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07-09-2016, 07:52 AM   #736
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That 737 has advanced a long way from its original plan of some 60 passengers and short haul. It grew to not only eclipse the 727, but also the original 707 mainliner. It appears to me that this is now the replacement for the 757 as well. This is truly a good example of evolution, rather than the revolution of the 787. Without the huge advances in engine power and economy this would not have been possible.

As an example, this DC8 belonged to the company I flew for. It was the first and only subsonic airliner to break the sound barrier, before the supersonics arrived. It had four Rolls Royce Conway engines of 20000lbs thrust each. They were noisy and inefficient. If we had to fly 4000 feet lower than planned, fuel consumption went up 5%. Now one engine on the 777 puts out what the four Conways did. However, you won't see one break the sound barrier any time soon. Google DC8 supersonic.
Boeing did plan to replace the 757 with the 737 800s and 900s but I've read that the airlines aren't happy because they lack the range of the 757. So now Boeing is planning a 757 replacement possibly based on 787 technology,

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So now Boeing is planning a 757 replacement possibly based on 787 technology,


I have heard this also, from 'inside' the company.
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When these were taken in 1966, I never imagined I would become an example of "the olden days." We did a charter around Australia with this DC3. These shots taken at a settlement NW of Alice Springs (Yuendemu). We had to taxi close to the refuel bowser, you can see the captain at it on the far left, while I am on the wing opening the refuel hatch.
We were so close to the bowser because the hose wouldn't reach the plane. As a result, we had the passengers help push the plane back so it could have room to turn.
This was flying without benefit of radio aids, and it was easy to get lost if you were no vigilant.


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Love the DC3 pix. Was the plane named after Wills of Burke and Wills fame? I just did a search and found this: http://www.aussieairliners.org/dc-3/vh-aeq/vhaeq.html

As it was originally named after the explorer Blaxland, the later name of Wills could be as above.

When my fiance (now wife) flew down from Sydney to visit me in Ceduna in 1969 (I was working at the Satellite Earth Station there), the flight from Adelaide to Ceduna was by and Ansett Airlines of SA DC3. Ceduna was a dirt strip in those days. My wife told me quite a few of the pax got airsick. The DC3 landed at multiple country towns on that flight.

(For non Aussies, Ceduna is 800km from the South Australian (SA) capital, Adelaide, and on the edge of the Nullabor* Plain. The bitumen road ended at Ceduna and it was a dirt road across to the Western Australia border, 500 km away. * Nullarbor = No trees)


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QuoteOriginally posted by p38arover Quote
I just did a search and found this: VH-AEQ Douglas DC-3
It is always rather sad to me, to see airplanes that gave me my living being put out to pasture or sent to the bone yard. Flying the DC3 in the outback was an education not to be missed.
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So that was VH-AEQ? I see AES has been preserved.

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It is always rather sad to me, to see airplanes that gave me my living being put out to pasture or sent to the bone yard. Flying the DC3 in the outback was an education not to be missed.
I regret not having had a flight in a DC3. I'll have to do it one day.
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QuoteOriginally posted by p38arover Quote
So that was VH-AEQ? I see AES has been preserved.
Yes, you can make out the registration above the cockpit window.
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I regret not having had a flight in a DC3. I'll have to do it one day.
Ron, you may like to have a look at this:



Dinner Flight on the DC-3 Gooney Bird - Melbourne

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Oh, I am. I'll be in Melbourne next month. Wife says yes.

However, it seems they fly in the warmer months.
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QuoteOriginally posted by p38arover Quote
So that was VH-AEQ? I see AES has been preserved.

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I regret not having had a flight in a DC3. I'll have to do it one day.
I have 300 hours crew member flying time in various U.S. Airforce C-47s during the early 1960s. Great old airplane!
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Wading through the gazillion shots taken over the last weekend. The Frecce display was largely neutered by the weather with just the big formation bends and the early passes by the joker. Bit of a shame as given a good day they can really fill the sky with ickle jets.





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A few shots from the B17 "Aluminum Overcast" stop in Calgary recently.
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A few shots from the B17 "Aluminum Overcast" stop in Calgary recently.
Love the grass field look, especially the first one. Very WW2
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Very nice indeed.

Arnold, I was looking through some promotional info about Moree (having lived/worked there 1968-69) and saw a reference to a DC3. There's one at a pub in Moree. See Big Plane in Moree | Moree Attraction
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Very nice indeed.

Arnold, I was looking through some promotional info about Moree (having lived/worked there 1968-69) and saw a reference to a DC3. There's one at a pub in Moree. See Big Plane in Moree | Moree Attraction
Glad to see her back in Au.
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