Originally posted by ChrisPlatt Domke bags are my favorite too. I own a half dozen of various models and colors.
The Domke bags aren't very snazzy. They are simple and just work.
Due to their simple design they are fast and very easy to work from.
Fair enough
Thanks barondla for the detailed comments. I'll comment on a few below. My intention is NOT to go for or against any brand, but to further the discussion and learn a few things.
Originally posted by barondla 1. Optimal padding. Most bags are over padded. Consumers tend to worry about their equipment more than use it. A Domke bag holds more equipment than similar sized bags. They are much larger inside than people expect. The F3 bag is about 12" h X 10"w X 8" d. I carry a Pentax 6X7 and 2 lenses and accessories in it.
I agree that some bags, mainly older ones, have overkill padding. I do have a Domke insert that I purchased a long while ago so I understand what you mean. The bags are not unique in this, it's been a trend in the last few years to better optimize the thickness of the padding. Think Tank/Mindshift Gear and Peak Design are particularly good at this.
Originally posted by barondla 2. Removable inserts. Bigger Domke bags have removable modular lens inserts. The standard insert has 4 compartments. There are 2 and 3 compartment inserts available to allow customization. The compartments are sealed from each other. Equipment doesn't migrate under dividers to a different part of the bag. The inserts allow rapidly reconfiguring the whole main compartment. Some people even buy extra inserts to store lenses in. As an example insert 1 could hold all FF lenses. A 2nd insert could hold all DA lenses. A 3rd insert could hold all primes while a 4th hold all zooms. 3 inserts can sit in a cabinet at home loaded with lenses. Decide what equipment will be used and place that insert in the bag.
That can be useful indeed. The closest comparison would probably be Peak Design's origami dividers which adapt to varying situations, but it's not exactly what you describe.
Originally posted by barondla 3. Insert and pocket sizes that match available equipment. Domke bags have larger openings to fit common big lenses. 77mm filter size lenses are no problem. The bags and also are tall enough to handle these bigger lenses.
That's far from unique to Domke.
Originally posted by barondla 4. Fasteners. The Domke allows 1 handed opening and closing. Speed of access!
That strongly depends on the bag. I think even with less optimized bags muscle memory lets you achieve this over time (I used to have a Timbuk2 messenger bag, it had two large buckles that I was able to open without looking even if they were a bit clumsy at times). If that kind of easy access is important for you, you'd probably like
Peak Design's maglatch closure.
Originally posted by barondla 5. Large lid flaps. The flap hangs 2/3 of the way to the bottom of the bag. This protects against rain. It also means a Domke lid tends to stay closed without latching. If the top/front lid pocket is loaded with equipment, the weight also helps to keep the lid shut. I rarely latch the bag until the end of the day or while riding in a car.
Having equipment stored inside the top flap of a messenger bag is rather uncommon, probably because access can be more cumbersome if the flap is reversed. However, having a large lid which stays in place if not fastened is quite common. Reading this paragraph made me think of
the Retrospective line from Think Tank, among others. You can see my review of it.
Originally posted by barondla 6. Canvas construction. Quieter (important for wildlife photography), less static electricity, and less wear to clothes via rubbing. The canvas strap also has some give, which reduces the shock of walking and makes the bag feel lighter.
Again makes me think of the Retrospective line
Or maybe the
Signature from Think Tank also.
I'm personally a fan of more technical fabrics, like those found on
Mindshift Gear, Wandrd and
Peak Design bags (among others), but that is purely a personal choice.
Originally posted by barondla Domke bags are about work flow. They are also similar to Pentax cameras. Their main strengths can't be learned from a spec sheet or review. They have to be used. Try one a few months and see if they work for you.
I never tried one for a long period, but I did test somewhat comparable bags (like an older Pentax bag which looks quite a bit like Domke from the outside).
My main gripe when handling one is about thickness. I much prefer a longer and thinner messenger bag instead of a shorter and thicker one. Also, I usually dig a more modern look (while I really respect the Retrospective line, these bags are not my favourite for everyday use).
The modular inserts are probably the most unique feature you listed. I can see that being invaluable if someone has very distinct kits for distinct applications. That's not my case (I'll have a few carry-everywhere lenses, plus a few outliers depending on the day) but I'm only one guy.
Thanks for the input! I like these kinds of discussions.