Just Black and White-ur B/W Monochrome photos here

furryurry · 08-27-2015, 08:46 PM

Originally posted by Clarity

I think this thread is absolutely incredible, a lot of stunning images.
But I can't help but notice too many folks damaging their beautiful photo's by over-sharpening; i.e. using to much artificial sharpening. That creates harsh/ugly fringes and artifacts. It might be when exporting or scaling photoshop/lightroom is set to 'bicubic sharpening' and over-sharpen the picture that way. Please keep in mind that artificial sharpening is basically a local, edge detection contrast boost and clarity is a high radius sharpening. Combining a lot of 'clarity', with contrast might be a little bit too much.
Photoshop users I suggest to use 'smart sharpening', use 'remove lens blur' for better effect (it's a newer algorithm than the more commonly used 'unsharp mask'). Also consider fading the highlights when using smart-sharpen using the 'advanced mode' as explained in this video, that gets rid of fringing as well.
I hope I don't sound overly critically

its meant constructively/positively.

Ah een fietspomp

Speaking of over sharpening, when I upload on flickr it seem too sharpen my pictures a lot. I dont have that problem with 500px or PPG

shuttles12000 · 08-28-2015, 03:04 AM

I don't get the same sharpening problems unless I use the tool from Flickr itself. I upload from within Lightroom using the Flickr Plugin. So I am controlling the end result.
There are other plugins you can use that give even more control.
This site will down-sample pictures when you load them. I notice that they don't always come out great as a result. So if you can upload a file from your PC that is already in the correct dimensions, the uploader doesn't have to amend it, and you will hopefully end up with a decent result.

**Rondec** · 08-28-2015, 03:25 AM - **8 Likes**

Originally posted by Clarity

I think this thread is absolutely incredible, a lot of stunning images.
But I can't help but notice too many folks damaging their beautiful photo's by over-sharpening; i.e. using to much artificial sharpening. That creates harsh/ugly fringes and artifacts. It might be when exporting or scaling photoshop/lightroom is set to 'bicubic sharpening' and over-sharpen the picture that way. Please keep in mind that artificial sharpening is basically a local, edge detection contrast boost and clarity is a high radius sharpening. Combining a lot of 'clarity', with contrast might be a little bit too much.
Photoshop users I suggest to use 'smart sharpening', use 'remove lens blur' for better effect (it's a newer algorithm than the more commonly used 'unsharp mask'). Also consider fading the highlights when using smart-sharpen using the 'advanced mode' as explained in this video, that gets rid of fringing as well.
I hope I don't sound overly critically

its meant constructively/positively.

Ah een fietspomp

It is probably a question of whether or not you see the sharpening artifacts or the HDR halos or things like that. I think a lot of people just don't really see them when they are editing. I created an adjustment brush in Lightroom that knocks clarity down by 10 and decreases highlights a little and it is quite effective at getting rid of halos on edges of things, but certainly the best thing is just not to be too aggressive in the first place.

Barn and Tree.

**mattb123** · 08-28-2015, 07:20 AM - **3 Likes**

**acoufap** · 08-28-2015, 08:52 AM - **2 Likes**

Cow versus Tree

LeRolls · 08-28-2015, 05:45 PM - **4 Likes**

noelpolar · 08-28-2015, 08:57 PM - **8 Likes**

Finally got all my pentax "K" lenses silvered by "Dcshooter".... K30/2.8, K50/1.2 and K85/1.8. Life is good.

Manual Kit.jpg by Noel Leahy, on Flickr

chmance · 08-28-2015, 10:53 PM - **12 Likes**

A cactus wrapped in shadow and light ...

**Rondec** · 08-29-2015, 02:55 AM - **6 Likes**

Sunrise.

chmance · 08-29-2015, 03:02 AM

Originally posted by Rondec

Sunrise.

Hi Vincent,

This is so pleasing in a very understated way. Do you use Lightroom or Photoshop? I cannot come close to this and your other monochromes using Elements 8.

Regards,

Charlie

LeRolls · 08-29-2015, 05:32 AM

Originally posted by chmance

A cactus wrapped in shadow and light ...

That's really nice!

**Rondec** · 08-29-2015, 05:55 AM

Originally posted by chmance

Hi Vincent,

This is so pleasing in a very understated way. Do you use Lightroom or Photoshop? I cannot come close to this and your other monochromes using Elements 8.

Regards,

Charlie

I use a combination of Lightroom 5 and Silver Efex from nik effects. In this photo, I bumped shadows and exposure and then used an adjustment brush on the sky to bring down the highlights in Lightroom. Then I brought the image over to Silver Efex and applied the fine art preset to it and I think that was it.

