Greetings to all

Sandy Hancock · 03-27-2013, 03:11 AM

I showed interest in three lenses (silver FA31 and FA43, FA*85) but offered to pay by PayPal only.
I also stipulated I would only buy one at a time, and only pay for the next lens after the first one arrived.

I'm glad I did. Really hope you guys get some joy out of this.

phillydad · 03-27-2013, 03:48 AM

One thing I don't understand is that why nobody put negative feedback after they had fishy interaction with him. I didn't feel I could post it based on others interaction. Negative feedback could have helped some of the later folks...

**Ash** · 03-27-2013, 05:20 AM

He'll be banned and his account deleted as well as his IP address blocked from all future attempts to log into the forum if it turns out he has acted fraudulently. This would make negative feedback unimportant. If any buyer manages to get a package from this seller, do tell us how the contents of it reflect your expectations.

Dr Orloff · 03-27-2013, 06:14 AM

The rule of life is of course caveat emptor. But it's tough to see people getting ripped off like this. I agree, way to go Singapore forum. He was also dealt with very quickly on the Pentax UK forum.

galgulus · 03-27-2013, 06:26 AM

Please keep the IP ADDRESS of his transaction on the this web. Since the first post to last post , may help in the investigation.

Worst case, his deal are scam. Those affected should collect documents about the money transfer transaction and all evidence obtained from him.

Sorry for my poor English.

Regards

clarkbai · 03-27-2013, 06:55 AM

Parcel status:
Date Time Location Tracking Event
26-03-2013 22:36 International Hub Awaiting Customs Charging

I contacted parcel force (EMS UK partner) for more information about the parcel like weight and dimension (size). However, now it is in UK customs, so they can not tell for now. What I can do for now is just wait...

galgulus · 03-27-2013, 07:20 AM

Clarkbai,

If he ship your parcel by EMS WORLD , kindly to check your parcel tracking number on THAILAND POST's WEBSTIE

Track And Trace : EMS : Thailand Post : Grasshopper

i would like to know , where of post office in Bangkok that he ship parcel.

Sorry for my curiously.

clarkbai · 03-27-2013, 07:46 AM

Originally posted by galgulus

Clarkbai,

If he ship your parcel by EMS WORLD , kindly to check your parcel tracking number on THAILAND POST's WEBSTIE

Track And Trace : EMS : Thailand Post : Grasshopper

i would like to know , where of post office in Bangkok that he ship parcel.

Sorry for my curiously.

ATETIME Scan Location Description
March 21, 2013
15:17:27 PATTAYA Accept
March 21, 2013
16:16:54 PATTAYA Items Into Container
March 21, 2013
16:40:33 PATTAYA Dispatch
March 21, 2013
21:48:33 SI RACHA MAIL CENTER Container Received
March 21, 2013
22:27:18 SI RACHA MAIL CENTER Items Into Container
March 21, 2013
22:27:31 SI RACHA MAIL CENTER Dispatch
March 22, 2013
09:31:08 SUVARNABHUMI MAIL CENTRE Container Received
March 22, 2013
10:01:32 SUVARNABHUMI MAIL CENTRE Outgoing International
March 25, 2013
03:29:00 Great Britain (GBCVTA) Accept
March 25, 2013
03:30:00 Great Britain (GBCVTA) To Customs
March 26, 2013
16:26:00 Great Britain (GBCVTA) To Customs
March 26, 2013
16:27:00 Great Britain (GBCVTA) To Customs

Dr Orloff · 03-27-2013, 10:56 AM

Originally posted by Dr Orloff

There will be no good news here. Some lenses have turned up for sale on a UK based forum. The lenses are similar, similarly priced, images also on Imageshack look the same as those here now removed. The lenses are in Thailand and the guy is Italian, just happens to work for a Thai photopgraphic studio. Well that's the story anyway.

Good luck to everyone trying to recover their money.

Just to update this. The above mentioned person selling those lenses named himself as Paul Roberts (username Thaipentax) and claimed to be a different person to Chirocanonpan (Bancha Worakai).

