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05-17-2014, 01:42 PM   #1
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Hi All,

I recently purchased my first Pentax DSLR, a K5IIs, along with a M 50 f/2 the shop had lying around - so far a great combination! This site has been wonderful while researching Pentax cameras and I look forward to joining in the discussions!

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That inexpensive lens is actually pretty good. Now you just need to add longer and shorter lenses - perhaps even with Auto Focus!


Oh, and welcome to the forum!
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Welcome to the forum.

What a great start - a manual prime!
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Welcome.
I agree a manual prime is a great start - I'm sure you will learn a lot from it.

Be warned you will probably soon crave perhaps a faster aperture and / or better lenses! Seems to be the way it goes.

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Thanks, all!

For a tele zoom I'm taking a chance on a F 80-200 4.7-5.6 (not the silver version)I found on eBay...it was $90 shipped, so not a huge hit if it doesn't work out. I played with a 55-300 HD WR in the shop and liked it fairly well.

My plan is to next add a standard zoom and a wider prime (with AF). The zooms I'm considering are the Pentax 18-135, Sigma 17-70, Sigma 17-50, and maybe a Pentax 16-45. I'm very tempted by the WR of the 18-135 (for obvious reasons) but the speed and IQ of the Sigmas are excellent for roughly the same money. The primes I'm considering are the 21 ltd, 35 2.4 and the 40 ltd. I'll be set with those until I can save up for a dedicated macro later on.
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QuoteOriginally posted by got2bNC Quote
I played with a 55-300 HD WR in the shop and liked it fairly well.

My plan is to next add a standard zoom and a wider prime (with AF). The zooms I'm considering are the Pentax 18-135, Sigma 17-70, Sigma 17-50, and maybe a Pentax 16-45. I'm very tempted by the WR of the 18-135 (for obvious reasons) but the speed and IQ of the Sigmas are excellent for roughly the same money. The primes I'm considering are the 21 ltd, 35 2.4 and the 40 ltd. I'll be set with those until I can save up for a dedicated macro later on.
The DA55-300 is certainly a good way to get started (and sometimes a lens to stick with) at the long end. But I have an even better solution at the bottom of this post.

Keep in mind that all Pentax constant f/4 zooms (that I've ever used) seem to have very high IQ at f/4.5. Most Sigmas aren't as strong near wide-open, so keep this is mind in your comparison (and with modern Sigmas, the newer the design the better - so at least avoid most older variants).


If you want to make the best use of your dollars right now (assuming you're not shooting lots of fast-action sports, which may have different needs such as faster AF) I'd go with a DA16-45/4, DA*50-135, and Cosina 100/3.5 macro (no need to spend more to start with). It may sound unbalanced price-wise, but a used DA*50-135 will make your kit, and the two lenses will outperform the DA18-135 significantly.

Then you can add a *300 lens someday if you need to, plus any relevant primes in the 15-85mm range.



Trust me, unless you're really casual about IQ, it's worth saving every penny you can by getting the well performing, best-value-in-class DA16-45 and Cosina 100 macro. Then put this money toward a used DA*50-135.
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Welcome to the forum, it sounds like mistress LBA has got her feet under your table.
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Bonjour from France and welcome to PF, got2bNC ... Enjoy & hope to see some K-5IIs images soon ... Salut, J

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QuoteOriginally posted by DSims Quote
Trust me, unless you're really casual about IQ, it's worth saving every penny you can by getting the well performing, best-value-in-class DA16-45 and Cosina 100 macro. Then put this money toward a used DA*50-135.
Sounds like good advice for someone on a budget.

The 16-45 seems to have fallen out of fashion a bit, in favour of the 17-50s, 17-70s and 18-XX. But it rated highly in DxOMark comparison:
Best zoom lenses for the Pentax K-5 IIs - DxOMark

Also the extra mm or two in width (over a 17-XX or 18-XX) is much harder to come by cheaply, and often more useful, than the 5mm or so lost at the long end.

For those occasions where a wider aperture is required, it can be complemented with one of the many cheap (and pocketable) primes in the 24mm to 50mm range (starting with the M50 the OP already has).

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QuoteOriginally posted by got2bNC Quote
The primes I'm considering are the 21 ltd, 35 2.4 and the 40 ltd. I'll be set with those until I can save up for a dedicated macro later on.
No duds there. The choice will depend on your preferred FL.

