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Thagomizer · 05-29-2019, 09:27 AM

Originally posted by redpit

Great images!

Thank you. It looks rather imperial on the flower head.

swanlefitte · 05-29-2019, 09:40 AM

Originally posted by WPRESTO

A really handsome beetle. Never seen one before in this area.

I think it is a dogbane.

swanlefitte · 05-29-2019, 09:44 AM

Originally posted by Thagomizer

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We get them around here. Photogenic but destructive.

There were swarms of these in Minneapolis. About 50 on a rose bush and all over trees and on the ground where I stayed.

Great photos.

**TER-OR** · 05-29-2019, 10:50 AM

Originally posted by swanlefitte

There were swarms of these in Minneapolis. About 50 on a rose bush and all over trees and on the ground where I stayed.

Great photos.

If they're dogbane beetles they're not so likely to be destroying the roses, that's probably Japanese Beetles. Dogbane beetles mostly eat dogbane (Indian Hemp) and occasionally milkweed. Dogbane is closely related to milkweed.

Note the lack of stripes on the abdomen and fully bronze green Elytra which wrap around the sides of the abdomen. Dogbane Beetles are beautiful.

Japanese Beetles have the browner Elytra and those distinctive spots/stripes on the abdomen.
Japanese beetle - Wikipedia

Japanese Beetles are notorious for destroying Asian-origin plants like domestic roses.

swanlefitte · 05-29-2019, 11:26 AM

They were Japanese beetles. They have a square green head. The dogbane head is just kinda an extention to the round top.

**WPRESTO** · 05-29-2019, 03:23 PM

Originally posted by Thagomizer

Looks like a Japanes Beetle. Or a variation thereof.

Definitely neither a Japanese beetle nor a dogbane beetle, both of which I know well.. I've been too busy with a home improvement project to chase down an ID but I'll get to it.

FOLLOWUP. This is probably Euphoria fulgida = green scarab beetle, or a closely related species. The images I've found of E. fulgida show a green rather than red triangle between the front ends of the elytra, but the color of this species is variable and includes forms that are blue rather than green.

**JensE** · 05-30-2019, 04:04 AM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by Skodadriver

Hopefully it was on a holiday and has gone home.

Don't worry about it. They're really calm usually. I got stung during the shoot for the below portrait (a 4MP crop out of a 1:1 shot) - but by a German (or Saxonian) wasp! The immediate pain with hornets comes from a rather large stinger, but otherwise they are said to have less toxin than e.g. a honey bee.

I really like their eyes.

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**WPRESTO** · 05-30-2019, 08:40 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by swanlefitte

I think it is a dogbane.

FYI: ALSO POSTED WITH THE IMAGE OF THE BEETLE

FOLLOWUP. This is probably Euphoria fulgida = green scarab beetle, or a closely related species. The images I've found of E. fulgida show a green rather than red triangle between the front ends of the elytra, but the color of this species is variable and includes forms that are blue rather than green.

**ffking** · 05-31-2019, 12:00 AM - **4 Likes**

A brown shield bug on a strawberry leaf (K-3 + F 100:2.8 macro)

**ffking** · 05-31-2019, 02:47 AM

Originally posted by WPRESTO

Definitely neither a Japanese beetle nor a dogbane beetle, both of which I know well.. I've been too busy with a home improvement project to chase down an ID but I'll get to it.

FOLLOWUP. This is probably Euphoria fulgida = green scarab beetle, or a closely related species. The images I've found of E. fulgida show a green rather than red triangle between the front ends of the elytra, but the color of this species is variable and includes forms that are blue rather than green.

Looks to me like a close relative of what we call a rose chafer - Cetonia aurata - I'd say same family if not genus

**WPRESTO** · 05-31-2019, 05:29 AM

Originally posted by ffking

Looks to me like a close relative of what we call a rose chafer - Cetonia aurata - I'd say same family if not genus

C. aurata is also a scarab, but as best I can determine it does not occur in North America (strange, as climate and available roses should insure its success). However, C. aurata commonly has white streaks cross-wise on the elytra and the one I found does have white spots. C. a. is certainly a good match, but I'll need to check further to see if it has invaded NA.

FOLLOWUP: I just found a definitive statement that Cetonia aurata is not known in NA. There is an "American rose chafer" but it is very different in appearance, certainly not the beetle I found.

photolady95 · 05-31-2019, 05:37 AM

Next months SIC is an A 50mm f2, coupled with a Raynox DCR-250 and I've ordered a gorilla pod like tripod to help hold camera steady and get lower to the ground. Hopefully I'll get some bugs this next month.

Arjay Bee · 05-31-2019, 05:27 PM

Originally posted by JensE

The immediate pain with hornets comes from a rather large stinger, but otherwise they are said to have less toxin than e.g. a honey bee.

The hornets find me on a seemingly regular basis as I do yard work. Yup they hurt but it passes quickly. Provided one doesn't have an allergy and end up in anaphylactic shock.

Arjay Bee · 06-01-2019, 03:25 AM

And here is another stinger:

k3&Tamron 90 Macro

**WPRESTO** · 06-01-2019, 05:02 AM

A tine parasitic wasp (?) on a wild geranium. Deep crop from a much wider image.

