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Timo Laine · 05-18-2011, 07:06 AM

Hello everyone. I got my K-x last year and I have been thoroughly satisfied with it. It is my first DSLR (before it I had the Optio S and the Optio A30) but I cannot imagine ever really needing features that it does not have (perhaps apart from a bigger sensor eventually, but that can wait).

More or less the only thing that bothers me with Pentax is the fact that I do not like investing in APS-C lenses, and apart from a few (mostly expensive) FA and DFA lenses, it is all APS-C. It would not be such a big problem if Pentax lenses did not cost a lot more here in Finland compared to many other places. But on the other hand, I have quite a few old manual lenses, and somehow I find getting a good result with a manual lens more rewarding than with auto everything.

Last edited by Parallax; 05-18-2011 at 07:52 AM.

KxBlaze · 05-18-2011, 02:46 PM

Welcome! Why do you not like investing in APS-C lenses? Planning on moving to FF in the future? Be sure to explore this website as there are many nooks and crannies all over. Enjoy!

Timo Laine · 05-19-2011, 01:37 AM

Hi KxBlaze and thanks for the welcome!

Yeah, eventually (years from now of course) I believe I will be using an FF camera. I also believe Pentax will be moving to FF when they finally think the sensor prices are right. In the end just about the only permanent advantage that APS-C has over FF is size, and with the K mount, I believe there are significant limitations to how small the camera can be. The fact is that the K mount was designed for 35mm film, and if Pentax want to stick with it, in the end they will be producing full frame cameras too. After this, they will continue to make APS-C cameras too at least for a while, but I am not convinced APS-C will stay around for too long.

Sure, APS-C means the lenses are smaller and lighter too. But I believe that is really only an advantage for a small group of people. For someone who uses a small normal zoom or primes of a relatively normal focal length the difference is negligible. If you really care about having the smallest, lightest camera, you will be using something else anyway.

annemari · 05-19-2011, 02:55 AM

Greetings from Tallinn to Helsinki! Enjoy Your K-r and don't think about these kinds of things

Because I think that when You'll buy FF then You can sell all of Your other stuff! So just enjoy!

repaap · 05-19-2011, 03:25 AM

Hello from Mikkeli

Timo, just relax. APS-C has more advantages than just size. Surely FF has advantages too, but APS-C is good and can be even exellent. It is up to you. You can get good and crisp pictures with both of them and bad pictures too

For me, buying(or not to) DA lenses or others is matter of thicness of my wallet...I think you can be happy with them too(limiteds), and luckilly there are FA's and other brands you can buy looking for FF too, but I think that time will not come soon, and they cost even more. Besides I enjoy that extra reach crop sensor gives me...

**Kerrowdown** · 05-19-2011, 03:42 AM

Welcome to the forum, from a fellow old manual lens fan.

05-18-2011, 07:06 AM	#1
Timo Laine New Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 2	Helsinki says hi Hello everyone. I got my K-x last year and I have been thoroughly satisfied with it. It is my first DSLR (before it I had the Optio S and the Optio A30) but I cannot imagine ever really needing features that it does not have (perhaps apart from a bigger sensor eventually, but that can wait). More or less the only thing that bothers me with Pentax is the fact that I do not like investing in APS-C lenses, and apart from a few (mostly expensive) FA and DFA lenses, it is all APS-C. It would not be such a big problem if Pentax lenses did not cost a lot more here in Finland compared to many other places. But on the other hand, I have quite a few old manual lenses, and somehow I find getting a good result with a manual lens more rewarding than with auto everything. Last edited by Parallax; 05-18-2011 at 07:52 AM.

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05-18-2011, 02:46 PM	#2
KxBlaze Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: California Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,602	Welcome! Why do you not like investing in APS-C lenses? Planning on moving to FF in the future? Be sure to explore this website as there are many nooks and crannies all over. Enjoy!

05-19-2011, 01:37 AM	#3
Timo Laine New Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 2 Original Poster	Hi KxBlaze and thanks for the welcome! Yeah, eventually (years from now of course) I believe I will be using an FF camera. I also believe Pentax will be moving to FF when they finally think the sensor prices are right. In the end just about the only permanent advantage that APS-C has over FF is size, and with the K mount, I believe there are significant limitations to how small the camera can be. The fact is that the K mount was designed for 35mm film, and if Pentax want to stick with it, in the end they will be producing full frame cameras too. After this, they will continue to make APS-C cameras too at least for a while, but I am not convinced APS-C will stay around for too long. Sure, APS-C means the lenses are smaller and lighter too. But I believe that is really only an advantage for a small group of people. For someone who uses a small normal zoom or primes of a relatively normal focal length the difference is negligible. If you really care about having the smallest, lightest camera, you will be using something else anyway.

05-19-2011, 02:55 AM	#4
annemari Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Tallinn Photos: Albums Posts: 107	Greetings from Tallinn to Helsinki! Enjoy Your K-r and don't think about these kinds of things Because I think that when You'll buy FF then You can sell all of Your other stuff! So just enjoy!

05-19-2011, 03:25 AM	#5
repaap Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,242	Hello from Mikkeli Timo, just relax. APS-C has more advantages than just size. Surely FF has advantages too, but APS-C is good and can be even exellent. It is up to you. You can get good and crisp pictures with both of them and bad pictures too For me, buying(or not to) DA lenses or others is matter of thicness of my wallet...I think you can be happy with them too(limiteds), and luckilly there are FA's and other brands you can buy looking for FF too, but I think that time will not come soon, and they cost even more. Besides I enjoy that extra reach crop sensor gives me...

05-19-2011, 03:42 AM	#6
Kerrowdown PEG Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Highlands of Scotland... "Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand" - William Blake Photos: Gallery Posts: 57,867	Welcome to the forum, from a fellow old manual lens fan.

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