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08-08-2018, 03:29 PM   #1
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Running Bag?

I'm an ex-Personal Trainer, I still keep myself active with body weight and weight resistance exercises/movements, but now I wish to start running. I live right next to a National Park that offers stunning views and photographic opportunities, I want to see if I can find some kind of backpack that is suitable to pack something like a K-1+Joby Tripod so that when I reach a suitable destination point I can pause and snap a sunrise/sunset etc.

I'm wondering however how the high impact nature of running would affect the K-1 and its internal components, whether it could take that constant bouncing for 1hr periods etc.

I currently own the Low Pro Sling 100 or something, I don't think it's quite gonna cut it, but I may test it out. I'm thinking a full on backpack with waist/lower back anchor component will be needed to stop the bag jumping up and down etc.
I'll need to bag to contain a few things as well, towel to wipe/dry off sweat (to operate the gear, filters and lenses properly), water, sunscreen etc.

So... do specialised camera bags exist for those wanting to run and snap?

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Having recently hiked with my camera gear, I'd start looking at combinations of a neoprene cover or a small DSLR holster and an accent pack or some other light, supportive pack. You could get very durable gear from ALPS Brands in the sub-2lb range which would hold a camera and a lens or two, and allow for lashing a tripod on firmly and securely, on the cheap end. Higher end brands are going to be Osprey/Gregory/Deuter, with Granite Gear in the middle. Or maybe Badlands Gear. Either of those last two I own and know they've communicated with me a sterling warranty/repair policy, which I've yet to need, after half a dozen years of pretty hard use. Grab some cheap neoprene lens sleeves from Amazon and you'll be all set. Look for a pack with a stretch side pocket and a compression/lashing strap above it. One or two legs of the tripod in the pocket, and lashes, and off you go.
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I'm happy biking with a camera backpack, but if I were to run with my K-1 and my Joby tripod I would definitely try to use my old Tamrac Velocity 5 waist pack, perhaps with the shoulder strap as well. I do a lot of running and the most stable location on most runners is the lower back. I have run with other objects in a smaller waist pack and sometimes the adjustable waist straps come lose as I run and that is one potential problem. However, for just the K-1 and the small tripod I would not want a backpack unless the waist pack did not work out. I would also only use my D FA 28-105 in the waist pack as bigger lenses would probably require a backpack for sure. If you do go the backpack route, look for the smallest, most streamlined backpack you can find. You want all the weight as close and as tight to your body as possible. Good luck!
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I've done some running and cross country skiing with my Lowepro Slingshot 100 AW. I stays quite stable and has room for camera, lens, and a few accessories. They don't seem to make the 100 anymore. I only see a 150.

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If you could find them (they stopped making bags earlier this year). Clik elite had very good bags that you could use for running.
The probody sport sounds right for you. The cloudscape is also very nice, but might be too small for the K-1. Then the Obscura would be better, but I think that one will be too big for running.
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I have done technical trail runs with crop, full fame and even medium format bodies slung over my shoulder. Even with a heavy lens mounted (and I have run with the DFA*70-200 on the K-3), the shifting weight and the ability to control it with a hand at waist height makes it relatively easy.

I would never run with a backpack laden with camera gear, as the movement is uncontrolled. It will smack you around and make the experience miserable.

If I wanted a full kit for a trail run, it would be the Q7 with 03, 08, 01 and 06. That will fit on a hydration belt in two little pods and won't shake around at all.

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I have done some mountain trail running with my K-5 inside an REI brand hydration pack. Look for a hydration pack that is designed for trail running, and then pick the smallest model that can handle your camera. (Though you are probably looking at the largest version of most trail running packs to have the volume you need.) If you find an Osprey that fits your size requirements, you cannot go wrong with it.


I do not think the bouncing is going to have any harmful effects on the camera. But make sure the pack has cinch straps and a comfortable wait belt so the pack itself does not bounce on your back, and the load does not bounce within the pack.
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Thanks everyone for their 2 cents and suggestions. I'm hearing a lot of 'non camera' bag suggestions, waist packs (whatever they are), basically put the camera in something else and then use a hydration pack or waist pack?

Hydration packs I've seen are like backpacks but just seem to hold water, no actual real storage :/

EDIT: Hold that thought, indeed some seem to have storage, the page I was looking at earlier had only 4 to show, this evening there's about 10 of them, and the rear section significantly larger (intended for storage of some kind and not just fluid I bet).


QuoteOriginally posted by rangercarp Quote
I have done some mountain trail running with my K-5 inside an REI brand hydration pack. Look for a hydration pack that is designed for trail running, and then pick the smallest model that can handle your camera. (Though you are probably looking at the largest version of most trail running packs to have the volume you need.) If you find an Osprey that fits your size requirements, you cannot go wrong with it.


I do not think the bouncing is going to have any harmful effects on the camera. But make sure the pack has cinch straps and a comfortable wait belt so the pack itself does not bounce on your back, and the load does not bounce within the pack.
Yeah that's my concern, that and straps becoming loose constantly and needing re tightened.