Here are some observations:

Bancha Worakai claims to be Thai and doesn't speak Thai.
Bancha Worakai comes from a rich Thai family and speaks poor English (rich Thais speak good English).
Paul Roberts has an anglicised name, claims to have a Canadian mother and lives in the USA, but speaks poor English.
Paul Roberts claims to work in Thailand.
Both users however speak Italian.
Paul Roberts has Italian websites selling replica Rolexes.
Paul Roberts and Bancha Worakai both registered under the same email address, even though one claims not to be the other.

I wish everyone waiting on packages the very best.

galgulus · 03-27-2013, 03:01 PM

Originally posted by clarkbai

ATETIME Scan Location Description
March 21, 2013
15:17:27 PATTAYA Accept
March 21, 2013
16:16:54 PATTAYA Items Into Container
March 21, 2013
16:40:33 PATTAYA Dispatch
March 21, 2013
21:48:33 SI RACHA MAIL CENTER Container Received
March 21, 2013
22:27:18 SI RACHA MAIL CENTER Items Into Container
March 21, 2013
22:27:31 SI RACHA MAIL CENTER Dispatch
March 22, 2013
09:31:08 SUVARNABHUMI MAIL CENTRE Container Received
March 22, 2013
10:01:32 SUVARNABHUMI MAIL CENTRE Outgoing International
March 25, 2013
03:29:00 Great Britain (GBCVTA) Accept
March 25, 2013
03:30:00 Great Britain (GBCVTA) To Customs
March 26, 2013
16:26:00 Great Britain (GBCVTA) To Customs
March 26, 2013
16:27:00 Great Britain (GBCVTA) To Customs

Thank you ,

chirocanonpan · 03-28-2013, 12:57 AM

Is from the start many have thinking I am bad man and not thai man , but you can check the name is thai and not other country. I can complain you for put all my details online also if for me NOT PROBLEM really not PROBLEM at all because I do not need to cover nothing. I am in Thailand I living in Thailand and not in ITALY the package is departure ( shipped )from Thailand so you have proof I am in Thailand . Nobody can speak I am not in Thailand the ADMIN also have check my IP in the start open account , and he know I am in Thailand. So if you want find me I am in Thailand, is not possible think I am outside Thailand when the shipment is been made from PATTAYA CITY That are in Thailand is a proof I am in Thailand.

Szenario · 03-28-2013, 01:12 AM

Originally posted by chirocanonpan

Is from the start many have thinking I am bad man and not thai man , but you can check the name is thai and not other country. I can complain you for put all my details online also if for me NOT PROBLEM really not PROBLEM at all because I do not need to cover nothing. I am in Thailand I living in Thailand and not in ITALY the package is departure ( shipped )from Thailand so you have proof I am in Thailand . Nobody can speak I am not in Thailand the ADMIN also have check my IP in the start open account , and he know I am in Thailand. So if you want find me I am in Thailand, is not possible think I am outside Thailand when the shipment is been made from PATTAYA CITY That are in Thailand is a proof I am in Thailand.

Then why dont you answer to my mails?
I didnt receive any tracking code or confirmation that a parcel have been sent to me.

ricardoruca · 03-28-2013, 01:16 AM

Originally posted by Szenario

Then why dont you answer to my mails?
I didnt receive any tracking code or confirmation that a parcel have been sent to me.

Me too.
I have paid for the 1.7x converter the 20th March, and I don't have a tracking number.
Bancha, I don't know if you have sent the parcel. Could you confirm it.
Thanks

Enviado con Xperia Neo V usando Tapatalk2

amsee · 03-28-2013, 01:20 AM

Definitely you have sold a Zeiss 21mm for $1060 to three persons in this forum. Noone has received a tracking number.
We have evidence for that.

The phone number you gave to me (one of the buyers) leads to a woman who claims to know about nothing.

amsee · 03-28-2013, 02:15 AM

Originally posted by phillydad

One thing I don't understand is that why nobody put negative feedback after they had fishy interaction with him. I didn't feel I could post it based on others interaction. Negative feedback could have helped some of the later folks...

I am very sorry for that but after my early "purchase" of the zeiss 21 I was on a business trip and revisited the forum too late to post a note that the item was "sold".

