I want an awesome strap

Mechan1k · 12-11-2008, 02:28 AM

Originally posted by Clicker

That's a pretty nice bit of kit ... I like the RS-2 as well.

Livewireshock · 12-11-2008, 05:42 AM

If you want something that feels better than the around the neck option with most straps, consider a bino/cam harness. Weight is placed better around the body.

Ratmagiclady · 12-13-2008, 11:17 AM

Hey, quick question: what do new K20ds come with, anyway? Skinny little thing, or maybe a web thing with a logo?

Steinback · 12-13-2008, 01:23 PM

I'm pretty sure the k20d comes with the same padded strap as the k10d, it's about 1.25 inches wide and reasonably comfortable.

magnum1 · 12-13-2008, 02:19 PM

Originally posted by Steinback

I'm pretty sure the k20d comes with the same padded strap as the k10d, it's about 1.25 inches wide and reasonably comfortable.

You are correct. It's the same strap. Personally I wish they would offer something more "professional" looking.

Ratmagiclady · 12-13-2008, 05:45 PM

Not that I know for sure what came with the *10d,* but I think I get the idea. Sounds OK. (Actually, this strap will probably end up on ME Super I got hold of, I was just shifting things around and realized I was a bit short of straps. Got something for the K20, though.

)

raider · 12-13-2008, 06:33 PM

Saw a Matin Neoprene strap selling relatively inexpensive. Is this any good?

pop4 · 12-13-2008, 07:55 PM

I use a Matin neoprene strap, and I've found it way better than the original K10D strap. The original strap isn't too bad for short periods of time, but I found that after having it around your neck for more than a few hours at a time, because of the thinness, and type of material, it'll start digging into your skin and become really uncomfortable. On the other hand, the Matin is made of neoprene and is a lot thicker and softer, and I've had a recent holiday where I had the camera around my neck almost all of the time, and my neck was still feeling comfortable at the end of it.

raider · 12-14-2008, 08:37 PM

If the camera/lens combo is heavy (eg. with a 70-200/f2.8), will the matin strap sorta make the camera/lens bounce up and down...since neoprene tend to stretch?

Ratmagiclady · 12-15-2008, 02:28 PM

Originally posted by raider

If the camera/lens combo is heavy (eg. with a 70-200/f2.8), will the matin strap sorta make the camera/lens bounce up and down...since neoprene tend to stretch?

I'm not sure about the particular model, there, but the big Optechs I use for my heavier stuff have a neoprene pad and then a somewhat elastic part that's placed over that loosely to sort of control any bouncing, ...works just fine that way, it gives a little but not too far. I suspect that some neoprene ones with stitching along them won't bounce too much.

I actually got another one for my K20D that's coming, but it might be a while before anything very heavy goes on there.

I use these boomerangey ones for some reasonably heavy stuff, and they work pretty well.

pop4 · 12-16-2008, 04:57 AM

I've found that with my Matin neoprene, it doesn't really bounce around that much, i.e. it's not at all like an elastic band type of effect. It actually takes some force to make it stretch, and I've never had my camera+lens actually bounce around.

Of course, my heaviest combo is only a K10D with a Sigma 10-20, but my feeling is that if you put a camera and 70-200 around your neck with a Matin neoprene strap, you will feel it stretching a little bit, and then it'll settle. Just remember YMMV.

Any chance you can check one out in a walk-in store?

raider · 12-16-2008, 05:14 AM

Not sure which camera shop is selling a matin strap. I am pretty sure those shops in perth downtown ain't selling them.

Ratmagiclady · 12-16-2008, 12:21 PM

I just got my K20d, and put one of those Optech neoprene straps on directly. The camera has a bit nicer of an amount of heft to it than I was necessarily-expecting, so I don't anticipate many neoprene problems. (I'd been initially thinking one of these might be a bit much without a heavy lens.

) I wouldn't be concerned too much about neoprene bounce, in general, here. It's rarely been noticeable with the heavier stuff I've carried, and pretty well-controlled.

