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DSims · 06-20-2014, 10:09 PM

Originally posted by stevebrot

If you just want the grip for the vertical hold, it is my opinion that option is highly overrated. Your K-30 is a sports car, why saddle it with a bolt-on camper.

I agree, until I suddenly needed one. And then I really needed one - it was obvious, and no one had to tell me so. I ordered one for each body the next day, and I seldom take them off now.

But before that it was just like you say - extra bulk for no good reason.

stevebrot · 06-20-2014, 10:12 PM

Originally posted by OregonJim

the grip gives me peace of mind that I can walk into the nearest 7-11 for AA's and keep my gear going.

That was my one misgiving when I sold the grip. The option to use AA's is a good thing and one of the strong points of both the K-30 and K-50.

Steve

---------- Post added 06-20-14 at 10:16 PM ----------

Originally posted by DSims

I agree, until I suddenly needed one. And then I really needed one - it was obvious, and no one had to tell me so. I ordered one for each body the next day, and I seldom take them off now.

But before that it was just like you say - extra bulk for no good reason.

I will likely change my mind if I ever have to do any traditional portraiture

As is now, I often shoot vertical rotated right and release the shutter using whatever finger is handy.

Steve

---------- Post added 06-20-14 at 10:27 PM ----------

Originally posted by OregonJim

It has happened to me once or twice with the K-3.

I hear you in regards to the K-3 battery life. That characteristic in tandem with the long time to charge is why I am going to order a backup this next week.

Steve

(...am thinking about when my daughter's Pentax charger fried her K10D battery in the middle of the great Indian Thar Desert leaving her with a smoking charger, no power options, and the nearest Pentax dealer some 2000 miles away...)

tkj365 · 06-21-2014, 05:24 AM

Originally posted by DSims

No offense taken

- I'm a native of this "hell hole" called California that's always been a favorite place for Japanese to live and raise their children (such as many of my classmates growing up). Actually, I was even offended by your saying that about Phoenix, AZ - and I've never even lived there! Unless you're literally talking about the heat only. Honestly, if there's not somewhere you like in California I wonder what's wrong with you. You don't have to like the nicer Southern California beaches where I live, but there's the Redwoods, Lake Tahoe, the ski resorts, the central coast, the high desert, San Diego, Yosemite, ... there's got to be somewhere you like! It's just a guess, but I think you'll find fewer Japanese grocery stores in Colorado!

Anyhow, you may indeed need to move away from there - especially if you're in a bad neighborhood or household. But are you prepared to be happy elsewhere? Has it worked in the past? If so you should make the change right away, but if not ...

LOL! Sorry. Temperature, not people! I know the upper Cali area is nice too. Cali also tends to be a bit overpriced -- though admittedly I am not sure about the north. In regard to elsewhere -- oh yes. I have lived in Ireland, Japan, Etc. and been quite happy. I just can't take the heat that makes you feel like your skin is melting when you step out your front door.

Ultimately I am waiting on Pentax to have a button on the camera that simply rotates the image sensor inside...

p38arover · 06-21-2014, 06:26 AM

I bought grips for both my K-7 and K-5.

One has only been taken out of the box but never used. The other is only used when shooting with the DA* 60-250 and then only to better balance the combo in the hand.

I haven't come to grips with using the grip for portrait orientation. (Sorry about that

)

**Rondec** · 06-21-2014, 07:46 AM

Traditionally, Pentax hasn't had a grip for cameras, except the flagship cameras. The K200 is the only exception that I can think of. That's one of the reasons why people buy upper end cameras K5/K5 II/K3, along with faster operation, deeper buffers, and more buttons (along with other things). If you need a grip, I wouldn't hesitate to get a used K5 or K5 II and sell your K30. It really wouldn't be that hard to do.

Parallax · 06-21-2014, 08:06 AM

Originally posted by wilton

I just picked up a K-30 (seemed Identical to the K-50 to me for less money) and I am so disappointed that there is no battery grip for this model.