03-27-2013, 03:01 PM	#55
galgulus Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Bangkok Posts: 29	Originally posted by clarkbai ATETIME Scan Location Description March 21, 2013 15:17:27 PATTAYA Accept March 21, 2013 16:16:54 PATTAYA Items Into Container March 21, 2013 16:40:33 PATTAYA Dispatch March 21, 2013 21:48:33 SI RACHA MAIL CENTER Container Received March 21, 2013 22:27:18 SI RACHA MAIL CENTER Items Into Container March 21, 2013 22:27:31 SI RACHA MAIL CENTER Dispatch March 22, 2013 09:31:08 SUVARNABHUMI MAIL CENTRE Container Received March 22, 2013 10:01:32 SUVARNABHUMI MAIL CENTRE Outgoing International March 25, 2013 03:29:00 Great Britain (GBCVTA) Accept March 25, 2013 03:30:00 Great Britain (GBCVTA) To Customs March 26, 2013 16:26:00 Great Britain (GBCVTA) To Customs March 26, 2013 16:27:00 Great Britain (GBCVTA) To Customs Thank you , Last edited by galgulus; 03-27-2013 at 03:43 PM.

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03-27-2013, 03:11 AM	#46
Sandy Hancock Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Adelaide Hills, South Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,272	I showed interest in three lenses (silver FA31 and FA43, FA*85) but offered to pay by PayPal only. I also stipulated I would only buy one at a time, and only pay for the next lens after the first one arrived. I'm glad I did. Really hope you guys get some joy out of this.

03-27-2013, 03:48 AM	#47
phillydad Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Philadelphia, PA Photos: Albums Posts: 86	One thing I don't understand is that why nobody put negative feedback after they had fishy interaction with him. I didn't feel I could post it based on others interaction. Negative feedback could have helped some of the later folks...

03-27-2013, 05:20 AM	#48
Ash Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toowoomba, Queensland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,920	He'll be banned and his account deleted as well as his IP address blocked from all future attempts to log into the forum if it turns out he has acted fraudulently. This would make negative feedback unimportant. If any buyer manages to get a package from this seller, do tell us how the contents of it reflect your expectations.

03-27-2013, 06:14 AM	#49
Dr Orloff Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Brighton, England Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 512	The rule of life is of course caveat emptor. But it's tough to see people getting ripped off like this. I agree, way to go Singapore forum. He was also dealt with very quickly on the Pentax UK forum.

03-27-2013, 06:26 AM	#50
galgulus Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Bangkok Posts: 29	Please keep the IP ADDRESS of his transaction on the this web. Since the first post to last post , may help in the investigation. Worst case, his deal are scam. Those affected should collect documents about the money transfer transaction and all evidence obtained from him. Sorry for my poor English. Regards

03-27-2013, 06:55 AM	#51
clarkbai Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 70	Parcel status: Date Time Location Tracking Event 26-03-2013 22:36 International Hub Awaiting Customs Charging I contacted parcel force (EMS UK partner) for more information about the parcel like weight and dimension (size). However, now it is in UK customs, so they can not tell for now. What I can do for now is just wait...

03-27-2013, 07:20 AM	#52
galgulus Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Bangkok Posts: 29	Clarkbai, If he ship your parcel by EMS WORLD , kindly to check your parcel tracking number on THAILAND POST's WEBSTIE Track And Trace : EMS : Thailand Post : Grasshopper i would like to know , where of post office in Bangkok that he ship parcel. Sorry for my curiously.

03-27-2013, 07:46 AM	#53
clarkbai Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 70	Originally posted by galgulus Clarkbai, If he ship your parcel by EMS WORLD , kindly to check your parcel tracking number on THAILAND POST's WEBSTIE Track And Trace : EMS : Thailand Post : Grasshopper i would like to know , where of post office in Bangkok that he ship parcel. Sorry for my curiously. ATETIME Scan Location Description March 21, 2013 15:17:27 PATTAYA Accept March 21, 2013 16:16:54 PATTAYA Items Into Container March 21, 2013 16:40:33 PATTAYA Dispatch March 21, 2013 21:48:33 SI RACHA MAIL CENTER Container Received March 21, 2013 22:27:18 SI RACHA MAIL CENTER Items Into Container March 21, 2013 22:27:31 SI RACHA MAIL CENTER Dispatch March 22, 2013 09:31:08 SUVARNABHUMI MAIL CENTRE Container Received March 22, 2013 10:01:32 SUVARNABHUMI MAIL CENTRE Outgoing International March 25, 2013 03:29:00 Great Britain (GBCVTA) Accept March 25, 2013 03:30:00 Great Britain (GBCVTA) To Customs March 26, 2013 16:26:00 Great Britain (GBCVTA) To Customs March 26, 2013 16:27:00 Great Britain (GBCVTA) To Customs

