Originally posted by carlb We're currently in Tassie and I've been hiking and walking with a KP and a 16 - 85 and 55 - 300 zooms and a Mindshift Rotation backpack and, quite honestly, that's enough to lug around.
Thanks for the input, Carl. I looked up that Mindshsift Rotation pack - a neat concept, a lot easier than the LowePro Flipside, where you have to remove the shoulder straps and swivel the whole backpack around on the waist strap.
Originally posted by Lowell Goudge Not sure the relevance here, but...
I seriously question the need for a tripod. But perhaps for macro work I shoot the long lenses hand held.
Thanks, Lowell. I am not sure how I will go trying to use the 150-450 handheld for bird shots. And I normally regard a tripod as a no-brainer for macro shots. Then again, one of my best macros was shot handheld using my 55-300mm PLM with flash. Maybe the use of flash freezing subject movement will be enough for macros. But that still leaves me with questionable ability to shoot birds handheld with such a heavy lens as the 150-450mm. But if I choose the light carbon-fibre monopod and leave the tripod home, it might do. Will need to practice with this combination to see how I go.
Originally posted by aaacb The peak design capture is great for holding something like the 16-85on the shoulder strap. I like mine. However i doubt it'd be a good idea to try and attach a heavy lens like the 150-450, which would be dangling by the lens mount in front of you. That's a lot of gear btw, especially when you add the hiking stuff you'd need for 6 hours, such as water, food, extra clothing
I would not dream of suspending this combo (150-450mm + KP) by the camera mount from any system - I envisage suspending by the tripod mount of the lens. I have watched videos of guys using the Cotton chest harness to suspend FF cameras with 500mm to 600mm lens. Most of these guys were taller than myself, with a longer torso, but it still looked like a great way to hike hands-free: there wasn't any camera swing (unlike hip-based systems).
Originally posted by bdery .........
Then I read that you wanted to carry it with a 150-450.
That's just not gonna work!
The Clip can bear it, no problem, but you'll have to use a different system.
I absolutely recommend that you carry it on your hip, using a pad such as this one:
Think Tank Modular Belt System Review - Camera Clip Adapter | PentaxForums.com Reviews
That would be, by far, the best way to go about it. I've done that often with the 60-250 as shown in the pictures and it's much better.
No shoulder strap is going to be stiff enough to carry the 150-450 attached.
By the way, I've toyed briefly with the Cotton Carrier system, and didn't like it nearly as much as the Peak Design.
Thanks for the thoughts bdery. "Not gonna work" - I am inclined to agree, but would be interested to hear why you say that. "No shoulder strap..." Again, my instinct is to agree with that - which is why I am looking at chest harness options - thoughts??
When you say you "have toyed with the Cotton Carrier system" were you referring to their shoulder system, or their chest harness system?
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absolutely recommend that you carry it on your hip": my research so far has uncovered a number of videos where photographers have complained about the "feel" of a long lens swings around their hips and legs. Just the look of it puts me off, to be honest, although the ThinkTank belt system you suggested (I did look it up, and thanks for the suggestion) does look good for perhaps a lens pouch and flashlight pouch.
Originally posted by UncleVanya Question: what’s the intended use of the tripod? Could you go lighter with it? Could you substitute one that has a detachable leg/monopod to reduce bulk and weight?
Thanks for commenting, UncleVanya. As I mentioned in my answer to Lowell and and Carlb, I am not sure if I could trust myself to hold up and shoot with such a big lens as the 150-450mm, Shake Reduction notwithstanding.
Originally posted by SteveinSLC I'd agree with the others, the 150-450 is too big to go on the Peak clip on a shoulder strap. I've done long hikes(10+miles) with that system, but only with smaller setups, like the KP and 55-300. Not sure I'd advise hiking long distances with the camera and lens on the tripod either. Not great from a weight/carrying perspective or a risk perspective. That's a lot of weight and leverage to be hanging off the mount for a long time, potentially banging into things. The hip mount seems a better idea, or use a shoulder sling and switch sides periodically.
I'd also consider a travel tripod or monopod and a ballhead instead of a pistol grip as a lighter setup.
Thanks Steve: am seriously considering mounting the Vanguard pistol grip on my monopod - have worked with it that way with the 55-300mm PLM. It mostly works well, especially if there is a handy tree to lean back against, or a rock to sit on, But sometimes I find it a bit of a challenge when free-standing.
Oh, and
YEA !!, my 150-450mm lens arrived just an hour ago. Unpacked it - it sure is one big heavy monster! I put it on my tripod, and took a small number of shots through my lounge room sliding door doorway of some Long-Billed Corellas in a tree some distance away over my neighbour's rooftop. For initial shots - not too bad, considering the distance, and a very dull, overcast day.
Check
HERE if interested. Images may be just a tad soft??, Be warned: these are on my OneDrive, where, unlike Flickr, a good 5-10 seconds is needed before the image is fully rendered. And a further wait is needed if you "pixel-peep:" by double-clicking on a displayed image to magnify.
Thanks again, everyone, for taking the time to comment and make suggestions - I appreciate the time taken, and would welcome any further comments to this current response.