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02-21-2015, 04:27 PM   #19831
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T-Trash- which fills me with a fair amount of anger, that people are unwilling to place such rubbish in the bin, which incidentally is close by!
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QuoteOriginally posted by noelcmn Quote
T-Trash- which fills me with a fair amount of anger, that people are unwilling to place such rubbish in the bin, which incidentally is close by!
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With you 100% in being disgusted by people who toss trash. In MessyChewBits, decades back, we passed the "bottle bill" requiring a deposit on soda/liquor containers, to be redeemed at any sales outlet when/if the container was returned. Aside from people saving containers, those down on their luck began active collecting along roadsides to make a few dollars (20 containers to get $1). What was unexpected is that the bill changed the entire outlook, culture and psychology of fling-it-out-the-car-window, and within a few years, miscellaneous curbside trash - pizza boxes. McDonald's burger boxes, newspapers etc. - disappeared almost completely. Roadsides are vastly cleaner. The law was recently expanded to include water and juice containers, and predictably, there were forces, both private and corporate, who vociferously opposed such an extension. There is still a bit of trash here and there - not everyone can be potty trained - and casual counting suggests the vast majority is beer cans, some liquor bottles, cigarette buts/containers, and various McD's packaging, plus some bottled-water containers, but the latter are rapidly disappearing.
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As much as I agree with an economic incentive, it will regrettably not succeed here, as it involves a worldview and culture that works opposite to that. To illustrate- One Sunday morning, doing my rounds with fetching some congregation members, I stopped and waited for the traffic light. An African fella came into view from the right, I watched him as I expected him to cross the road in front of my car. He was eating some chicken, which he finished just as he arrived near my car. He discarded the container and the chicken bones onto the street, and proceeded to cross the intersection. I was furious, though I could not do anything really, as the robot changed and i had to get moving. Why did it make me angry- for the simple reason there was a trash bin right next to him, and it was not full either, and a simple "different" exercise would have resulted in the trash being put where it belongs. But no- disregarding all such niceties, he simply discarded the trash onto the street, walked on as if there was nothing wrong with what he has just done! in fact, He was probably unaware that it was wrong.. By western standards at any rate. The particular image posted above is the post-concert mess that usually results at such big events. And there are usually bins aplenty at such events.
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Back in the '60s and '70s, more than once I observed someone in a car ahead roll down their window and heave out trash, most commonly a cigarette, but also cans, bottles, bags with McD's packaging. But 99% of that has stopped since the bottle bill. Again, by placing monetary value on one specie of trash, it changed the whole psychology of discarding.
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