Batteries just ran out K200D

djayvo · 12-27-2008, 04:48 PM

The Batteries in my K200D just ran out (Lithium). They only had about 150 shots on them and maybe 30-50 were with flash. I would have thought they would last at least 500 with maybe 100 flash shots. Anyone I can compare this with.

MoiVous · 12-27-2008, 04:58 PM

That's interesting. The manual says you get about 1000 shots, as did DPreview.

But I was a tad disappointed when the supplied Li batteries only gave about 400 shots (mixed with flash).

My theory is that my playing with the camera after I got it (setups/adjusments/image review/DOF stopdown etc) chewed up more power as the screen was on for longer (the backlight has to use power - thats how you can see it). I had turned off the image display after shooting though.

On the other hand, I've put in some freshly charged Eneloops (and just scored 2 more sets for Christmas - yay!) and have taken about 300 shots so far. The only limitation appears to be a slightly slower write time to SD card (I'm writing RAW(PEF)+JPEG).

There are quite a few threads about battery life to trawl through BTW.

Erik · 12-27-2008, 06:02 PM

Just get Eneloops and forget about using any other battery ever.

tman1233 · 12-27-2008, 06:26 PM

I get from 500 to 700 on a set on Lithium. Do you transfer via USB or card reader? That might chew thru some battery. I also turned down the display time of a image after picture taken time. If you are shooting high ISO/low light and there is a lot of noise reduction going on, then that might chew up battery also.

Last edited by tman1233; 12-27-2008 at 06:36 PM.

djayvo · 12-27-2008, 06:54 PM

Originally posted by MoiVous

That's interesting. The manual says you get about 1000 shots, as did DPreview.

But I was a tad disappointed when the supplied Li batteries only gave about 400 shots (mixed with flash).

My theory is that my playing with the camera after I got it (setups/adjusments/image review/DOF stopdown etc) chewed up more power as the screen was on for longer (the backlight has to use power - thats how you can see it). I had turned off the image display after shooting though.

On the other hand, I've put in some freshly charged Eneloops (and just scored 2 more sets for Christmas - yay!) and have taken about 300 shots so far. The only limitation appears to be a slightly slower write time to SD card (I'm writing RAW(PEF)+JPEG).

There are quite a few threads about battery life to trawl through BTW.

I read a lot of threads on batteries and that is why I was so surprised that my batteries died so fast.

MoiVous : I could see this because I also spent a lot of time getting use to the menu.
What kind of card are you writing to? I have the Sandisk 111.

tman1233: I use my memory card reader on my laptop to transfer the files over.

I also have 8 eneloops coming my way next week and then I really don’t care if I have to switch over every 300 or so but just found it strange after reading how long these batteries last. Makes me wonder of even keeping these as back up. I new the flash would drain some extra juice but not to this extent. I suppose I should buy an external flash for indoor shooting.
Anyways thanks for the prompt reply.

**Mallee Boy** · 12-27-2008, 06:58 PM

did you take many of your 150 shots outside? and if so, how cold was it? Low temps can kill any battery very quickly.
Cheers.

djayvo · 12-27-2008, 07:10 PM

I only shot around 10-20 outside in cold weather most were shot from inside the car.

**GaryM** · 12-27-2008, 08:14 PM

Originally posted by djayvo

The Batteries in my K200D just ran out (Lithium). They only had about 150 shots on them and maybe 30-50 were with flash. I would have thought they would last at least 500 with maybe 100 flash shots. Anyone I can compare this with.

I had a similar issue with the K200D once, and it might be a bug with the battery meter related to the flash recharging. I almost *never* use the pop-up flash, but the one time I did, after about 10 shots the camera gave me a dead battery indication and stopped working. I was especially embarrassed because I was shooting some event shots for a friend, and didn't have any spare batteries (it was an unplanned role for me, which is why I was unprepared). When I got home, I turned on the camera with the same batteries still in the camera, and it indicated a full charge! I probably got another 400-500 shots out of them, but I haven't used the pop-up flash since. Test the batteries again after letting the camera rest a while, and see if you get the same outcome.

djayvo · 12-27-2008, 08:41 PM

No they are dead. I'll go back to the camera store and see if they can replace them and give it another try. Only had the camera about a month and they should be able to tell how many pics I took. Maybe customer service is top on there list.

djayvo · 12-28-2008, 10:07 AM

Henry's the camera shop I deal with agreed and gave me 4 new Lithium's.
I'm still wondering if my camera is a energy hog but at least I can try again.

dave sz · 12-28-2008, 10:27 AM

Originally posted by MoiVous

That's interesting. The manual says you get about 1000 shots, as did DPreview.