05-29-2019, 03:23 PM	#5406
WPRESTO Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Massachusetts Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 59,104	Originally posted by Thagomizer Looks like a Japanes Beetle. Or a variation thereof. Definitely neither a Japanese beetle nor a dogbane beetle, both of which I know well.. I've been too busy with a home improvement project to chase down an ID but I'll get to it. FOLLOWUP. This is probably Euphoria fulgida = green scarab beetle, or a closely related species. The images I've found of E. fulgida show a green rather than red triangle between the front ends of the elytra, but the color of this species is variable and includes forms that are blue rather than green. Last edited by WPRESTO; 05-30-2019 at 08:42 AM.

05-31-2019, 05:29 AM	#5411
WPRESTO Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Massachusetts Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 59,104	Originally posted by ffking Looks to me like a close relative of what we call a rose chafer - Cetonia aurata - I'd say same family if not genus C. aurata is also a scarab, but as best I can determine it does not occur in North America (strange, as climate and available roses should insure its success). However, C. aurata commonly has white streaks cross-wise on the elytra and the one I found does have white spots. C. a. is certainly a good match, but I'll need to check further to see if it has invaded NA. FOLLOWUP: I just found a definitive statement that Cetonia aurata is not known in NA. There is an "American rose chafer" but it is very different in appearance, certainly not the beetle I found. Last edited by WPRESTO; 05-31-2019 at 05:37 AM.

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05-29-2019, 09:27 AM	#5401
Thagomizer Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: London Ontario Posts: 2,068	Originally posted by redpit Great images! Thank you. It looks rather imperial on the flower head.

05-29-2019, 09:40 AM	#5402
swanlefitte Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Location: Minneapolis Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,068	Originally posted by WPRESTO A really handsome beetle. Never seen one before in this area. I think it is a dogbane.

05-29-2019, 09:44 AM	#5403
swanlefitte Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Location: Minneapolis Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,068	Originally posted by Thagomizer . We get them around here. Photogenic but destructive. There were swarms of these in Minneapolis. About 50 on a rose bush and all over trees and on the ground where I stayed. Great photos.

05-29-2019, 10:50 AM	#5404
TER-OR Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Dundee, IL Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,699	Originally posted by swanlefitte There were swarms of these in Minneapolis. About 50 on a rose bush and all over trees and on the ground where I stayed. Great photos. If they're dogbane beetles they're not so likely to be destroying the roses, that's probably Japanese Beetles. Dogbane beetles mostly eat dogbane (Indian Hemp) and occasionally milkweed. Dogbane is closely related to milkweed. Note the lack of stripes on the abdomen and fully bronze green Elytra which wrap around the sides of the abdomen. Dogbane Beetles are beautiful. Japanese Beetles have the browner Elytra and those distinctive spots/stripes on the abdomen. Japanese beetle - Wikipedia Japanese Beetles are notorious for destroying Asian-origin plants like domestic roses.

05-29-2019, 11:26 AM	#5405
swanlefitte Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Location: Minneapolis Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,068	They were Japanese beetles. They have a square green head. The dogbane head is just kinda an extention to the round top.

05-30-2019, 08:40 AM - 1 Like	#5408
WPRESTO Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Massachusetts Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 59,104	Originally posted by swanlefitte I think it is a dogbane. FYI: ALSO POSTED WITH THE IMAGE OF THE BEETLE FOLLOWUP. This is probably Euphoria fulgida = green scarab beetle, or a closely related species. The images I've found of E. fulgida show a green rather than red triangle between the front ends of the elytra, but the color of this species is variable and includes forms that are blue rather than green.

05-31-2019, 12:00 AM - 4 Likes	#5409
ffking Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Old South Wales Posts: 6,038	A brown shield bug on a strawberry leaf (K-3 + F 100:2.8 macro)

05-31-2019, 02:47 AM	#5410
ffking Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Old South Wales Posts: 6,038	Originally posted by WPRESTO Definitely neither a Japanese beetle nor a dogbane beetle, both of which I know well.. I've been too busy with a home improvement project to chase down an ID but I'll get to it. FOLLOWUP. This is probably Euphoria fulgida = green scarab beetle, or a closely related species. The images I've found of E. fulgida show a green rather than red triangle between the front ends of the elytra, but the color of this species is variable and includes forms that are blue rather than green. Looks to me like a close relative of what we call a rose chafer - Cetonia aurata - I'd say same family if not genus

05-31-2019, 05:37 AM	#5412
photolady95 Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Cruising the forum watching his back Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,712 Original Poster	Next months SIC is an A 50mm f2, coupled with a Raynox DCR-250 and I've ordered a gorilla pod like tripod to help hold camera steady and get lower to the ground. Hopefully I'll get some bugs this next month.

05-31-2019, 05:27 PM	#5413
Arjay Bee Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Horn Island, Torres Straits, Q Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,715	Originally posted by JensE The immediate pain with hornets comes from a rather large stinger, but otherwise they are said to have less toxin than e.g. a honey bee. The hornets find me on a seemingly regular basis as I do yard work. Yup they hurt but it passes quickly. Provided one doesn't have an allergy and end up in anaphylactic shock.

06-01-2019, 03:25 AM	#5414
Arjay Bee Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Horn Island, Torres Straits, Q Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,715	And here is another stinger: k3&Tamron 90 Macro