LaRee · 12-23-2008, 11:14 PM

Originally posted by Ratmagiclady

I just got my K20d, and put one of those Optech neoprene straps on directly. The camera has a bit nicer of an amount of heft to it than I was necessarily-expecting, so I don't anticipate many neoprene problems. (I'd been initially thinking one of these might be a bit much without a heavy lens.

) I wouldn't be concerned too much about neoprene bounce, in general, here. It's rarely been noticeable with the heavier stuff I've carried, and pretty well-controlled.

I don't have any problem at all with the OPtech straps. I love them. I also like that the connections provide the ability for me to use a wrist strap, neck strap or my Kinesis harness without having to fish things through those stupidly small strap lugs on the camera. I like having different carrying options depending on the lens I am using and also the conditions I am shooting under. Optech straps are the most comfortable I've owned and I haven't noticed any bounce it the ones I've used. I use the wide pro series optech neck straps.

LaRee · 12-23-2008, 11:25 PM

Originally posted by lamgray

Any advice on a strap to avoid back pain from a long day of shooting and hauling gear?

I love using this harness system when doing a long hike with a big heavy lens like the Bigma.
Kinesis Photo Gear [H-Series] Harnesses & Camera Straps
I use it mostly without the waist belt and bags I also got with it. The harness itself has been a workhorse for me. It is very well made and saves my back big time. I have used it with a regular lowepro backback and even the Pentax slingbag. But it isn't all that great with the slingbag in combo, too many things going on too close to each other with that set up. Another great thing about the Kinesis system is that I could get the harness iwth compatible connectors for my optech neck straps and wrist straps. This way I never have to change the connector on the camera body, but I have lots of options of how to carry my camera depending on lens choice and shooting conditions.

12-11-2008, 02:28 AM	#16
Mechan1k Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 2,891	Originally posted by Clicker BlackRapid: Home That's a pretty nice bit of kit ... I like the RS-2 as well.

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12-11-2008, 05:42 AM	#17
Livewireshock Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Lismore, NSW, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 144	If you want something that feels better than the around the neck option with most straps, consider a bino/cam harness. Weight is placed better around the body.

12-13-2008, 11:17 AM	#18
Ratmagiclady Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: GA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,563	Hey, quick question: what do new K20ds come with, anyway? Skinny little thing, or maybe a web thing with a logo?

12-13-2008, 01:23 PM	#19
Steinback Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: GTA, ON, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,673	I'm pretty sure the k20d comes with the same padded strap as the k10d, it's about 1.25 inches wide and reasonably comfortable.

12-13-2008, 02:19 PM	#20
magnum1 Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Niagara, Wisconsin U.S. of Ay. Posts: 394	Originally posted by Steinback I'm pretty sure the k20d comes with the same padded strap as the k10d, it's about 1.25 inches wide and reasonably comfortable. You are correct. It's the same strap. Personally I wish they would offer something more "professional" looking.

12-13-2008, 05:45 PM	#21
Ratmagiclady Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: GA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,563	Not that I know for sure what came with the 10d, but I think I get the idea. Sounds OK. (Actually, this strap will probably end up on ME Super I got hold of, I was just shifting things around and realized I was a bit short of straps. Got something for the K20, though. )

12-13-2008, 06:33 PM	#22
raider Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Perth, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,989	Saw a Matin Neoprene strap selling relatively inexpensive. Is this any good?

12-13-2008, 07:55 PM	#23
pop4 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: YMML Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,879	I use a Matin neoprene strap, and I've found it way better than the original K10D strap. The original strap isn't too bad for short periods of time, but I found that after having it around your neck for more than a few hours at a time, because of the thinness, and type of material, it'll start digging into your skin and become really uncomfortable. On the other hand, the Matin is made of neoprene and is a lot thicker and softer, and I've had a recent holiday where I had the camera around my neck almost all of the time, and my neck was still feeling comfortable at the end of it.