But I was a tad disappointed when the supplied Li batteries only gave about 400 shots (mixed with flash).

I hought it was common knowledge that the supplied batteries, whether with your camera, or remote, or anything, are only there for testing purposes, nothing else...

**Mallee Boy** · 12-28-2008, 02:09 PM

G'day dave,
The K200D now comes with a set of Energiser Lithiums. One could assume these are the same battery that can be bought over the counter....but in this day & age of smoke and mirrors, one is never sure.

Cheers.

MoiVous · 12-28-2008, 03:06 PM

Originally posted by dave sz

I hought it was common knowledge that the supplied batteries, whether with your camera, or remote, or anything, are only there for testing purposes, nothing else...

I would have thought that too - bit like printer cartridges are test drive versions (hence my switch to CISS ink

), but the Energizer Lithiums that came with it had an expiry of 2017 from memory. The Energizer Li battery have a quoted 10 year shelf life as well, so it would be reasonable to assume a fairly fresh set of batteries are supplied. Whatever the case, they didn't last long - C'est la vie!

Peter Zack · 12-28-2008, 03:15 PM

I would also wonder how much you are using the rear LCD. If you have the preview on for long periods and review images a lot, zooming etc. you'll go through the batteries much faster. With the next fresh set, either turn the preview off or just to one second. That will extend battery life quite a bit.

UnknownVT · 12-28-2008, 03:27 PM

Originally posted by djayvo

Henry's the camera shop I deal with agreed and gave me 4 new Lithium's.
I'm still wondering if my camera is a energy hog but at least I can try again.

Good to see the vendor responded positively.

The K200D should not be a energy hog - I looked at the on-line pdf K200D Manual - the battery specs -

compared to the K100D it seems like an improvement.

Using eneloops I have gotten shot counts of between 600 (mostly with flash) -1100 (mostly without flash) per charge.
see: k100d battery recommendation

12-27-2008, 04:48 PM	#1
djayvo Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 86	Batteries just ran out K200D The Batteries in my K200D just ran out (Lithium). They only had about 150 shots on them and maybe 30-50 were with flash. I would have thought they would last at least 500 with maybe 100 flash shots. Anyone I can compare this with.

12-27-2008, 07:10 PM	#7
djayvo Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 86 Original Poster	10-20 in around the -5 c I only shot around 10-20 outside in cold weather most were shot from inside the car.

12-27-2008, 08:41 PM	#9
djayvo Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 86 Original Poster	NO luck No they are dead. I'll go back to the camera store and see if they can replace them and give it another try. Only had the camera about a month and they should be able to tell how many pics I took. Maybe customer service is top on there list.

12-28-2008, 10:07 AM	#10
djayvo Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 86 Original Poster	new lithium's Henry's the camera shop I deal with agreed and gave me 4 new Lithium's. I'm still wondering if my camera is a energy hog but at least I can try again.

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12-27-2008, 04:58 PM	#2
MoiVous Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 677	That's interesting. The manual says you get about 1000 shots, as did DPreview. But I was a tad disappointed when the supplied Li batteries only gave about 400 shots (mixed with flash). My theory is that my playing with the camera after I got it (setups/adjusments/image review/DOF stopdown etc) chewed up more power as the screen was on for longer (the backlight has to use power - thats how you can see it). I had turned off the image display after shooting though. On the other hand, I've put in some freshly charged Eneloops (and just scored 2 more sets for Christmas - yay!) and have taken about 300 shots so far. The only limitation appears to be a slightly slower write time to SD card (I'm writing RAW(PEF)+JPEG). There are quite a few threads about battery life to trawl through BTW.

12-27-2008, 06:02 PM	#3
Erik Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Umeå, Sweden Posts: 755	Just get Eneloops and forget about using any other battery ever.

12-27-2008, 06:26 PM	#4
tman1233 Inactive Account Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Yukon, OK Posts: 12	I get from 500 to 700 on a set on Lithium. Do you transfer via USB or card reader? That might chew thru some battery. I also turned down the display time of a image after picture taken time. If you are shooting high ISO/low light and there is a lot of noise reduction going on, then that might chew up battery also. Last edited by tman1233; 12-27-2008 at 06:36 PM.

