, 04:06 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by BigMackCam

There's only so much weight a strap is designed to take

I couldn't agree more...

**aslyfox** · 02-06-2018, 04:11 PM

Originally posted by SOldBear

See the photo in my post above with "two point" attachment: the eyelet, and the tripod plate.

If one fails, there is still the other. Not perfect, but better then any "one point" attachment.

true

multiple back ups can be helpful

as I said, I have the Optech USA utility sling

Utility Strap?-Sling & Utility Strap?-Sling XL Quick Adjust - Neoprene Quick Release Camera Shoulder Strap | OP/TECH USA

attached to the right upper attachment point along with the joby hand strap with ultra plate

Camera Hand Strap | Ultra Fit Hand Strap With Ultra Plate

attached to the same point and the tripod screw plus the

Joby camera tether

Camera Safety tether for backup protection

attached to the other upper attachment point and the D ring free to hook onto the utility sling

now I am thinking about how to add a support for when I use long lenses attaching at the tripod foot

I think your set up is a viable set up as well

**csa** · 02-06-2018, 04:47 PM

Originally posted by SOldBear

Another weak point is where the eyelet is attached to the camera body. The leather piece in your set up does not address this issue.

We cannot possibly safeguard everything. I've never heard of the eyelet failing, I suppose it could, but I don't know how we can safeguard against that!

Of course, I could also take a fall, and destroy the camera & lens; can't really do anything about that either.

I just thought I'd share this idea with those that are interested.

**csa** · 02-06-2018, 04:49 PM

Originally posted by Aslyfox

if the quick connect holding camera body to the sling is the failure point however, not the sling itself then it would be the fail safe system

I'm not using the sling, however.

**aslyfox** · 02-06-2018, 04:54 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by csa

. . . I just thought I'd share this idea with those that are interested.

I think your sharing is a great idea

SOldBear · 02-06-2018, 04:55 PM

Originally posted by csa

I've never heard of the eyelet failing....

Happened to my Fujica years ago; the camera fell 4 ft onto concrete.

I vowed never allowing that to happen again....

**csa** · 02-06-2018, 05:00 PM

So, what is your solution? I would have to run additional straps from a new tripod plate (as mine only has an access place on one side), up to each side of the strap. By this time, with all the additional straps, it would be a mess trying to get it on/off the tripod.

**csa** · 02-06-2018, 05:01 PM

Originally posted by Aslyfox

I think your sharing is a great idea

Thanks Allen! We can't possibly be prepared for every catastrophe that might happen, but try to prevent what we can.

victormeldrew · 02-06-2018, 06:01 PM

Originally posted by csa

We can't possibly be prepared for every catastrophe that might happen

I disagree. First defence: hold tight. Second defence: strap round neck. Third and final defence: Good insurance.

C_Jones · 02-06-2018, 06:02 PM

I make my own straps with black 1/2 inch polyester utility strap (same width as original Pentax strap). That way I can have the strap length I need. I have never had a strength problem.

**aslyfox** · 02-06-2018, 06:04 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by csa

. . . We can't possibly be prepared for every catastrophe that might happen, but try to prevent what we can.

Originally posted by victormeldrew

I disagree. First defence: hold tight. Second defence: strap round neck. Third and final defence: Good insurance.

everyone is entitled to their own opinion

I am a firm believer in

Murphy's Law:

Any thing that can go wrong will go wrong

and

Finnegan's corollary to Murphy's Law

Murphy was an optimist

YMMV

( nothing wrong with good insurance )

**BigMackCam** · 02-06-2018, 06:07 PM

Originally posted by victormeldrew

I disagree. First defence: hold tight. Second defence: strap round neck. Third and final defence: Good insurance.

Even insurance policies have limitations, and don't always pay out. But I agree that it's another excellent thing to have where practical and relevant. In the UK, I have specific cover through Aaduki, on top of my home insurance. Covers most situations... but not everything...

02-06-2018, 04:03 PM	#18
SOldBear Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Alameda, CA Posts: 3,206	Originally posted by Aslyfox there may be no perfect solution See the photo in my post above with "two point" attachment: the eyelet, and the tripod plate. If one fails, there is still the other. Not perfect, but better then any "one point" attachment. Last edited by SOldBear; 02-06-2018 at 04:22 PM.

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02-06-2018, 03:55 PM	#16
SOldBear Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Alameda, CA Posts: 3,206	Originally posted by csa That is exactly why I decided to add this fix to my outfit. Where I ran the leather thru the top of the connector, I feel is the strongest part of the connector itself. Another weak point is where the eyelet is attached to the camera body. The leather piece in your set up does not address this issue.