So let me see if I understand this: you bought the K-30 because it was cheaper than the K-50 and are now disappointed that it doesn't have the same features as the more expensive K-50. Right?
Sorry, but this is a bit like saying "I bought a Camaro because it was cheaper than the Corvette and I'm really disappointed that it doesn't have all the features or handle the same".

tkj365 · 06-21-2014, 09:41 AM

Originally posted by Parallax

So let me see if I understand this: you bought the K-30 because it was cheaper than the K-50 and are now disappointed that it doesn't have the same features as the more expensive K-50. Right?
Sorry, but this is a bit like saying "I bought a Camaro because it was cheaper than the Corvette and I'm really disappointed that it doesn't have all the features or handle the same".

Does the K-50 have a Grip?

Parallax · 06-21-2014, 11:02 AM

Originally posted by tkj365

Does the K-50 have a Grip?

No, as far as I know it doesn't. I haven't researched it though, as I would if I were considering buying one. The OP's basic complaint appears to be that he's disappointed that Pentax's cheapest camera doesn't have the same features/capabilities as the more expensive ones. He didn't do the research before buying so therefore there's something wrong with Pentax.

OregonJim · 06-21-2014, 11:50 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by tkj365

Ultimately I am waiting on Pentax to have a button on the camera that simply rotates the image sensor inside...

Wow - did this comment just slip by everyone?

What a cool idea! Ricoh, are you listening?

(I'm not sure how that would play with the viewfinder & pentaprism - requires some additional thinking)

DSims · 06-21-2014, 12:01 PM

Originally posted by tkj365

Cali also tends to be a bit overpriced

No doubt it can be expensive. But there are plenty of places in California with acceptable temperatures, which is what confused me. You obviously haven't been to the right spots - including a nearby city who's motto is "world's best climate" - and it actually might be right!

stevebrot · 06-21-2014, 02:21 PM

Originally posted by tkj365

I am not sure about the north.

Terrible, simply TERRIBLE. You are best to resettle elsewhere...

Steve

---------- Post added 06-21-14 at 02:23 PM ----------

Originally posted by Parallax

So let me see if I understand this: you bought the K-30 because it was cheaper than the K-50 and are now disappointed that it doesn't have the same features as the more expensive K-50. Right?

No, the OP bought the K-30 because it was cheaper than the K-50 and is disappointed because it does not have the same features as the K-3.

Steve

DSims · 06-21-2014, 02:54 PM

Originally posted by stevebrot

No, the OP bought the K-30 because it was cheaper than the K-50 and is disappointed because it does not have the same features as the K-3.

Ricoh pulling a clear case of bait-and-switch!

Parallax · 06-21-2014, 03:20 PM

Originally posted by stevebrot

No, the OP bought the K-30 because it was cheaper than the K-50 and is disappointed because it does not have the same features as the K-3.

Steve

Okay, now I understand.

Originally posted by DSims

Ricoh pulling a clear case of bait-and-switch!

Clearly.

**Kerrowdown** · 06-22-2014, 01:50 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by wilton

I'm new here and a little disappointed

Welcome to the forum, is this not just a case of "caveat emptor', meanwhile enjoy this one until your in a position to be able to upgrade to what you would really like in the future.

tkj365 · 06-22-2014, 06:43 AM

Originally posted by OregonJim

Wow - did this comment just slip by everyone?

What a cool idea! Ricoh, are you listening?

(I'm not sure how that would play with the viewfinder & pentaprism - requires some additional thinking)

The Pentaprism would just need to be bigger. Then you mask it according to the rotation. Not too difficult. I may have to buy and K200 and see what I can hack up.