I have the plastic fantastic DA 35 2.4 and I find its sharpness and IQ amazing for such a bargain price. It weighs next to nothing. I can just put it in my pocket for a walk and it will be handy regardless of which lens I have on the camera, whether 12-24, 55-300, DFA 100 or 170-500. It really is the APS-C version of the nifty fifty.

It's a good lens for video too, which people don't often mention.

The other plastic fantastic, the DA 50 1.8, is great too. We are spoilt for choice amongst the 50s. You already have one of the M50s. I have the A50 1.7 and love it, but AF is handy for moving subjects like kids and pets.

As for the macro, why not try your M50 with some extension tubes or a 2x TC with the glass removed? (Plenty of threads about this.) Might also work well enough on the F80-200 that you don't need a dedicated macro lens.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Des Quote
The 16-45 seems to have fallen out of fashion a bit, in favour of the 17-50s, 17-70s and 18-XX. But it rated highly in DxOMark comparison:
Best zoom lenses for the Pentax K-5 IIs - DxOMark

Also the extra mm or two in width (over a 17-XX or 18-XX) is much harder to come by cheaply, and often more useful, than the 5mm or so lost at the long end.
The DA16-45 is also relatively strong at the wide end, compared to most other standard zooms which tend to get weaker there. And it produces nice colors in the image - two of the key reasons I'd recommend it.

QuoteOriginally posted by Des Quote
I have the plastic fantastic DA 35 2.4 and I find its sharpness and IQ amazing for such a bargain price. It weighs next to nothing. I can just put it in my pocket for a walk and it will be handy regardless of which lens I have on the camera, whether 12-24, 55-300, DFA 100 or 170-500. It really is the APS-C version of the nifty fifty.

It's a good lens for video too, which people don't often mention.
I've noticed the same thing with the FA31, but again, people rarely talk about this for some reason!
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Lenses ordered! Went with the 16-45 (thanks for the recommendations!) and a 70 2.4 limited. I figure those two lenses plus the 80-200 and 50 f/2 will keep me covered.

I also ordered the Mrs. a K50 kit... She took a few shots with my camera and was hooked!

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QuoteOriginally posted by Des Quote
For those occasions where a wider aperture is required, it can be complemented with one of the many cheap (and pocketable) primes in the 24mm to 50mm range (starting with the M50 the OP already has).

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As for the macro, why not try your M50 with some extension tubes or a 2x TC with the glass removed? (Plenty of threads about this.) Might also work well enough on the F80-200 that you don't need a dedicated macro lens.
The next lens I get will probably be the 35 2.4. I went with the 70 so I have an AF medium tele for portraits.

I've been thinking about tubes for the 50 but I also read (dpreview?) that the 16-45 has decent macro ability, so I'll probably be fine for awhile.
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I'm new here...Im Raniel a photo enthusiast from Philippines also newbie Pentax user... I been using other brand of cameras but now I own a Pentax K-r that I have won from a local photo contest.. decided to keep it instead and use it ... it great camera... Thank you Pentax..
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QuoteOriginally posted by got2bNC Quote
I also ordered the Mrs. a K50 kit... She took a few shots with my camera and was hooked!
Brilliant strategy. You have every birthday, anniversary and Christmas covered, and you can indulge your LBA to your heart's content. "See this lovely 31 limited I got you darling. I hope you enjoy it as much as the Super Takumar I got for you last year."

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QuoteOriginally posted by ranieljose Quote
I'm new here...Im Raniel a photo enthusiast from Philippines also newbie Pentax user... I been using other brand of cameras but now I own a Pentax K-r that I have won from a local photo contest.. decided to keep it instead and use it ... it great camera... Thank you Pentax..
Welcome Raniel. What an excellent prize. Can you reveal the prize-winning photo?
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Brilliant strategy. You have every birthday, anniversary and Christmas covered, and you can indulge your LBA to your heart's content. "See this lovely 31 limited I got you darling. I hope you enjoy it as much as the Super Takumar I got for you last year."[COLOR="Silver"]
Hehe, it just might work! Not only that, but now I have a back-up/secondary body for when I shoot weddings
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Pics!

I'm finally getting around to posting a couple photos The one of my dog was taken with the 80-200 f/4.7-5.6 and the other was shot with the 50 f/2. Both images are as shot, resized in Lightroom 3 and exported as JPEGs.

The 80-200 has quick autofocus, it's super light and compact, and I love that it zooms internally. It's sharpness is just average, but it will do for now. The 50 f/2, however, is fantastic! Sharp, great colors and fun to use.
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