Originally posted by stevebrot You can have inexpensive
You can have convenient
You can have durable
Choose two...note that high price is not an indication of either durability or convenience.
QR clamps are one of the least costly elements of camera support. One only needs one per tripod head. Compare that to plates which are usually one per body and one per each of the longer/heavier lenses. Arca-Swiss plate are incredibly cost effective and most are cross-compatible between clamp brands. They are virtually universal.*
I suspect your L-plate was not inexpensive. Why scrimp on the clamp that allows for professional convenience and durability.
Steve
(...am personally not fond of the Manfrotto or Slik QR systems despite owning products from both companies...)
* I say virtually because I have a plate designed for small cameras that is cut funny. It works with a clamp from the same maker, but not with other makes. I keep it because it is the only plate I could find that works with my Bessa R3M.
My L Plate was a cheap one, only $15 or so, a universal Arca Swiss one as you say, and I have only invested in one tripod with a arca swiss ball head. I'm not in too deep with that system.
But I use quite a few ballhead brands, and each has a use and each has it's pluses and minuses. I'm prolly not your average user so I'll attempt to explain where I'm currently at with all this;
First thing to understand is that I actually use ball heads for my flashes as well as camera. So the rational of only needing one ballhead at a time isn't actually where I come from. I currently have one SLIK ballhead mounted to my custom flash bracket that attaches to my camera. A second SLIK ballhead I use on a tripod. I also have a SLIK QR plate for the camera and flash (better than hotshoe). The SLIK ballheads I find more than adequate to grip tight the weight of the flash or camera, once tightened it doesn't waiver. It's not the best however, the SLIK ballhead plates slide about too much, no matter how hard I tighten them with a dime.
I have a Joby gorilla pod, it's the Hyper SLR Zoom one (discontinued) and I find it perfect for monopodding, and it also works quite well with holding flashes in place. The QR plate generally is far better than the SLIK ones for staying put and not loosening over time, and the actually docking of camera in and out (or flash) is the best and fastest I've come across (brilliant for quick monopodding!), however as a ballhead for the K-1 for use on a tripod (or even lighter camera) it's not that tight, once you tighten it dips down a tad. If you want things to line up correctly you kinda have to tighten with things pointing up and how
not you actually want it, then once tightened it dips down to a place where is more like what you're after... yeah not ideal.
A couple months ago I bought the new 3k Joby head, it was fine for a few weeks, then started oozing oil and finally something gave inside and it just doesn't hold whatever is mounted properly, no matter how hard you tighten it, you could pan it a good 1-2mm in each direction at full tightness, so yeah something went wrong with that one. A real shame, apparently it's a 'thing' with the 3K heads. I really could of seen myself amass more of them and try and get everything across to that system as I really enjoyed the fluid docking experience.
So now I have 2x SLIK, 1x Arca, and one 1x Joby ballheads (with QR plates to boot). I think I will be giving up on the Joby head, and moving onto something else. I'd stick with the SLIK heads as they are cheap and stiff, but sometimes too stuff, it can be really quite an effort to untighten the lever to release the QR plates or even the ballhead itself sometimes, it feels more 'digital' in it's tension (either loose or tight) and not as 'analog' as the arca head (or Joby) that I have, whereby you can apply a certain amount of pressure to the ball to get a good middle ground tight place (which is important for monopodding, you don't want too tight, or too loose).
So what's missing with all this set up is fluidity in whatever I want to attach. I want to be able to leave the house ideally with one brand of plate and one brand of ball head, so that I don't have to overthink things, get into the field and realise my flash has a joby QR plate attached and I only have SLIK ballheads.
The other thing missing is not a great portrait tripod experience due to loosing the L bracket experience (tho I have enjoyed the more minimal camera experience of not having an L Bracket always attached.
I know I am not a fan of the Arac Swiss knobs, but I know to go over to the ballhead with lever style Arca could be pricey, but then perhaps not if I decide to go over to manfrotto's L Plate, as that would then mean also buying multiple manfrotto ballheads to accompany it...
Originally posted by CarlosU Any Manfrotto head with RC2 quick release works with the Q2 L plate. It solved the problems I had changing from horizontal to vertical when using my 100 macro.
At macro distances, with the camera mounted directly to the head (496RC2 by the way), changing from horizontal to vertical orientation ends with a totally different image, so I have to recompose by moving the whole tripod, really bothersome.
With the Q2 L plate mounted on the camera and carefully adjusted, changing orientation takes just seconds and the center of the image remains the same.
Can you remove the QR plates that come with the Manfrotto L Plate and use another brands QR plates do you think?