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**Weevil** · 03-20-2018, 08:37 PM

Originally posted by dadipentak

Thanks for the ID! I'd think it's really too early (we're getting some nasty winter weather today) but there are always deviants testing the boundaries. Also, it's much larger than any fireflies we have in these parts.

The larvae can be a bit bigger thant the imago (adult stage)
after quick research seem from a larger species of genus Pyractomena
Genus Pyractomena - BugGuide.Net

Nice bug it is !

**dadipentak** · 03-21-2018, 05:08 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Weevil

The larvae can be a bit bigger thant the imago (adult stage)

Well, come to think of it, that only makes sense. It's just that with many (especially aquatic) insects, the imago appears to be more substantial.

Unregistered User · 03-21-2018, 09:02 AM

A little different perspective:

**WPRESTO** · 03-21-2018, 10:24 AM

Originally posted by Cipher

A little different perspective:

HA! Can't fool me. It's all done with mirrors.

**KC0PET** · 03-21-2018, 06:56 PM - **2 Likes**

A couple from last September

**noelcmn** · 03-22-2018, 04:09 AM - **3 Likes**

Saw this monster yesterday- Any help with ID?

**Tonytee** · 03-22-2018, 04:32 AM

Originally posted by WPRESTO

HA! Can't fool me. It's all done with mirrors.

Actually, we did fool you. It was all done with SMOKE and Mirrors.

))) You know me, couldn't resist. How is the struggle with OLD Man Winter going back there?

Guess what? I DO NOT MISS IT!!!!

TT

**dadipentak** · 03-22-2018, 05:12 AM

Originally posted by noelcmn

Saw this monster yesterday- Any help with ID?

Looks military!

**WPRESTO** · 03-22-2018, 05:43 AM

Originally posted by noelcmn

Saw this monster yesterday- Any help with ID?

Obviously a grasshopper (Orthoptera), but I don't think the bug-guide site I go to here has anything but North American insects.

Try www.projectnoah.org. I could not find a match there, but I think you can send the image and they will help with the id.

ADDENDUM: It's probably a nymph of something that's easier to identify as an adult. Of the images I went through, the nymph of a green-striped grasshopper looked somewhat similar.

**noelcmn** · 03-22-2018, 05:46 AM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by dadipentak

Looks military!

LOL! I agree.

Originally posted by WPRESTO

Obviously a grasshopper (Orthoptera), but I don't think the bug-guide site I go to here has anything but North American insects.

Have contacted Whatsthatbug, and wait to hear. They'r pretty helpful.

**noelcmn** · 03-22-2018, 10:42 AM

Originally posted by WPRESTO

Obviously a grasshopper (Orthoptera), but I don't think the bug-guide site I go to here has anything but North American insects.

Try www.projectnoah.org. I could not find a match there, but I think you can send the image and they will help with the id.

ADDENDUM: It's probably a nymph of something that's easier to identify as an adult. Of the images I went through, the nymph of a green-striped grasshopper looked somewhat similar.

Whatsthatbug replied, (how is that for service) and linked me to another website (ispotnature.org) where it is identified as a Rain Locust. This would be the flightless female, whereas the male has wings. Also called Shieldbacked Locusts. Taxonomy: Animalia / Arthropoda / Hexapoda / Insecta / Pterygota / Orthoptera / Caelifera / Acrididea / Acridoidea / Pamphagidae / Porthetinae

**WPRESTO** · 03-22-2018, 11:13 AM

Originally posted by noelcmn

Whatsthatbug replied, (how is that for service) and linked me to another website (ispotnature.org) where it is identified as a Rain Locust. This would be the flightless female, whereas the male has wings. Also called Shieldbacked Locusts. Taxonomy: Animalia / Arthropoda / Hexapoda / Insecta / Pterygota / Orthoptera / Caelifera / Acrididea / Acridoidea / Pamphagidae / Porthetinae

I've worked with animal (and some plant) taxonomy most of my adult life, but that list of categories is a bit of a gosh-golly nevertheless.

Back when I was in grad school working as a Teaching Assistant for a professor who was a molecular biologist, doing the labs while he lectured freshman introductory biology, I debated with him what was appropriate to teach to non-science majors in such a course. He argued that what they would value in the long run was sufficient knowledge of cutting-edge research to be able to read and understand anything that appeared in the science news section of the New York Times. I argued that they'd most appreciate knowing some basic plant-animal identification, so while walking on a beach they might pick up a snail and say: "This is a moon snail," or better still "This is Polinices," and being able to name it would give them both some connection with the gastropod and also personal pride and satisfaction for knowing something. Just knowing the name of something, to me, means that somehow I understand it or could easily learn more if I wished.

**noelcmn** · 03-22-2018, 11:29 AM

I've never been one for science, and names, let alone latin names. But I do know a few folk that remember such things with incredible precision. Some are scientists. Just tell me rain locust. Having said that, Google is incredible for info that suffers much from retentiveness.

**WPRESTO** · 03-22-2018, 12:02 PM - **1 Like**

A classic bee on a blossom. I wonder how many similar pictures Pentaxians have among their image files. The mind boggles.