12-27-2008, 06:54 PM	#5
djayvo Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 86 Original Poster	Originally posted by MoiVous That's interesting. The manual says you get about 1000 shots, as did DPreview. But I was a tad disappointed when the supplied Li batteries only gave about 400 shots (mixed with flash). My theory is that my playing with the camera after I got it (setups/adjusments/image review/DOF stopdown etc) chewed up more power as the screen was on for longer (the backlight has to use power - thats how you can see it). I had turned off the image display after shooting though. On the other hand, I've put in some freshly charged Eneloops (and just scored 2 more sets for Christmas - yay!) and have taken about 300 shots so far. The only limitation appears to be a slightly slower write time to SD card (I'm writing RAW(PEF)+JPEG). There are quite a few threads about battery life to trawl through BTW. I read a lot of threads on batteries and that is why I was so surprised that my batteries died so fast. MoiVous : I could see this because I also spent a lot of time getting use to the menu. What kind of card are you writing to? I have the Sandisk 111. tman1233: I use my memory card reader on my laptop to transfer the files over. I also have 8 eneloops coming my way next week and then I really don’t care if I have to switch over every 300 or so but just found it strange after reading how long these batteries last. Makes me wonder of even keeping these as back up. I new the flash would drain some extra juice but not to this extent. I suppose I should buy an external flash for indoor shooting. Anyways thanks for the prompt reply.

12-27-2008, 06:58 PM	#6
Mallee Boy Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: South Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,904	did you take many of your 150 shots outside? and if so, how cold was it? Low temps can kill any battery very quickly. Cheers.

12-27-2008, 08:14 PM	#8
GaryM Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Montclair, CA Photos: Gallery Posts: 426	Originally posted by djayvo The Batteries in my K200D just ran out (Lithium). They only had about 150 shots on them and maybe 30-50 were with flash. I would have thought they would last at least 500 with maybe 100 flash shots. Anyone I can compare this with. I had a similar issue with the K200D once, and it might be a bug with the battery meter related to the flash recharging. I almost never use the pop-up flash, but the one time I did, after about 10 shots the camera gave me a dead battery indication and stopped working. I was especially embarrassed because I was shooting some event shots for a friend, and didn't have any spare batteries (it was an unplanned role for me, which is why I was unprepared). When I got home, I turned on the camera with the same batteries still in the camera, and it indicated a full charge! I probably got another 400-500 shots out of them, but I haven't used the pop-up flash since. Test the batteries again after letting the camera rest a while, and see if you get the same outcome.

12-28-2008, 10:27 AM	#11
dave sz Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: carpentersville, IL Posts: 693	Originally posted by MoiVous That's interesting. The manual says you get about 1000 shots, as did DPreview. But I was a tad disappointed when the supplied Li batteries only gave about 400 shots (mixed with flash). I hought it was common knowledge that the supplied batteries, whether with your camera, or remote, or anything, are only there for testing purposes, nothing else...

12-28-2008, 02:09 PM	#12
Mallee Boy Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: South Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,904	G'day dave, The K200D now comes with a set of Energiser Lithiums. One could assume these are the same battery that can be bought over the counter....but in this day & age of smoke and mirrors, one is never sure. Cheers.

12-28-2008, 03:06 PM	#13
MoiVous Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 677	Originally posted by dave sz I hought it was common knowledge that the supplied batteries, whether with your camera, or remote, or anything, are only there for testing purposes, nothing else... I would have thought that too - bit like printer cartridges are test drive versions (hence my switch to CISS ink ), but the Energizer Lithiums that came with it had an expiry of 2017 from memory. The Energizer Li battery have a quoted 10 year shelf life as well, so it would be reasonable to assume a fairly fresh set of batteries are supplied. Whatever the case, they didn't last long - C'est la vie!

12-28-2008, 03:15 PM	#14
Peter Zack Pentaxian Moderator Emeritus Join Date: May 2007 Location: Edmonton Alberta, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 10,643	I would also wonder how much you are using the rear LCD. If you have the preview on for long periods and review images a lot, zooming etc. you'll go through the batteries much faster. With the next fresh set, either turn the preview off or just to one second. That will extend battery life quite a bit.

12-28-2008, 03:27 PM	#15
UnknownVT Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: USA Posts: 1,812	Originally posted by djayvo Henry's the camera shop I deal with agreed and gave me 4 new Lithium's. I'm still wondering if my camera is a energy hog but at least I can try again. Good to see the vendor responded positively. The K200D should not be a energy hog - I looked at the on-line pdf K200D Manual - the battery specs - compared to the K100D it seems like an improvement. Using eneloops I have gotten shot counts of between 600 (mostly with flash) -1100 (mostly without flash) per charge. see: k100d battery recommendation