06-20-2014, 10:12 PM	#17
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by OregonJim the grip gives me peace of mind that I can walk into the nearest 7-11 for AA's and keep my gear going. That was my one misgiving when I sold the grip. The option to use AA's is a good thing and one of the strong points of both the K-30 and K-50. Steve ---------- Post added 06-20-14 at 10:16 PM ---------- Originally posted by DSims I agree, until I suddenly needed one. And then I really needed one - it was obvious, and no one had to tell me so. I ordered one for each body the next day, and I seldom take them off now. But before that it was just like you say - extra bulk for no good reason. I will likely change my mind if I ever have to do any traditional portraiture As is now, I often shoot vertical rotated right and release the shutter using whatever finger is handy. Steve ---------- Post added 06-20-14 at 10:27 PM ---------- Originally posted by OregonJim It has happened to me once or twice with the K-3. I hear you in regards to the K-3 battery life. That characteristic in tandem with the long time to charge is why I am going to order a backup this next week. Steve (...am thinking about when my daughter's Pentax charger fried her K10D battery in the middle of the great Indian Thar Desert leaving her with a smoking charger, no power options, and the nearest Pentax dealer some 2000 miles away...) Last edited by stevebrot; 06-20-2014 at 10:28 PM.

06-21-2014, 05:24 AM	#18
tkj365 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Chandler, AZ Posts: 142	Originally posted by DSims No offense taken - I'm a native of this "hell hole" called California that's always been a favorite place for Japanese to live and raise their children (such as many of my classmates growing up). Actually, I was even offended by your saying that about Phoenix, AZ - and I've never even lived there! Unless you're literally talking about the heat only. Honestly, if there's not somewhere you like in California I wonder what's wrong with you. You don't have to like the nicer Southern California beaches where I live, but there's the Redwoods, Lake Tahoe, the ski resorts, the central coast, the high desert, San Diego, Yosemite, ... there's got to be somewhere you like! It's just a guess, but I think you'll find fewer Japanese grocery stores in Colorado! Anyhow, you may indeed need to move away from there - especially if you're in a bad neighborhood or household. But are you prepared to be happy elsewhere? Has it worked in the past? If so you should make the change right away, but if not ... LOL! Sorry. Temperature, not people! I know the upper Cali area is nice too. Cali also tends to be a bit overpriced -- though admittedly I am not sure about the north. In regard to elsewhere -- oh yes. I have lived in Ireland, Japan, Etc. and been quite happy. I just can't take the heat that makes you feel like your skin is melting when you step out your front door. Ultimately I am waiting on Pentax to have a button on the camera that simply rotates the image sensor inside... Last edited by tkj365; 06-21-2014 at 05:30 AM.

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06-20-2014, 10:09 PM	#16
DSims Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Southern California Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,236	Originally posted by stevebrot If you just want the grip for the vertical hold, it is my opinion that option is highly overrated. Your K-30 is a sports car, why saddle it with a bolt-on camper. I agree, until I suddenly needed one. And then I really needed one - it was obvious, and no one had to tell me so. I ordered one for each body the next day, and I seldom take them off now. But before that it was just like you say - extra bulk for no good reason.

06-21-2014, 06:26 AM	#19
p38arover Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Western Sydney, Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,084	I bought grips for both my K-7 and K-5. One has only been taken out of the box but never used. The other is only used when shooting with the DA* 60-250 and then only to better balance the combo in the hand. I haven't come to grips with using the grip for portrait orientation. (Sorry about that )

06-21-2014, 07:46 AM	#20
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,666	Traditionally, Pentax hasn't had a grip for cameras, except the flagship cameras. The K200 is the only exception that I can think of. That's one of the reasons why people buy upper end cameras K5/K5 II/K3, along with faster operation, deeper buffers, and more buttons (along with other things). If you need a grip, I wouldn't hesitate to get a used K5 or K5 II and sell your K30. It really wouldn't be that hard to do.