**noelcmn** · 03-22-2018, 01:10 PM - **1 Like**

Let's invite other Pentaxians to add to the boggle

03-22-2018, 05:43 AM	#4104
WPRESTO Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Massachusetts Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 59,108	Originally posted by noelcmn Saw this monster yesterday- Any help with ID? Obviously a grasshopper (Orthoptera), but I don't think the bug-guide site I go to here has anything but North American insects. Try www.projectnoah.org. I could not find a match there, but I think you can send the image and they will help with the id. ADDENDUM: It's probably a nymph of something that's easier to identify as an adult. Of the images I went through, the nymph of a green-striped grasshopper looked somewhat similar. Last edited by WPRESTO; 03-22-2018 at 06:03 AM.

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03-20-2018, 08:37 PM	#4096
Weevil Site Supporter Join Date: May 2012 Location: Near Montréal, Québec Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,445	Originally posted by dadipentak Thanks for the ID! I'd think it's really too early (we're getting some nasty winter weather today) but there are always deviants testing the boundaries. Also, it's much larger than any fireflies we have in these parts. The larvae can be a bit bigger thant the imago (adult stage) after quick research seem from a larger species of genus Pyractomena Genus Pyractomena - BugGuide.Net Nice bug it is !

03-21-2018, 05:08 AM - 1 Like	#4097
dadipentak Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,590	Originally posted by Weevil The larvae can be a bit bigger thant the imago (adult stage) Well, come to think of it, that only makes sense. It's just that with many (especially aquatic) insects, the imago appears to be more substantial.

03-21-2018, 09:02 AM	#4098
Unregistered User Guest	A little different perspective:

03-21-2018, 10:24 AM	#4099
WPRESTO Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Massachusetts Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 59,108	Originally posted by Cipher A little different perspective: HA! Can't fool me. It's all done with mirrors.

03-21-2018, 06:56 PM - 2 Likes	#4100
KC0PET Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Central Missouri Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,273	A couple from last September

03-22-2018, 04:09 AM - 3 Likes	#4101
noelcmn Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: South Africa-Johannesburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 46,182	Saw this monster yesterday- Any help with ID?

03-22-2018, 04:32 AM	#4102
Tonytee Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2012 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 21,461	Originally posted by WPRESTO HA! Can't fool me. It's all done with mirrors. Actually, we did fool you. It was all done with SMOKE and Mirrors. ))) You know me, couldn't resist. How is the struggle with OLD Man Winter going back there? Guess what? I DO NOT MISS IT!!!! TT

03-22-2018, 05:12 AM	#4103
dadipentak Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,590	Originally posted by noelcmn Saw this monster yesterday- Any help with ID? Looks military!

03-22-2018, 05:46 AM - 3 Likes	#4105
noelcmn Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: South Africa-Johannesburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 46,182	Originally posted by dadipentak Looks military! LOL! I agree. Originally posted by WPRESTO Obviously a grasshopper (Orthoptera), but I don't think the bug-guide site I go to here has anything but North American insects. Have contacted Whatsthatbug, and wait to hear. They'r pretty helpful.

03-22-2018, 10:42 AM	#4106
noelcmn Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: South Africa-Johannesburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 46,182	Originally posted by WPRESTO Obviously a grasshopper (Orthoptera), but I don't think the bug-guide site I go to here has anything but North American insects. Try www.projectnoah.org. I could not find a match there, but I think you can send the image and they will help with the id. ADDENDUM: It's probably a nymph of something that's easier to identify as an adult. Of the images I went through, the nymph of a green-striped grasshopper looked somewhat similar. Whatsthatbug replied, (how is that for service) and linked me to another website (ispotnature.org) where it is identified as a Rain Locust. This would be the flightless female, whereas the male has wings. Also called Shieldbacked Locusts. Taxonomy: Animalia / Arthropoda / Hexapoda / Insecta / Pterygota / Orthoptera / Caelifera / Acrididea / Acridoidea / Pamphagidae / Porthetinae

03-22-2018, 11:13 AM	#4107
WPRESTO Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Massachusetts Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 59,108	Originally posted by noelcmn Whatsthatbug replied, (how is that for service) and linked me to another website (ispotnature.org) where it is identified as a Rain Locust. This would be the flightless female, whereas the male has wings. Also called Shieldbacked Locusts. Taxonomy: Animalia / Arthropoda / Hexapoda / Insecta / Pterygota / Orthoptera / Caelifera / Acrididea / Acridoidea / Pamphagidae / Porthetinae I've worked with animal (and some plant) taxonomy most of my adult life, but that list of categories is a bit of a gosh-golly nevertheless. Back when I was in grad school working as a Teaching Assistant for a professor who was a molecular biologist, doing the labs while he lectured freshman introductory biology, I debated with him what was appropriate to teach to non-science majors in such a course. He argued that what they would value in the long run was sufficient knowledge of cutting-edge research to be able to read and understand anything that appeared in the science news section of the New York Times. I argued that they'd most appreciate knowing some basic plant-animal identification, so while walking on a beach they might pick up a snail and say: "This is a moon snail," or better still "This is Polinices," and being able to name it would give them both some connection with the gastropod and also personal pride and satisfaction for knowing something. Just knowing the name of something, to me, means that somehow I understand it or could easily learn more if I wished.

03-22-2018, 11:29 AM	#4108
noelcmn Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: South Africa-Johannesburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 46,182	I've never been one for science, and names, let alone latin names. But I do know a few folk that remember such things with incredible precision. Some are scientists. Just tell me rain locust. Having said that, Google is incredible for info that suffers much from retentiveness.

03-22-2018, 01:10 PM - 1 Like	#4110
noelcmn Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: South Africa-Johannesburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 46,182	Let's invite other Pentaxians to add to the boggle