03-27-2013, 10:56 AM	#54
Dr Orloff Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Brighton, England Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 512	Originally posted by Dr Orloff There will be no good news here. Some lenses have turned up for sale on a UK based forum. The lenses are similar, similarly priced, images also on Imageshack look the same as those here now removed. The lenses are in Thailand and the guy is Italian, just happens to work for a Thai photopgraphic studio. Well that's the story anyway. Good luck to everyone trying to recover their money. Just to update this. The above mentioned person selling those lenses named himself as Paul Roberts (username Thaipentax) and claimed to be a different person to Chirocanonpan (Bancha Worakai). Here are some observations: Bancha Worakai claims to be Thai and doesn't speak Thai. Bancha Worakai comes from a rich Thai family and speaks poor English (rich Thais speak good English). Paul Roberts has an anglicised name, claims to have a Canadian mother and lives in the USA, but speaks poor English. Paul Roberts claims to work in Thailand. Both users however speak Italian. Paul Roberts has Italian websites selling replica Rolexes. Paul Roberts and Bancha Worakai both registered under the same email address, even though one claims not to be the other. I wish everyone waiting on packages the very best.

03-28-2013, 12:57 AM	#56
chirocanonpan Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 38 Original Poster	Is from the start many have thinking I am bad man and not thai man , but you can check the name is thai and not other country. I can complain you for put all my details online also if for me NOT PROBLEM really not PROBLEM at all because I do not need to cover nothing. I am in Thailand I living in Thailand and not in ITALY the package is departure ( shipped )from Thailand so you have proof I am in Thailand . Nobody can speak I am not in Thailand the ADMIN also have check my IP in the start open account , and he know I am in Thailand. So if you want find me I am in Thailand, is not possible think I am outside Thailand when the shipment is been made from PATTAYA CITY That are in Thailand is a proof I am in Thailand.

03-28-2013, 01:12 AM	#57
Szenario Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 38	Originally posted by chirocanonpan Is from the start many have thinking I am bad man and not thai man , but you can check the name is thai and not other country. I can complain you for put all my details online also if for me NOT PROBLEM really not PROBLEM at all because I do not need to cover nothing. I am in Thailand I living in Thailand and not in ITALY the package is departure ( shipped )from Thailand so you have proof I am in Thailand . Nobody can speak I am not in Thailand the ADMIN also have check my IP in the start open account , and he know I am in Thailand. So if you want find me I am in Thailand, is not possible think I am outside Thailand when the shipment is been made from PATTAYA CITY That are in Thailand is a proof I am in Thailand. Then why dont you answer to my mails? I didnt receive any tracking code or confirmation that a parcel have been sent to me.

03-28-2013, 01:16 AM	#58
ricardoruca Forum Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Spain Posts: 64	Originally posted by Szenario Then why dont you answer to my mails? I didnt receive any tracking code or confirmation that a parcel have been sent to me. Me too. I have paid for the 1.7x converter the 20th March, and I don't have a tracking number. Bancha, I don't know if you have sent the parcel. Could you confirm it. Thanks Enviado con Xperia Neo V usando Tapatalk2

03-28-2013, 01:20 AM	#59
amsee New Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Lake of Constance (Bodensee) Posts: 10	Definitely you have sold a Zeiss 21mm for $1060 to three persons in this forum. Noone has received a tracking number. We have evidence for that. The phone number you gave to me (one of the buyers) leads to a woman who claims to know about nothing.

03-28-2013, 02:15 AM	#60
amsee New Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Lake of Constance (Bodensee) Posts: 10	Originally posted by phillydad One thing I don't understand is that why nobody put negative feedback after they had fishy interaction with him. I didn't feel I could post it based on others interaction. Negative feedback could have helped some of the later folks... I am very sorry for that but after my early "purchase" of the zeiss 21 I was on a business trip and revisited the forum too late to post a note that the item was "sold".