02-06-2018, 03:56 PM	#17
aslyfox Seeker of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Topeka, Kansas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 24,582	Originally posted by csa Allen, I believe it could, but since it attaches to the strap, if there's a failure of the strap somewhere, it wouldn't help. if the utility sling ( the portion across the body ] fails yes if the quick connect holding camera body to the sling is the failure point however, not the sling itself then it would be the fail safe system you understand what I am trying to describe?? the sling is around your chest, the camera is connected to the sling via the quick connect attached at the upper connection point, the tripod foot is connected separately to the sling via another separate quick connect ---------- Post added 02-06-18 at 16:56 ---------- Originally posted by SOldBear Another weak point is where the eyelet is attached to the camera body. The leather piece in your set up does not address this issue. there may be no perfect solution

02-06-2018, 04:06 PM - 2 Likes	#19
Kerrowdown PEG Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Highlands of Scotland... "Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand" - William Blake Photos: Gallery Posts: 57,835	Originally posted by BigMackCam There's only so much weight a strap is designed to take I couldn't agree more...

02-06-2018, 04:11 PM	#20
aslyfox Seeker of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Topeka, Kansas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 24,582	Originally posted by SOldBear See the photo in my post above with "two point" attachment: the eyelet, and the tripod plate. If one fails, there is still the other. Not perfect, but better then any "one point" attachment. true multiple back ups can be helpful as I said, I have the Optech USA utility sling Utility Strap?-Sling & Utility Strap?-Sling XL Quick Adjust - Neoprene Quick Release Camera Shoulder Strap \| OP/TECH USA attached to the right upper attachment point along with the joby hand strap with ultra plate Camera Hand Strap \| Ultra Fit Hand Strap With Ultra Plate attached to the same point and the tripod screw plus the Joby camera tether Camera Safety tether for backup protection attached to the other upper attachment point and the D ring free to hook onto the utility sling now I am thinking about how to add a support for when I use long lenses attaching at the tripod foot I think your set up is a viable set up as well

02-06-2018, 04:47 PM	#21
csa Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Montana mountains Posts: 10,133 Original Poster	Originally posted by SOldBear Another weak point is where the eyelet is attached to the camera body. The leather piece in your set up does not address this issue. We cannot possibly safeguard everything. I've never heard of the eyelet failing, I suppose it could, but I don't know how we can safeguard against that! Of course, I could also take a fall, and destroy the camera & lens; can't really do anything about that either. I just thought I'd share this idea with those that are interested.

02-06-2018, 04:49 PM	#22
csa Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Montana mountains Posts: 10,133 Original Poster	Originally posted by Aslyfox if the quick connect holding camera body to the sling is the failure point however, not the sling itself then it would be the fail safe system I'm not using the sling, however.

02-06-2018, 04:54 PM - 1 Like	#23
aslyfox Seeker of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Topeka, Kansas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 24,582	Originally posted by csa . . . I just thought I'd share this idea with those that are interested. I think your sharing is a great idea

02-06-2018, 04:55 PM	#24
SOldBear Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Alameda, CA Posts: 3,206	Originally posted by csa I've never heard of the eyelet failing.... Happened to my Fujica years ago; the camera fell 4 ft onto concrete. I vowed never allowing that to happen again....

02-06-2018, 05:00 PM	#25
csa Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Montana mountains Posts: 10,133 Original Poster	So, what is your solution? I would have to run additional straps from a new tripod plate (as mine only has an access place on one side), up to each side of the strap. By this time, with all the additional straps, it would be a mess trying to get it on/off the tripod.

02-06-2018, 05:01 PM	#26
csa Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Montana mountains Posts: 10,133 Original Poster	Originally posted by Aslyfox I think your sharing is a great idea Thanks Allen! We can't possibly be prepared for every catastrophe that might happen, but try to prevent what we can.

02-06-2018, 06:01 PM	#27
victormeldrew Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: South West UK Photos: Albums Posts: 1,493	Originally posted by csa We can't possibly be prepared for every catastrophe that might happen I disagree. First defence: hold tight. Second defence: strap round neck. Third and final defence: Good insurance.

02-06-2018, 06:02 PM	#28
C_Jones Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: NY Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,074	I make my own straps with black 1/2 inch polyester utility strap (same width as original Pentax strap). That way I can have the strap length I need. I have never had a strength problem.

02-06-2018, 06:04 PM - 1 Like	#29
aslyfox Seeker of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Topeka, Kansas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 24,582	Originally posted by csa . . . We can't possibly be prepared for every catastrophe that might happen, but try to prevent what we can. Originally posted by victormeldrew I disagree. First defence: hold tight. Second defence: strap round neck. Third and final defence: Good insurance. everyone is entitled to their own opinion I am a firm believer in Murphy's Law: Any thing that can go wrong will go wrong and Finnegan's corollary to Murphy's Law Murphy was an optimist YMMV ( nothing wrong with good insurance )

02-06-2018, 06:07 PM	#30
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,681	Originally posted by victormeldrew I disagree. First defence: hold tight. Second defence: strap round neck. Third and final defence: Good insurance. Even insurance policies have limitations, and don't always pay out. But I agree that it's another excellent thing to have where practical and relevant. In the UK, I have specific cover through Aaduki, on top of my home insurance. Covers most situations... but not everything...