Which Chinese Focus Screen Requires no Shims? (for K10D)

pbo · 09-02-2009, 06:49 PM

I need to know pretty much what's said in the title

The screen I bought before (I think I chose some random seller) required a lot of shims (post-it notes

) to correct - and only for the split image; I'm relying more and more on microprism collar, and that'd be a huge pain to correct with shims!

Also, how good are double-split (the ones with two lines across) focus screens? In terms of ease of focus compared with normal split-screens...

Thanks!

rockmaster1964 · 09-03-2009, 04:36 AM

I did not need any shims with the Travor.

pbo · 09-03-2009, 12:17 PM

I just ordered the Jinfinance's 2-split version since someone in the beginners corner said they don't need shims. Will hope for the best!

**Lowell Goudge** · 09-03-2009, 06:56 PM

Jinfinance for my K10D was spot on

No shims.

Also note I swapped screens between K10D and *istD (pentax screens) and neither camera needed shims

creampuff · 09-03-2009, 09:38 PM

The best screen imo is the one from focusingscreen.com in Taiwan. They use the Nikon K3 screen (same as what Katzeye uses) at a fraction of the cost. No shims required and the screen is even better than an early version of the Katzeye that I've come across.

res3567 · 09-09-2009, 02:02 AM

Originally posted by Lowell Goudge

Jinfinance for my K10D was spot on

No shims.

Same here!

WheresWaldo · 09-09-2009, 07:08 PM

Originally posted by creampuff

The best screen imo is the one from focusingscreen.com in Taiwan. They use the Nikon K3 screen (same as what Katzeye uses) at a fraction of the cost. No shims required and the screen is even better than an early version of the Katzeye that I've come across.

Let's be accurate, the Katz Eye is not a cut down K3 screen although it is modeled after one.

Let's be fair, the FocusingScreen K3 is a large fraction of the cost of a Katz Eye.

Those two things said, I have two FocusingScreen screens in my K20D's. One K3 w/grid and an Ec-B w/grid.

I also have a JinFinance in my GS-1S.

frank · 09-09-2009, 07:55 PM

I got several Minolta X-700 screen (OEM from China) really cheap, tried to make one for my K-7 (before I ordered the K3 one). The first try wasn't successful 'cause I cracked that thing

I'm on the second one now. Still got 2 screens to break

pbo · 09-09-2009, 09:29 PM

Thanks everyone for input! I ordered one from jinfinance with two splits, hope it will work straight away! He (jinfinance) said it should work without shims, but just in case, he'll include some. So, now it's just waiting...
I can't afford to pay what focusinscreen or katzeye are asking yet...

yyyzzz · 01-12-2010, 03:55 PM

Not sure if it is the problem of the focusing screen or the camera itself. I have to use the debug mode to adjust about 130 to make it focus correctly. It may be my camera's problem.

creampuff · 01-12-2010, 04:15 PM

Originally posted by WheresWaldo

Let's be accurate, the Katz Eye is not a cut down K3 screen although it is modeled after one.

Do you use the Katz Eye screen yourself? Have you any evidence it isn't a cut down K3 screen? If they made their own screens then why even have the distinctive Nikon 12mm circle used for 80/20 centre weighted metering?

Originally posted by WheresWaldo

Let's be fair, the FocusingScreen K3 is a large fraction of the cost of a Katz Eye.

Taiwanese labour is cheaper than US labour perhaps? Higher US markup?

deejjjaaaa · 01-12-2010, 04:55 PM

Originally posted by creampuff

If they made their own screens then why even have the distinctive Nikon 12mm circle used for 80/20 centre weighted metering?

exactly the point, why bother to make your own glass (plastic) w/ that circle otherwise

Blue · 01-13-2010, 09:06 AM

Katz Eye has told people they don't cut down the K3 screen. If their Katz Eye "Plus" is legit not to mention the OptiBright option, I could believe them. If they are bs-ing on those, then the whole thing would be questionable.

WheresWaldo · 01-13-2010, 03:35 PM

Originally posted by creampuff

Do you use the Katz Eye screen yourself? Have you any evidence it isn't a cut down K3 screen? If they made their own screens then why even have the distinctive Nikon 12mm circle used for 80/20 centre weighted metering?

Taiwanese labour is cheaper than US labour perhaps? Higher US markup?

Originally posted by deejjjaaaa

exactly the point, why bother to make your own glass (plastic) w/ that circle otherwise

Originally posted by Blue

Katz Eye has told people they don't cut down the K3 screen. If their Katz Eye "Plus" is legit not to mention the OptiBright option, I could believe them. If they are bs-ing on those, then the whole thing would be questionable.

Repeated over and over, as Blue mentioned Katz-Eye specifically mentions that their screen is not a cut down K3. Now perhaps they get their screen from the same place Nikon gets the K3 (You don't really believe Nikon makes every part of their camera), made to size according to Katz-Eye's request, I don't know, just speculating.

Agree if they BS on the source perhaps all their claims are bogus.

I am very happy with the FocusingScreens K3 and Ec-B that I already have and will not be paying a premium for any screen from Katz-Eye.

raider · 01-13-2010, 05:09 PM

I know this thread is about the k10D. But anyone know which focusing screen (without shims) is suitable for the k100D? Thanks

09-02-2009, 06:49 PM	#1
pbo Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 891	Which Chinese Focus Screen Requires no Shims? (for K10D) I need to know pretty much what's said in the title The screen I bought before (I think I chose some random seller) required a lot of shims (post-it notes ) to correct - and only for the split image; I'm relying more and more on microprism collar, and that'd be a huge pain to correct with shims! Also, how good are double-split (the ones with two lines across) focus screens? In terms of ease of focus compared with normal split-screens... Thanks!