06-21-2014, 08:06 AM	#21
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,333	Originally posted by wilton I just picked up a K-30 (seemed Identical to the K-50 to me for less money) and I am so disappointed that there is no battery grip for this model. So let me see if I understand this: you bought the K-30 because it was cheaper than the K-50 and are now disappointed that it doesn't have the same features as the more expensive K-50. Right? Sorry, but this is a bit like saying "I bought a Camaro because it was cheaper than the Corvette and I'm really disappointed that it doesn't have all the features or handle the same".

06-21-2014, 09:41 AM	#22
tkj365 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Chandler, AZ Posts: 142	Originally posted by Parallax So let me see if I understand this: you bought the K-30 because it was cheaper than the K-50 and are now disappointed that it doesn't have the same features as the more expensive K-50. Right? Sorry, but this is a bit like saying "I bought a Camaro because it was cheaper than the Corvette and I'm really disappointed that it doesn't have all the features or handle the same". Does the K-50 have a Grip?

06-21-2014, 11:02 AM	#23
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,333	Originally posted by tkj365 Does the K-50 have a Grip? No, as far as I know it doesn't. I haven't researched it though, as I would if I were considering buying one. The OP's basic complaint appears to be that he's disappointed that Pentax's cheapest camera doesn't have the same features/capabilities as the more expensive ones. He didn't do the research before buying so therefore there's something wrong with Pentax.

06-21-2014, 11:50 AM - 1 Like	#24
OregonJim Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Willamette Valley, Oregon Posts: 1,327	Originally posted by tkj365 Ultimately I am waiting on Pentax to have a button on the camera that simply rotates the image sensor inside... Wow - did this comment just slip by everyone? What a cool idea! Ricoh, are you listening? (I'm not sure how that would play with the viewfinder & pentaprism - requires some additional thinking)

06-21-2014, 12:01 PM	#25
DSims Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Southern California Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,236	Originally posted by tkj365 Cali also tends to be a bit overpriced No doubt it can be expensive. But there are plenty of places in California with acceptable temperatures, which is what confused me. You obviously haven't been to the right spots - including a nearby city who's motto is "world's best climate" - and it actually might be right!

06-21-2014, 02:21 PM	#26
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by tkj365 I am not sure about the north. Terrible, simply TERRIBLE. You are best to resettle elsewhere... Steve ---------- Post added 06-21-14 at 02:23 PM ---------- Originally posted by Parallax So let me see if I understand this: you bought the K-30 because it was cheaper than the K-50 and are now disappointed that it doesn't have the same features as the more expensive K-50. Right? No, the OP bought the K-30 because it was cheaper than the K-50 and is disappointed because it does not have the same features as the K-3. Steve

06-21-2014, 02:54 PM	#27
DSims Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Southern California Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,236	Originally posted by stevebrot No, the OP bought the K-30 because it was cheaper than the K-50 and is disappointed because it does not have the same features as the K-3. Ricoh pulling a clear case of bait-and-switch!

06-21-2014, 03:20 PM	#28
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,333	Originally posted by stevebrot No, the OP bought the K-30 because it was cheaper than the K-50 and is disappointed because it does not have the same features as the K-3. Steve Okay, now I understand. Originally posted by DSims Ricoh pulling a clear case of bait-and-switch! Clearly.

06-22-2014, 01:50 AM - 1 Like	#29
Kerrowdown PEG Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Highlands of Scotland... "Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand" - William Blake Photos: Gallery Posts: 57,864	Originally posted by wilton I'm new here and a little disappointed Welcome to the forum, is this not just a case of "caveat emptor', meanwhile enjoy this one until your in a position to be able to upgrade to what you would really like in the future.

06-22-2014, 06:43 AM	#30
tkj365 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Chandler, AZ Posts: 142	Originally posted by OregonJim Wow - did this comment just slip by everyone? What a cool idea! Ricoh, are you listening? (I'm not sure how that would play with the viewfinder & pentaprism - requires some additional thinking) The Pentaprism would just need to be bigger. Then you mask it according to the rotation. Not too difficult. I may have to buy and K200 and see what I can hack up.