Game Daily in November 2019 - Discussion Thread

**UncleVanya** · 11-01-2019, 10:39 AM

Originally posted by cg57

No worries ... I'm sure it's an open book quiz ...

NO QUIZZES!!!! It was in my contract! Open book still means I have to do something.

Can I have someone else sit in and take it for me?

**djb47** · 11-01-2019, 11:13 AM - **2 Likes**

I'll give it a go for Nov. Some mono and some color probably.

**OzzRod** · 11-01-2019, 01:29 PM

Originally posted by wstruth

... I learned alot from ... an Adorama video on how to zone process a black and white image.

Using Zones for Black and White Photography: Exploring Photography with Mark Wallace: AdoramaTV - YouTube

Thanks Bill. Useful viewing.

**cg57** · 11-01-2019, 04:02 PM

well, I got my little sony ('im thinking of calling him Sammy) off to get it's conversion. I'll be picking up a filter and PK to NEX mount adapter. Sad part is between in route and turn around time it will be about 3 weeks before I get it back.

**Asgardian** · 11-01-2019, 04:07 PM - **1 Like**

Oh wow - November already. Getting caught up today and doing my best to keep up in November.

**Minimonster** · 11-01-2019, 06:15 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by cg57

well, I got my little sony ('im thinking of calling him Sammy) off to get it's conversion. I'll be picking up a filter and PK to NEX mount adapter. Sad part is between in route and turn around time it will be about 3 weeks before I get it back.

Perfect for December then!

aaacb · 11-01-2019, 06:22 PM

If it's acceptable for the challenge (?), I think I'll update multiple days at once, I usually leave a few days to accumulate on the card before editing.

**UncleVanya** · 11-01-2019, 07:37 PM - **1 Like**

Oh dear. I just realized I haven't made a shot yet...

wstruth · 11-02-2019, 05:34 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by aaacb

If it's acceptable for the challenge (?), I think I'll update multiple days at once, I usually leave a few days to accumulate on the card before editing.

It's okay, although you'll get more consistent feedback if you post daily. That's one of the benefits about this challenge.

---------- Post added 11-02-19 at 08:37 AM ----------

Originally posted by UncleVanya

Oh dear. I just realized I haven't made a shot yet...

Yeah I'm posting late too. I was out late and remembered to take pics on the way to dinner.

**cg57** · 11-02-2019, 06:31 AM

Originally posted by aaacb

If it's acceptable for the challenge (?), I think I'll update multiple days at once, I usually leave a few days to accumulate on the card before editing.

what Bill said. no pressure to post daily, just better feedback...
I find there are times I get a shot, sometimes a safety shot in and post later.
Keeping it fun but learning and growing, too, is what I find here in Daily In

**UncleVanya** · 11-02-2019, 06:53 AM

Originally posted by wstruth

Yeah I'm posting late too. I was out late and remembered to take pics on the way to dinner.

I made it work, phew! I prefer to start off the effort on the right foot! Faltering is always an option, but it would be sad if it was on day one!

**cg57** · 11-02-2019, 10:46 AM

these are the two shots
processed in LR

processed in Nik Sliver

**OzzRod** · 11-02-2019, 01:15 PM

Originally posted by cg57

these are the two shots
processed in LR

processed in Nik Sliver

My goodness, they are so similar. I presume you were using sliders etc in NIK, rather than presets.

graeme83 · 11-02-2019, 01:26 PM

I've been uploading in camera/phone edits to Flickr but not posted anything to the group yet. Been enjoying some delightfully grim weather down on the Isle of Wight, think it hit over 100mph winds on the west coast (needles) today and I wasn't that far away.
The little GR put up a great effort to get some shots whilst being battered by wind and spray, not much thought into composition rather just grabbed what I could before retreating back to the car.

**cg57** · 11-02-2019, 03:17 PM

Originally posted by OzzRod

My goodness, they are so similar. I presume you were using sliders etc in NIK, rather than presets.

yes. I open my raw files in DXO now. I de-clicked the smart lighting DXO has and xported the image into nik Silver Effex. I played with the brightness and contrast on this one because it was so close to what I wanted. I don't remember if I did added micro-contrast in DXO or not before exporting into Nik....

For LR, I tried to adjust similar to the video. LR allows you to adjust the whites as DXO and Nik does not. It didn't seem to make much difference. I thought I would pull cleaner whites out but it didn't. One thing I do like in LR is the ability to sharpen just edges. I made a slight adjustment there just to see if it added any value. It's fairly negligible.

I think the value in LR from the video is using the brush to lighten the detail in the lock.

A final thought ... it was also about incorporating the zone system as much as possible. Either program can do that.

I'm not sure what Silver Effex does to data when importing it because the B&W toggle in DXO doesn't give me the same richness as Silver Effex. And I haven't played with it enough. I do know that when I used Raw Therapy (the program Todd uses) you could achieve great B&W results. I think I stopped using that one because I couldn't export it to Silver Efex and I really wanted to. I know there's a way to do that but my old computer wasn't letting me. Once I got my lap top, I already had LR.

In the end, each program has it merits. Finding one that suits your needs and likes is what it's really all about.