Elements is OK, but it is a little bit of a crude tool for working with RAW images -- I used to use for RAW development and I found it better for working with jpegs.

**Hattifnatt** · 08-29-2015, 10:43 AM

**UncleVanya** · 08-29-2015, 11:04 AM

Originally posted by chmance

A cactus wrapped in shadow and light ...

Very nice!

Jean Poitiers · 08-29-2015, 01:15 PM - **1 Like**

Just for fun ... this goofing around in Lr4. Really need to get more serious with my post in B&W ...

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08-27-2015, 08:46 PM	#10021
furryurry Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: NYC Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 786	Originally posted by Clarity I think this thread is absolutely incredible, a lot of stunning images. But I can't help but notice too many folks damaging their beautiful photo's by over-sharpening; i.e. using to much artificial sharpening. That creates harsh/ugly fringes and artifacts. It might be when exporting or scaling photoshop/lightroom is set to 'bicubic sharpening' and over-sharpen the picture that way. Please keep in mind that artificial sharpening is basically a local, edge detection contrast boost and clarity is a high radius sharpening. Combining a lot of 'clarity', with contrast might be a little bit too much. Photoshop users I suggest to use 'smart sharpening', use 'remove lens blur' for better effect (it's a newer algorithm than the more commonly used 'unsharp mask'). Also consider fading the highlights when using smart-sharpen using the 'advanced mode' as explained in this video, that gets rid of fringing as well. I hope I don't sound overly critically its meant constructively/positively. Ah een fietspomp Speaking of over sharpening, when I upload on flickr it seem too sharpen my pictures a lot. I dont have that problem with 500px or PPG

08-28-2015, 03:04 AM	#10022
shuttles12000 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Hobart TAS Posts: 87	I don't get the same sharpening problems unless I use the tool from Flickr itself. I upload from within Lightroom using the Flickr Plugin. So I am controlling the end result. There are other plugins you can use that give even more control. This site will down-sample pictures when you load them. I notice that they don't always come out great as a result. So if you can upload a file from your PC that is already in the correct dimensions, the uploader doesn't have to amend it, and you will hopefully end up with a decent result.

08-28-2015, 03:25 AM - 8 Likes	#10023
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,650	Originally posted by Clarity I think this thread is absolutely incredible, a lot of stunning images. But I can't help but notice too many folks damaging their beautiful photo's by over-sharpening; i.e. using to much artificial sharpening. That creates harsh/ugly fringes and artifacts. It might be when exporting or scaling photoshop/lightroom is set to 'bicubic sharpening' and over-sharpen the picture that way. Please keep in mind that artificial sharpening is basically a local, edge detection contrast boost and clarity is a high radius sharpening. Combining a lot of 'clarity', with contrast might be a little bit too much. Photoshop users I suggest to use 'smart sharpening', use 'remove lens blur' for better effect (it's a newer algorithm than the more commonly used 'unsharp mask'). Also consider fading the highlights when using smart-sharpen using the 'advanced mode' as explained in this video, that gets rid of fringing as well. I hope I don't sound overly critically its meant constructively/positively. Ah een fietspomp It is probably a question of whether or not you see the sharpening artifacts or the HDR halos or things like that. I think a lot of people just don't really see them when they are editing. I created an adjustment brush in Lightroom that knocks clarity down by 10 and decreases highlights a little and it is quite effective at getting rid of halos on edges of things, but certainly the best thing is just not to be too aggressive in the first place. Barn and Tree.

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chmance Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Vancouver Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 484	Originally posted by Rondec Sunrise. Hi Vincent, This is so pleasing in a very understated way. Do you use Lightroom or Photoshop? I cannot come close to this and your other monochromes using Elements 8. Regards, Charlie

08-29-2015, 05:32 AM	#10031
LeRolls Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: PSL, FL Posts: 4,504	Originally posted by chmance A cactus wrapped in shadow and light ... That's really nice!

08-29-2015, 05:55 AM	#10032
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,650	Originally posted by chmance Hi Vincent, This is so pleasing in a very understated way. Do you use Lightroom or Photoshop? I cannot come close to this and your other monochromes using Elements 8. Regards, Charlie I use a combination of Lightroom 5 and Silver Efex from nik effects. In this photo, I bumped shadows and exposure and then used an adjustment brush on the sky to bring down the highlights in Lightroom. Then I brought the image over to Silver Efex and applied the fine art preset to it and I think that was it. Elements is OK, but it is a little bit of a crude tool for working with RAW images -- I used to use for RAW development and I found it better for working with jpegs.

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