Game Single In - October, 2018

**robgski** · 10-03-2018, 05:31 AM - **1 Like**

I've had good results with M42 lenses on my K-5, so I encourage you to look for a used one and go with it. I mostly use the optical viewfinder out of decades of habit so lack of focus peaking does not bother me.

If you can find a copy of the 17mm Takumar Fisheye, get it. I love my copy, I use it all the time on my K-5, and when I've rented the K-1, it has been exceptional.

**pepperberry farm** · 10-03-2018, 05:46 AM

Originally posted by robgski

I've had good results with M42 lenses on my K-5, so I encourage you to look for a used one and go with it. I mostly use the optical viewfinder out of decades of habit so lack of focus peaking does not bother me.

If you can find a copy of the 17mm Takumar Fisheye, get it. I love my copy, I use it all the time on my K-5, and when I've rented the K-1, it has been exceptional.

all of that still an option... I was wondering if focus peaking is that big of a deal, since I'm not using it now....

**robgski** · 10-03-2018, 05:54 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by pepperberry farm

I was wondering if focus peaking is that big of a deal, since I'm not using it now....

Except for the brief time I owned a Canon AE-1, the only SLR's I'd used were K-1000's, and I learned to appreciate their no-frills functionality. I accidentally dropped my Canon into the Persian Gulf, and went back to another K-1000, the lack of any automation or assistance made me a slower and better photographer. The K-5 was my first DSLR, and other than shooting AV, I don't use many other feature, I'm too lazy to RTFM. Still, as long as I have an OVF, a light meter and a good sensor couple to good glass, I'm happy.

utak · 10-03-2018, 06:32 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by pepperberry farm

but am thinking that a K-01 may be an option also...

I love the results I get from the K-01/sensor, but for many MF lenses, especially outside, the lack of a Viewfinder is a PITA, even with back screen focus peaking, and I recommend you avoid. My K-01's focus peaking was a little erratic (comparing what I thought I was focusing on and how it turned out back at base), and I didn't feel I could rely on it.

The K-3 remains the best cropped camera I've used with M42 lenses. For what it does, the Sony A6000 is excellent value, with good focus and exposure support through the EVF...but disappointingly for me anyway, I haven't had much success using old lenses with the e-mount to M42 adapter, particularly near or closer to infinity.

Speaking of old lenses, here is a photo of the Takumar 200/3.5 I'm using this month. Thought I should get a few photos of it before the gold quality control sticker wears off! The lens, as you can see, is quite long, and it's the length (not weight) that causes the most problems hand held. There's a reason it came with a tripod collar.

Last edited by utak; 10-03-2018 at 10:40 PM.

**pepperberry farm** · 10-03-2018, 06:39 AM

Originally posted by utak

I love the results I get from the K-01/sensor, but for many MF lenses, especially outside, the lack of a OVF is a PITA, even with back screen focus peaking, and I recommend you avoid. My K-01's focus peaking was a little erratic (comparing what I thought I was focusing on and how it turned out back at base), and I didn't feel I could rely on it.

The K-3 remains the best cropped camera I've used with M42 lenses. For what it does, the Sony A6000 is excellent value, with good focus and exposure support through the EVF...but disappointingly for me anyway, I haven't had much success using old lenses with the e-mount to M42 adapter, particularly near or closer to infinity.

I've been reading about A-body cameras also - NEX vs A, etc.... until more recent bodies, none had SR (or IBIS) though, correct?

utak · 10-03-2018, 06:50 AM

Originally posted by pepperberry farm

I've been reading about A-body cameras also - NEX vs A, etc.... until more recent bodies, none had SR (or IBIS) though, correct?

That's right, once you get to the A6500 you get IBIS, but it's a big step up in price. (Not sure about IBIS on all A7 bodies). The kit lens with the A6000, and some other Sony lenses have in-lens stabilisation (OSS). I've used OSS and non-stabilised lenses, and quite frankly the OSS makes no perceivable difference to me for stills. For video, OSS becomes more useful.

**pepperberry farm** · 10-03-2018, 06:58 AM

Originally posted by utak

That's right, once you get to the A6500 you get IBIS, but it's a big step up in price. (Not sure about IBIS on all A7 bodies). The kit lens with the A6000, and some other Sony lenses have in-lens stabilisation (OSS). I've used OSS and non-stabilised lenses, and quite frankly the OSS makes no perceivable difference to me for stills. For video, OSS becomes more useful.

thank you - as I've said before, I'm not using focus peaking now, so don't feel that I am really missing out on it.... but am open to using it in the future....

**babywriter** · 10-03-2018, 08:47 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by pepperberry farm

I've been reading about A-body cameras also - NEX vs A, etc....

I'd love to pick up an inexpensive Fuji X-series body, but "inexpensive" and "X-series" don't seem to exist in the same universe....