12-14-2008, 08:37 PM	#24
raider Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Perth, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,989	If the camera/lens combo is heavy (eg. with a 70-200/f2.8), will the matin strap sorta make the camera/lens bounce up and down...since neoprene tend to stretch?

12-15-2008, 02:28 PM	#25
Ratmagiclady Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: GA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,563	Originally posted by raider If the camera/lens combo is heavy (eg. with a 70-200/f2.8), will the matin strap sorta make the camera/lens bounce up and down...since neoprene tend to stretch? I'm not sure about the particular model, there, but the big Optechs I use for my heavier stuff have a neoprene pad and then a somewhat elastic part that's placed over that loosely to sort of control any bouncing, ...works just fine that way, it gives a little but not too far. I suspect that some neoprene ones with stitching along them won't bounce too much. I actually got another one for my K20D that's coming, but it might be a while before anything very heavy goes on there. I use these boomerangey ones for some reasonably heavy stuff, and they work pretty well.

12-16-2008, 04:57 AM	#26
pop4 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: YMML Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,879	I've found that with my Matin neoprene, it doesn't really bounce around that much, i.e. it's not at all like an elastic band type of effect. It actually takes some force to make it stretch, and I've never had my camera+lens actually bounce around. Of course, my heaviest combo is only a K10D with a Sigma 10-20, but my feeling is that if you put a camera and 70-200 around your neck with a Matin neoprene strap, you will feel it stretching a little bit, and then it'll settle. Just remember YMMV. Any chance you can check one out in a walk-in store?

12-16-2008, 05:14 AM	#27
raider Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Perth, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,989	Not sure which camera shop is selling a matin strap. I am pretty sure those shops in perth downtown ain't selling them.

12-16-2008, 12:21 PM	#28
Ratmagiclady Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: GA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,563	I just got my K20d, and put one of those Optech neoprene straps on directly. The camera has a bit nicer of an amount of heft to it than I was necessarily-expecting, so I don't anticipate many neoprene problems. (I'd been initially thinking one of these might be a bit much without a heavy lens. ) I wouldn't be concerned too much about neoprene bounce, in general, here. It's rarely been noticeable with the heavier stuff I've carried, and pretty well-controlled.

12-23-2008, 11:14 PM	#29
LaRee Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: San Diego Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,225	Originally posted by Ratmagiclady I just got my K20d, and put one of those Optech neoprene straps on directly. The camera has a bit nicer of an amount of heft to it than I was necessarily-expecting, so I don't anticipate many neoprene problems. (I'd been initially thinking one of these might be a bit much without a heavy lens. ) I wouldn't be concerned too much about neoprene bounce, in general, here. It's rarely been noticeable with the heavier stuff I've carried, and pretty well-controlled. I don't have any problem at all with the OPtech straps. I love them. I also like that the connections provide the ability for me to use a wrist strap, neck strap or my Kinesis harness without having to fish things through those stupidly small strap lugs on the camera. I like having different carrying options depending on the lens I am using and also the conditions I am shooting under. Optech straps are the most comfortable I've owned and I haven't noticed any bounce it the ones I've used. I use the wide pro series optech neck straps.

12-23-2008, 11:25 PM	#30
LaRee Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: San Diego Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,225	Originally posted by lamgray Any advice on a strap to avoid back pain from a long day of shooting and hauling gear? I love using this harness system when doing a long hike with a big heavy lens like the Bigma. Kinesis Photo Gear [H-Series] Harnesses & Camera Straps I use it mostly without the waist belt and bags I also got with it. The harness itself has been a workhorse for me. It is very well made and saves my back big time. I have used it with a regular lowepro backback and even the Pentax slingbag. But it isn't all that great with the slingbag in combo, too many things going on too close to each other with that set up. Another great thing about the Kinesis system is that I could get the harness iwth compatible connectors for my optech neck straps and wrist straps. This way I never have to change the connector on the camera body, but I have lots of options of how to carry my camera depending on lens choice and shooting conditions.