11-02-2019, 03:17 PM	#60
cg57 Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2015 Photos: Albums Posts: 1,133	Originally posted by OzzRod My goodness, they are so similar. I presume you were using sliders etc in NIK, rather than presets. yes. I open my raw files in DXO now. I de-clicked the smart lighting DXO has and xported the image into nik Silver Effex. I played with the brightness and contrast on this one because it was so close to what I wanted. I don't remember if I did added micro-contrast in DXO or not before exporting into Nik.... For LR, I tried to adjust similar to the video. LR allows you to adjust the whites as DXO and Nik does not. It didn't seem to make much difference. I thought I would pull cleaner whites out but it didn't. One thing I do like in LR is the ability to sharpen just edges. I made a slight adjustment there just to see if it added any value. It's fairly negligible. I think the value in LR from the video is using the brush to lighten the detail in the lock. A final thought ... it was also about incorporating the zone system as much as possible. Either program can do that. I'm not sure what Silver Effex does to data when importing it because the B&W toggle in DXO doesn't give me the same richness as Silver Effex. And I haven't played with it enough. I do know that when I used Raw Therapy (the program Todd uses) you could achieve great B&W results. I think I stopped using that one because I couldn't export it to Silver Efex and I really wanted to. I know there's a way to do that but my old computer wasn't letting me. Once I got my lap top, I already had LR. In the end, each program has it merits. Finding one that suits your needs and likes is what it's really all about. Last edited by cg57; 11-02-2019 at 03:28 PM.

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11-01-2019, 10:39 AM	#46
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,407	Originally posted by cg57 No worries ... I'm sure it's an open book quiz ... NO QUIZZES!!!! It was in my contract! Open book still means I have to do something. Can I have someone else sit in and take it for me?

11-01-2019, 11:13 AM - 2 Likes	#47
djb47 Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Lenoir, NC Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,561	I'll give it a go for Nov. Some mono and some color probably.

11-01-2019, 01:29 PM	#48
OzzRod Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Newcastle, N.S.W. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,322 Original Poster	Originally posted by wstruth ... I learned alot from ... an Adorama video on how to zone process a black and white image. Using Zones for Black and White Photography: Exploring Photography with Mark Wallace: AdoramaTV - YouTube Thanks Bill. Useful viewing.

11-01-2019, 04:02 PM	#49
cg57 Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2015 Photos: Albums Posts: 1,133	well, I got my little sony ('im thinking of calling him Sammy) off to get it's conversion. I'll be picking up a filter and PK to NEX mount adapter. Sad part is between in route and turn around time it will be about 3 weeks before I get it back.

11-01-2019, 04:07 PM - 1 Like	#50
Asgardian Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Beautiful British Columbia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 78	Oh wow - November already. Getting caught up today and doing my best to keep up in November.

11-01-2019, 06:15 PM - 1 Like	#51
Minimonster Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2018 Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,065	Originally posted by cg57 well, I got my little sony ('im thinking of calling him Sammy) off to get it's conversion. I'll be picking up a filter and PK to NEX mount adapter. Sad part is between in route and turn around time it will be about 3 weeks before I get it back. Perfect for December then!

11-01-2019, 06:22 PM	#52
aaacb Pentaxian Join Date: May 2016 Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,725	If it's acceptable for the challenge (?), I think I'll update multiple days at once, I usually leave a few days to accumulate on the card before editing.

11-01-2019, 07:37 PM - 1 Like	#53
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,407	Oh dear. I just realized I haven't made a shot yet...

11-02-2019, 05:34 AM - 1 Like	#54
wstruth Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: at my kitchen table Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,294	Originally posted by aaacb If it's acceptable for the challenge (?), I think I'll update multiple days at once, I usually leave a few days to accumulate on the card before editing. It's okay, although you'll get more consistent feedback if you post daily. That's one of the benefits about this challenge. ---------- Post added 11-02-19 at 08:37 AM ---------- Originally posted by UncleVanya Oh dear. I just realized I haven't made a shot yet... Yeah I'm posting late too. I was out late and remembered to take pics on the way to dinner.

11-02-2019, 06:31 AM	#55
cg57 Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2015 Photos: Albums Posts: 1,133	Originally posted by aaacb If it's acceptable for the challenge (?), I think I'll update multiple days at once, I usually leave a few days to accumulate on the card before editing. what Bill said. no pressure to post daily, just better feedback... I find there are times I get a shot, sometimes a safety shot in and post later. Keeping it fun but learning and growing, too, is what I find here in Daily In

11-02-2019, 06:53 AM	#56
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,407	Originally posted by wstruth Yeah I'm posting late too. I was out late and remembered to take pics on the way to dinner. I made it work, phew! I prefer to start off the effort on the right foot! Faltering is always an option, but it would be sad if it was on day one!

11-02-2019, 10:46 AM	#57
cg57 Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2015 Photos: Albums Posts: 1,133	these are the two shots processed in LR processed in Nik Sliver

11-02-2019, 01:15 PM	#58
OzzRod Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Newcastle, N.S.W. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,322 Original Poster	Originally posted by cg57 these are the two shots processed in LR processed in Nik Sliver My goodness, they are so similar. I presume you were using sliders etc in NIK, rather than presets.

11-02-2019, 01:26 PM	#59
graeme83 Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Cheshire Posts: 737	I've been uploading in camera/phone edits to Flickr but not posted anything to the group yet. Been enjoying some delightfully grim weather down on the Isle of Wight, think it hit over 100mph winds on the west coast (needles) today and I wasn't that far away. The little GR put up a great effort to get some shots whilst being battered by wind and spray, not much thought into composition rather just grabbed what I could before retreating back to the car.