**pepperberry farm** · 10-03-2018, 08:54 AM - **1 Like**

thank you all for the advice; I think I have talked myself out of a K-01, mainly due to a lack of viewfinder and the K-01's near-uselessness in bright sunlight.... I spend way too much time outside to not be able to see through the camera to focus and compose shots...

back to the hunt for a K-5IIS...

EDIT

hunt over - found a copy of a K-5 IIS with a shutter count of 281; should be here in a few days...

**robbiec** · 10-03-2018, 01:49 PM - **1 Like**

Budget in an O-ME53

, cheapest and probably best accessory for a manual lens.

**pepperberry farm** · 10-03-2018, 01:55 PM

Originally posted by robbiec

Budget in an O-ME53

, cheapest and probably best accessory for a manual lens.

agreed - I have one on both K-3's and have seen my keeper rate increase...

**UncleVanya** · 10-03-2018, 02:48 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by robbiec

Budget in an O-ME53

, cheapest and probably best accessory for a manual lens.

Originally posted by pepperberry farm

agreed - I have one on both K-3's and have seen my keeper rate increase...

I wear glasses and I took mine off my K-3. I just couldn't love having to move my head around to see everything and it gave me a false perspective on my shots (making me crop more than I thought I would need to). On the other hand I also really don't love manual focus even with it on modern DSLR's.

**pepperberry farm** · 10-03-2018, 03:11 PM

Originally posted by UncleVanya

I wear glasses and I took mine off my K-3. I just couldn't love having to move my head around to see everything and it gave me a false perspective on my shots (making me crop more than I thought I would need to). On the other hand I also really don't love manual focus even with it on modern DSLR's.

as much as I enjoy the flexibility of AF on my K-3, the challenge of MF is even better....

Sandy Hancock · 10-03-2018, 08:14 PM

Sorry peeps. I'm gonna bail. Enjoy.

**Minimonster** · 10-03-2018, 11:11 PM

Originally posted by Sandy Hancock

Sorry peeps. I'm gonna bail. Enjoy.

Shame! I was enjoying the pictures from that awesome lens...

10-03-2018, 08:54 AM - 1 Like	#84
pepperberry farm amateur dirt farmer Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: probably out in a field somewhere... Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 41,645	thank you all for the advice; I think I have talked myself out of a K-01, mainly due to a lack of viewfinder and the K-01's near-uselessness in bright sunlight.... I spend way too much time outside to not be able to see through the camera to focus and compose shots... back to the hunt for a K-5IIS... EDIT hunt over - found a copy of a K-5 IIS with a shutter count of 281; should be here in a few days... Last edited by pepperberry farm; 10-03-2018 at 01:46 PM.

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10-03-2018, 05:31 AM - 1 Like	#76
robgski Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Shenandoah Valley, Virginia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,794	I've had good results with M42 lenses on my K-5, so I encourage you to look for a used one and go with it. I mostly use the optical viewfinder out of decades of habit so lack of focus peaking does not bother me. If you can find a copy of the 17mm Takumar Fisheye, get it. I love my copy, I use it all the time on my K-5, and when I've rented the K-1, it has been exceptional.

10-03-2018, 05:46 AM	#77
pepperberry farm amateur dirt farmer Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: probably out in a field somewhere... Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 41,645	Originally posted by robgski I've had good results with M42 lenses on my K-5, so I encourage you to look for a used one and go with it. I mostly use the optical viewfinder out of decades of habit so lack of focus peaking does not bother me. If you can find a copy of the 17mm Takumar Fisheye, get it. I love my copy, I use it all the time on my K-5, and when I've rented the K-1, it has been exceptional. all of that still an option... I was wondering if focus peaking is that big of a deal, since I'm not using it now....

10-03-2018, 05:54 AM - 1 Like	#78
robgski Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Shenandoah Valley, Virginia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,794	Originally posted by pepperberry farm I was wondering if focus peaking is that big of a deal, since I'm not using it now.... Except for the brief time I owned a Canon AE-1, the only SLR's I'd used were K-1000's, and I learned to appreciate their no-frills functionality. I accidentally dropped my Canon into the Persian Gulf, and went back to another K-1000, the lack of any automation or assistance made me a slower and better photographer. The K-5 was my first DSLR, and other than shooting AV, I don't use many other feature, I'm too lazy to RTFM. Still, as long as I have an OVF, a light meter and a good sensor couple to good glass, I'm happy.

