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dbphotography · 06-11-2009, 06:02 PM

I tell ya. I research the heck outta everything. Thought I had it allllll figured out. Was doing some test shooting with my new K20D kit. Had my 360 flashes, ready to rock....then....doh!

I had already done some indoor shots, nooo problem. Fired everytime! Line of sight was not needed....which was much how well my experiences were with Nikon's CLS system. A thing of great beauty.

So there I am, outside...trying to figure out how to better position my flashes IR receivers.... and it hit me....the 360 head doesn't rotate!...AHHHHHHHH! So usually, whenever using other flashes with my previous setups, I just flip the head around where the IR receiver is facing toward me. No problem. Why oh why would Pentax make a wirleess flash that needs line-of-sight (mostly and especially outdoors!) and not let you rotate the head so the IR receiver can face your general direction?

So here I am. I have searched and searched for anyone who has come up with clever ways around this. I use shoot-through umbrellas.

I know I can go with RF gear, but I'm very found of keeping my TTL.

Anyone? Thanks!

Scott

kthung · 06-11-2009, 08:32 PM

The only thing I can think of is upgrade to 540s

and · 06-11-2009, 09:41 PM

no way to make them swivel when they dont swivel. imo its terrible that they dont, the equivalent canon and nikon flashes do swivel. its not like swiveling is some very advanced expensive thing to implement.

Damn Brit · 06-11-2009, 10:52 PM

Would a strategically placed mirror work?

flyer · 06-12-2009, 07:55 AM

Originally posted by Damn Brit

Would a strategically placed mirror work?

Always the practical one...

dbphotography · 06-12-2009, 04:28 PM

Originally posted by Damn Brit

Would a strategically placed mirror work?

Ding, ding, ding! And we have a winner!

Sooo, now who has done it and what have they found to work best or how to mount it? Thanks DB!

Scott

Big I · 06-19-2009, 04:11 PM

if you're willing to spend $70 for a 99% accurate 200-ft range radio trigger, see this:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3268/3119054827_e274c8c38f_m.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3244/3119883576_497fc3c8af_m.jpg
DIY Radio Trigger! on Flickr - Photo Sharing!

a mirror would also work, but it would be tedious, and you'd probably get sick of it really quickly!

Damn Brit · 06-19-2009, 08:22 PM

Originally posted by dbphotography

Ding, ding, ding! And we have a winner!

Sooo, now who has done it and what have they found to work best or how to mount it? Thanks DB!

Scott

Probably a bicycle mirror would work or if you want to go high tech and miniature, a dentist mirror and duct tape.

X Man · 06-19-2009, 08:30 PM

What about a right-angle viewfinder? If you have one kicking around. Or, a child's periscope toy.

Regards,
Mike

**Ash** · 06-20-2009, 02:12 AM

the IR does not have to be perfectly in line with the on-camera flash.
I've triggered my flash even at 90 degrees to my on-camera flash (albeit in reasonably short range) and it still fired perfectly.

alohadave · 06-20-2009, 05:20 PM

Originally posted by dbphotography

Ding, ding, ding! And we have a winner!

Sooo, now who has done it and what have they found to work best or how to mount it? Thanks DB!

Scott

A piece of aluminum foil should work just a well.

06-11-2009, 06:02 PM	#1
dbphotography Forum Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Alabama Posts: 65	Inventive ways to trigger 360 wirelessly outdoors? I tell ya. I research the heck outta everything. Thought I had it allllll figured out. Was doing some test shooting with my new K20D kit. Had my 360 flashes, ready to rock....then....doh! I had already done some indoor shots, nooo problem. Fired everytime! Line of sight was not needed....which was much how well my experiences were with Nikon's CLS system. A thing of great beauty. So there I am, outside...trying to figure out how to better position my flashes IR receivers.... and it hit me....the 360 head doesn't rotate!...AHHHHHHHH! So usually, whenever using other flashes with my previous setups, I just flip the head around where the IR receiver is facing toward me. No problem. Why oh why would Pentax make a wirleess flash that needs line-of-sight (mostly and especially outdoors!) and not let you rotate the head so the IR receiver can face your general direction? So here I am. I have searched and searched for anyone who has come up with clever ways around this. I use shoot-through umbrellas. I know I can go with RF gear, but I'm very found of keeping my TTL. Anyone? Thanks! Scott

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06-11-2009, 08:32 PM	#2
kthung Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 359	The only thing I can think of is upgrade to 540s

06-11-2009, 09:41 PM	#3
and Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,476	no way to make them swivel when they dont swivel. imo its terrible that they dont, the equivalent canon and nikon flashes do swivel. its not like swiveling is some very advanced expensive thing to implement.

06-11-2009, 10:52 PM	#4
Damn Brit Guest	Would a strategically placed mirror work?

06-12-2009, 07:55 AM	#5
flyer Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ste-Anne des Plaines, Qc., Canada Posts: 2,013	Originally posted by Damn Brit Would a strategically placed mirror work? Always the practical one...

06-12-2009, 04:28 PM	#6
dbphotography Forum Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Alabama Posts: 65 Original Poster	Originally posted by Damn Brit Would a strategically placed mirror work? Ding, ding, ding! And we have a winner! Sooo, now who has done it and what have they found to work best or how to mount it? Thanks DB! Scott

06-19-2009, 04:11 PM	#7
Big I Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Central Kansas Posts: 112	if you're willing to spend $70 for a 99% accurate 200-ft range radio trigger, see this: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3268/3119054827_e274c8c38f_m.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3244/3119883576_497fc3c8af_m.jpg DIY Radio Trigger! on Flickr - Photo Sharing! a mirror would also work, but it would be tedious, and you'd probably get sick of it really quickly!

06-19-2009, 08:22 PM	#8
Damn Brit Guest	Originally posted by dbphotography Ding, ding, ding! And we have a winner! Sooo, now who has done it and what have they found to work best or how to mount it? Thanks DB! Scott Probably a bicycle mirror would work or if you want to go high tech and miniature, a dentist mirror and duct tape.

06-19-2009, 08:30 PM	#9
X Man Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Maine Photos: Gallery Posts: 478	What about a right-angle viewfinder? If you have one kicking around. Or, a child's periscope toy. Regards, Mike

06-20-2009, 02:12 AM	#10
Ash Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toowoomba, Queensland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,920	the IR does not have to be perfectly in line with the on-camera flash. I've triggered my flash even at 90 degrees to my on-camera flash (albeit in reasonably short range) and it still fired perfectly.

06-20-2009, 05:20 PM	#11
alohadave Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Quincy, MA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,024	Originally posted by dbphotography Ding, ding, ding! And we have a winner! Sooo, now who has done it and what have they found to work best or how to mount it? Thanks DB! Scott A piece of aluminum foil should work just a well.

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