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I've done some running and cross country skiing with my Lowepro Slingshot 100 AW. I stays quite stable and has room for camera, lens, and a few accessories. They don't seem to make the 100 anymore. I only see a 150.
I actually have that Lowepro Slingshot 100 AW, I have never ran with it tho, only ever for events and bush walking. I haven't even used that other anchored strap that much but today I clicked it on and yeah it's pretty solid, keeps things close and tight to the body, didn't feel as tho things were gonna 'jiggle' around. I shall definitely trial that out before forking out funds for something else that's prolly quite similar!

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SO this is a waist pack then?

Osprey Talon 6 Hydration Waistpack - Men's | REI Co-op



Have to say I don't think I ever seen one of them before, so they are better than this kinda thing?

CamelBak Rogue 2.5 L Hydration Pack



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QuoteOriginally posted by BruceBanner Quote
Yeah that's my concern, that and straps becoming loose constantly and needing re tightened.
If you buy a good pack the straps should not loosen easily on their own. You may need to occasionally tighten them, but I don't think you will find yourself doing it enough to think about it.


The larger hydration packs do have storage. When doing long trail runs unsupported, you need to be able to carry plenty of water, a warming layer, rain shell, food, extra socks...
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QuoteOriginally posted by BruceBanner Quote
Yeah that's my concern, that and straps becoming loose constantly and needing re tightened.
If you buy a good pack the straps should not loosen easily on their own. You may need to occasionally tighten them, but I don't think you will find yourself doing it enough to think about it.


The larger hydration packs do have storage. When doing long trail runs unsupported, you need to be able to carry plenty of water, a warming layer, rain shell, food, extra socks...
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QuoteOriginally posted by BruceBanner Quote
SO this is a waist pack then?

Osprey Talon 6 Hydration Waistpack - Men's | REI Co-op
That is actually somewhat like the camera waist pack I have. I think my main compartment is definitely bigger, but the overall design is similar. The wide areas between the storage and the belt help stabilize the pack on your body. But you should definitely try what you have first in case that is satisfactory.
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QuoteOriginally posted by BruceBanner Quote
I actually have that Lowepro Slingshot 100 AW, I have never ran with it tho, only ever for events and bush walking. I haven't even used that other anchored strap that much but today I clicked it on and yeah it's pretty solid, keeps things close and tight to the body, didn't feel as tho things were gonna 'jiggle' around. I shall definitely trial that out before forking out funds for something else that's prolly quite similar!
Yes, tighten that strap and it moves very little. I've even cross country skied with a small tripod mounted through the two outside loops. Works great! Also has a built-in all weather cover.
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I recently came across this
that might be helpful; both the video and comments.
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QuoteOriginally posted by BruceBanner Quote
I want to see if I can find some kind of backpack that is suitable to pack something like a K-1+Joby Tripod
My first thought would be to look at Mindshift Gear's ultralight backpacks, they would probably be the best choice for comfort.

QuoteOriginally posted by BruceBanner Quote
I'm wondering however how the high impact nature of running would affect the K-1 and its internal components, whether it could take that constant bouncing for 1hr periods etc.
Well padded, I wouldn't worry.

QuoteOriginally posted by rogerstg Quote
I recently came across this
I did a review of this bag here on pentaxforums, it would be a good choice because of the cinch feature in particular. Not as light as Mindshift's bags however. Their rotation bags are not as light but the separate camera compartment would actually be a useful feature since you're worried about the camera bouncing. Since it's separate from the main backpack it's better protected.

Other choices scale up pretty fast in price, but you can look at fstop's hiking bags.

I would definitely avoid anything that's a sling, and waist bags (fanny packs) should be avoided as the weight distribution won't be as good.

Another option is to get a regular running backpack and use inserts.
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QuoteOriginally posted by BruceBanner Quote
I want to see if I can find some kind of backpack that is suitable to pack something like a K-1+Joby Tripod
My first thought would be to look at Mindshift Gear's ultralight backpacks, they would probably be the best choice for comfort.

QuoteOriginally posted by BruceBanner Quote
I'm wondering however how the high impact nature of running would affect the K-1 and its internal components, whether it could take that constant bouncing for 1hr periods etc.
Well padded, I wouldn't worry.

QuoteOriginally posted by rogerstg Quote
I recently came across this
I did a review of this bag here on pentaxforums, it would be a good choice because of the cinch feature in particular. Not as light as Mindshift's bags however. Their rotation bags are not as light but the separate camera compartment would actually be a useful feature since you're worried about the camera bouncing. Since it's separate from the main backpack it's better protected.

Other choices scale up pretty fast in price, but you can look at fstop's hiking bags.

I would definitely avoid anything that's a sling, and waist bags (fanny packs) should be avoided as the weight distribution won't be as good.

Another option is to get a regular running backpack and use inserts.
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