10-03-2018, 06:32 AM - 1 Like	#79
utak Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2012 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 928	Originally posted by pepperberry farm but am thinking that a K-01 may be an option also... I love the results I get from the K-01/sensor, but for many MF lenses, especially outside, the lack of a Viewfinder is a PITA, even with back screen focus peaking, and I recommend you avoid. My K-01's focus peaking was a little erratic (comparing what I thought I was focusing on and how it turned out back at base), and I didn't feel I could rely on it. The K-3 remains the best cropped camera I've used with M42 lenses. For what it does, the Sony A6000 is excellent value, with good focus and exposure support through the EVF...but disappointingly for me anyway, I haven't had much success using old lenses with the e-mount to M42 adapter, particularly near or closer to infinity. Speaking of old lenses, here is a photo of the Takumar 200/3.5 I'm using this month. Thought I should get a few photos of it before the gold quality control sticker wears off! The lens, as you can see, is quite long, and it's the length (not weight) that causes the most problems hand held. There's a reason it came with a tripod collar. Last edited by utak; 10-03-2018 at 10:40 PM.

10-03-2018, 06:39 AM	#80
pepperberry farm amateur dirt farmer Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: probably out in a field somewhere... Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 41,645	Originally posted by utak I love the results I get from the K-01/sensor, but for many MF lenses, especially outside, the lack of a OVF is a PITA, even with back screen focus peaking, and I recommend you avoid. My K-01's focus peaking was a little erratic (comparing what I thought I was focusing on and how it turned out back at base), and I didn't feel I could rely on it. The K-3 remains the best cropped camera I've used with M42 lenses. For what it does, the Sony A6000 is excellent value, with good focus and exposure support through the EVF...but disappointingly for me anyway, I haven't had much success using old lenses with the e-mount to M42 adapter, particularly near or closer to infinity. I've been reading about A-body cameras also - NEX vs A, etc.... until more recent bodies, none had SR (or IBIS) though, correct?

10-03-2018, 06:50 AM	#81
utak Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2012 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 928	Originally posted by pepperberry farm I've been reading about A-body cameras also - NEX vs A, etc.... until more recent bodies, none had SR (or IBIS) though, correct? That's right, once you get to the A6500 you get IBIS, but it's a big step up in price. (Not sure about IBIS on all A7 bodies). The kit lens with the A6000, and some other Sony lenses have in-lens stabilisation (OSS). I've used OSS and non-stabilised lenses, and quite frankly the OSS makes no perceivable difference to me for stills. For video, OSS becomes more useful.

10-03-2018, 06:58 AM	#82
pepperberry farm amateur dirt farmer Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: probably out in a field somewhere... Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 41,645	Originally posted by utak That's right, once you get to the A6500 you get IBIS, but it's a big step up in price. (Not sure about IBIS on all A7 bodies). The kit lens with the A6000, and some other Sony lenses have in-lens stabilisation (OSS). I've used OSS and non-stabilised lenses, and quite frankly the OSS makes no perceivable difference to me for stills. For video, OSS becomes more useful. thank you - as I've said before, I'm not using focus peaking now, so don't feel that I am really missing out on it.... but am open to using it in the future....

10-03-2018, 08:47 AM - 1 Like	#83
babywriter Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: central Iowa Photos: Gallery Posts: 969 Original Poster	Originally posted by pepperberry farm I've been reading about A-body cameras also - NEX vs A, etc.... I'd love to pick up an inexpensive Fuji X-series body, but "inexpensive" and "X-series" don't seem to exist in the same universe....

10-03-2018, 01:49 PM - 1 Like	#85
robbiec Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Cork Photos: Albums Posts: 1,882	Budget in an O-ME53 , cheapest and probably best accessory for a manual lens.

10-03-2018, 01:55 PM	#86
pepperberry farm amateur dirt farmer Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: probably out in a field somewhere... Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 41,645	Originally posted by robbiec Budget in an O-ME53 , cheapest and probably best accessory for a manual lens. agreed - I have one on both K-3's and have seen my keeper rate increase...

10-03-2018, 02:48 PM - 1 Like	#87
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,398	Originally posted by robbiec Budget in an O-ME53 , cheapest and probably best accessory for a manual lens. Originally posted by pepperberry farm agreed - I have one on both K-3's and have seen my keeper rate increase... I wear glasses and I took mine off my K-3. I just couldn't love having to move my head around to see everything and it gave me a false perspective on my shots (making me crop more than I thought I would need to). On the other hand I also really don't love manual focus even with it on modern DSLR's.

10-03-2018, 03:11 PM	#88
pepperberry farm amateur dirt farmer Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: probably out in a field somewhere... Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 41,645	Originally posted by UncleVanya I wear glasses and I took mine off my K-3. I just couldn't love having to move my head around to see everything and it gave me a false perspective on my shots (making me crop more than I thought I would need to). On the other hand I also really don't love manual focus even with it on modern DSLR's. as much as I enjoy the flexibility of AF on my K-3, the challenge of MF is even better....

10-03-2018, 08:14 PM	#89
Sandy Hancock Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Adelaide Hills, South Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,269	Sorry peeps. I'm gonna bail. Enjoy.

10-03-2018, 11:11 PM	#90
Minimonster Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2018 Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,065	Originally posted by Sandy Hancock Sorry peeps. I'm gonna bail. Enjoy. Shame! I was enjoying the pictures from that awesome lens...

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