01-12-2010, 03:55 PM	#10
yyyzzz Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Salt Lake City, UT Photos: Gallery Posts: 509	Ordered for my K10d still have the back focusing problem Not sure if it is the problem of the focusing screen or the camera itself. I have to use the debug mode to adjust about 130 to make it focus correctly. It may be my camera's problem.

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09-03-2009, 12:17 PM	#3
pbo Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 891 Original Poster	I just ordered the Jinfinance's 2-split version since someone in the beginners corner said they don't need shims. Will hope for the best!

09-03-2009, 06:56 PM	#4
Lowell Goudge Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,888	Jinfinance for my K10D was spot on No shims. Also note I swapped screens between K10D and *istD (pentax screens) and neither camera needed shims

09-03-2009, 09:38 PM	#5
creampuff Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Singapore Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,953	The best screen imo is the one from focusingscreen.com in Taiwan. They use the Nikon K3 screen (same as what Katzeye uses) at a fraction of the cost. No shims required and the screen is even better than an early version of the Katzeye that I've come across.

09-09-2009, 02:02 AM	#6
res3567 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Houston Tx. Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,876	Originally posted by Lowell Goudge Jinfinance for my K10D was spot on No shims. Same here!

09-09-2009, 07:08 PM	#7
WheresWaldo Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: North Carolina Photos: Gallery Posts: 498	Originally posted by creampuff The best screen imo is the one from focusingscreen.com in Taiwan. They use the Nikon K3 screen (same as what Katzeye uses) at a fraction of the cost. No shims required and the screen is even better than an early version of the Katzeye that I've come across. Let's be accurate, the Katz Eye is not a cut down K3 screen although it is modeled after one. Let's be fair, the FocusingScreen K3 is a large fraction of the cost of a Katz Eye. Those two things said, I have two FocusingScreen screens in my K20D's. One K3 w/grid and an Ec-B w/grid. I also have a JinFinance in my GS-1S.

09-09-2009, 07:55 PM	#8
frank Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Singapore Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,202	I got several Minolta X-700 screen (OEM from China) really cheap, tried to make one for my K-7 (before I ordered the K3 one). The first try wasn't successful 'cause I cracked that thing I'm on the second one now. Still got 2 screens to break

09-09-2009, 09:29 PM	#9
pbo Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 891 Original Poster	Thanks everyone for input! I ordered one from jinfinance with two splits, hope it will work straight away! He (jinfinance) said it should work without shims, but just in case, he'll include some. So, now it's just waiting... I can't afford to pay what focusinscreen or katzeye are asking yet...

01-12-2010, 04:15 PM	#11
creampuff Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Singapore Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,953	Originally posted by WheresWaldo Let's be accurate, the Katz Eye is not a cut down K3 screen although it is modeled after one. Do you use the Katz Eye screen yourself? Have you any evidence it isn't a cut down K3 screen? If they made their own screens then why even have the distinctive Nikon 12mm circle used for 80/20 centre weighted metering? Originally posted by WheresWaldo Let's be fair, the FocusingScreen K3 is a large fraction of the cost of a Katz Eye. Taiwanese labour is cheaper than US labour perhaps? Higher US markup?

01-12-2010, 04:55 PM	#12
deejjjaaaa Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: steel city / rust belt Posts: 2,043	Originally posted by creampuff If they made their own screens then why even have the distinctive Nikon 12mm circle used for 80/20 centre weighted metering? exactly the point, why bother to make your own glass (plastic) w/ that circle otherwise

01-13-2010, 09:06 AM	#13
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Katz Eye has told people they don't cut down the K3 screen. If their Katz Eye "Plus" is legit not to mention the OptiBright option, I could believe them. If they are bs-ing on those, then the whole thing would be questionable.

01-13-2010, 03:35 PM	#14
WheresWaldo Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: North Carolina Photos: Gallery Posts: 498	Originally posted by creampuff Do you use the Katz Eye screen yourself? Have you any evidence it isn't a cut down K3 screen? If they made their own screens then why even have the distinctive Nikon 12mm circle used for 80/20 centre weighted metering? Taiwanese labour is cheaper than US labour perhaps? Higher US markup? Originally posted by deejjjaaaa exactly the point, why bother to make your own glass (plastic) w/ that circle otherwise Originally posted by Blue Katz Eye has told people they don't cut down the K3 screen. If their Katz Eye "Plus" is legit not to mention the OptiBright option, I could believe them. If they are bs-ing on those, then the whole thing would be questionable. Repeated over and over, as Blue mentioned Katz-Eye specifically mentions that their screen is not a cut down K3. Now perhaps they get their screen from the same place Nikon gets the K3 (You don't really believe Nikon makes every part of their camera), made to size according to Katz-Eye's request, I don't know, just speculating. Agree if they BS on the source perhaps all their claims are bogus. I am very happy with the FocusingScreens K3 and Ec-B that I already have and will not be paying a premium for any screen from Katz-Eye.

01-13-2010, 05:09 PM	#15
raider Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Perth, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,989	I know this thread is about the k10D. But anyone know which focusing screen (without shims) is suitable for the k100D? Thanks