Originally posted by barondla If the system only allows accessing a camera and one lens quickly...whats the point?
A few comments:
I generally attach a lens case to the waist belt for even quicker access. and I use a Peak Design Capture Clip on the backpack strap, that's an invaluable tool.
With the Horizon, I'm able to carry the K-1 with 28-105 mounted, a flash, lensPen and filters, plus 2-3 primes if I pack cleverly. I can replace the primes and flash with the 60-250mm. So there's no problem with carrying a fair amount of gear. when hiking one doesn't want to carry everything, packing too heavy a bag is never a good idea.
If someone wants to bring more stuff, the company sells an insert for the top part of the backpack.
Originally posted by barondla I'd just take the camera and lens out of the backpack upon arrival, and use the neck strap.This backpack seems aimed at hikers with a little quick storage access thrown in. Does the camera storage decrease with their smaller bags?
The smaller (and larger) rotation180 have camera compartments that follow the general size of the bag, yes.
From my experience with camera backpacks (I've tested and reviewed at least 7 so far) the Horizon is, by far, the best hiking backpack available. There's nothing "thrown in" here.
Originally posted by barondla I got that it would be nice to have 1cm more room for the K-1and lens to fit easily.
When I wrote that, I used the 16-85 with the K-1. The 28-105 is a bit shorter. I still think that 1 cm would make a nice difference, but really it depends on your lens.
Originally posted by y0chang I find most camera backpack that hold too little camera gear to use as a primary bag and hold too little camping gear to backpack with, i find it better to just put an insert that holds an extra camera and/or lens into a backpack and have the camera on a neck or handstrap.
I used to think that, but an insert has many drawbacks. Quick access is the main advantage of dedicated camera bags, and the Horizon (the whole rotation180 line really) shine in this regard. No other bag comes close to granting such quick access.
People have different definitions, and different needs, for hiking. The duration of the hike in particular will be an important element. At 34 liters, the Horizon is probably fine for 1-2 day hikes at most, if you are not new to minimal packing for hikes. It makes a great one-day bag for even the most casual hiker or families out for the day.
Originally posted by y0chang it seems every outdoor bag seems to put the camera body at the bottom of the bag with a zipper
That's because of the weight distribution. The camera gear is usually the heaviest, so you need it near the waist for better balance, to prevent fatigue and injuries.
Originally posted by fsge It seems I am not the only one not finding the appropriate back pack! It seems there is no super convenient offering at the moment...
I would argue that there are many, many products available today. It depends on what you need and desire.