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04-03-2016, 02:42 AM   #1
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Advice on Pentax K1 Needed

Hi everyone,
I'm new to the forums. I'm thinking about buying the new Pentax K1 but since l'm new to photography, l need some help from you guys!!
So l like The grip that Pentax cameras offer. I previously owned a K5 and it felt good in the hand every time l used it. I used to pair it with a limited DA40mm lens which delivered some very good results. It was fairly slow though which annoyed me more often than not. I just need someone to tell me whether K1 is worth it and which lens l should pair it with. I need one general purpose lens that can work well in all situations whenever l travel with my family for vacation. I also need it to be as fast as possible as l wanted to capture my little children that run in all direction while playing
Please help guys
Could also consider a K3ii but l just feel it's better to buy a K1 once for all with a great lens and enjoy shooting instead of worrying about gear all the time...

Your thoughts guys
Thanks a LOT

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First of all, Welcome to the forum. I have a K-3 now but will be buying the K-1 once it is available to purchase. The lens I've decided to buy to pair up with the K-1 is the smc FA 31mm F1.8 AL Limited which is a versatile and very fast lens. You can look this lens up in the Pentax Lens Reviews on this forum. I have quite a few Sigma lenses which are Full Frame and a few DC lenses I can use in crop mode. Hope this helps.
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Welcome to the forum, K1s already coming this way too, but remember you can also use older glass, as I shall be with my "Ladies"
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Welcome. You're new to photography but previously had a K-5 and a DA40?

Don't over-worry about gear - it's a means to an end and it's you that will be taking the photos. The K-1 will be worth it - if you really want or need a camera with a 36x24 sensor; only you can decide that. You can use great lenses on the APS-c cameras also! A 35mm film format sensor will not necessarily be 'better' than its APS-c siblings - but certainly more expensive; the different formats have different strengths and weaknesses. In addition you'll need reasonable computing power to process 36MP RAWs (assuming you'll be shooting RAW).

Don't fool yourself into thinking that the K-1 would provide faultless sharpness out of the box; even moving from the 16MP AA K-5 to the 24MP non-AA K-3II was a learning experience in technique for me, and I suspect those moving to the K-1 may well find the same.

Also, if you're looking for a one-lens solution then the K-1 may not be the ideal place to start - it's an interchangeable lens camera after all. A fast prime is unlikely to satisfy this requirement, so you'll likely be thinking of zooms. There's the FA 28-105 which covers wide to short tele, but as it has a maximum aperture of f3.5, it's half a stop slower than the DA40 Limited which was too slow for you. Even expensive high-end zooms are rarely faster than your old DA40. Then if you wanted longer reach, you'd need to change lenses.

APS-c has some 'super-zooms' that cover wide to tele, but they are often less than stellar performers due to optical compromises made in creating a wide zoom range. I'm not trying to put you off; just wouldn't want you to spend serious money and then be disappointed with the output.

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A k-1 would pair nicely with an FA 43mm f1.9 limited lens (or the new DFA 24-70 f2.8)
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QuoteOriginally posted by HAC Quote
. I just need someone to tell me whether K1 is worth it .... I need one general purpose lens that can work well in all situations whenever l travel with my family for vacation. I also need it to be as fast as possible as l wanted to capture my little children that run in all direction while playing
I don't want to be the one seen as discouraging you from buying anything, but honestly, if you need convincing that the K1 is right for you, it's not right for you.
SLR's by nature are not designed to be one size fits all, nor one lens for everything. You can save yourself a whole lot of money and weight and try something like the GR or its equivalent.
If you don't like the idea of changing lenses, if you want just a general purpose all around travel snapshot camera and if budget is an issue, you don't want a DSLR.
For the cost of the K1 plus a really good zoom, you can get a very good point and shoot and take a family of 3 to Disneyland. I think that's money better spent and you still get a camera that suits your needs.
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Welcome to the forum!!

Yes, the K1 is worth it - if you know what you want and why you want it, along with specifically how you are going to use it. For your situation, I would think that it would perform similar to the K5, not because of the camera, but because of the user and use cases the camera is intended for.

I have seen families at various events with a Canon 5Dx or a Nikon with a large lens shooting the little kiddos running around, with dad being the pack mule. I was at an airshow quite a while ago. Up inside an old B17 was a dad with the kids. He was trying to get a shot and it was impossible. He looked at me with my little K100 with the 10-17 fisheye, while not even aiming - but shooting from the waist, getting the kids and him along with the plane's interior in a single frame with perfect focus. They asked if I would emailed them the shot. Outside, they asked if I would take a shot with their camera - it was hugh, heavy, massive, and I did not have a clue as to how to work it, other than push the shutter - but it was auto everything.

So, it comes down to using the right tool for the various situations. The GR is a wonderful suggestion. Small, easy, simple, fast, wonderful IQ. Not everything needs a dSLR. A dSLR is intended to be used with multiple lenses, selecting the lens for the situation. I selected the 10-17, putting it on the body before getting into the plane, leaving my backpack with my wife, because I knew it was going to be very tight quarters, and the lens would give a very expansive view.

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If you end up with a K-1, for your stated use case I would get the D-FA 24~70/2.8 ZOOM. You can accomplish everything you need to for family vacation photos other than capture your children when they're 50 yards away.

But I'd ask myself whether such a choice isn't overkill when a K-3 and your DA40/2.8 Limited plus used DA21 plus DA50/1.8 can do about the same for 1/3 the money.

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Welcome. I am not sure what you mean by the 40mm lens being slow. I use a 40mm on my K-5 all the time in a variety of situations, it's my go-to lens for walking around.

I agree with the posts above regarding purchasing the the K-1 vs a K-3, as well. A K-1 costs a lot of money for the body alone, and as others have said, more pixels doesn't automatically mean a better picture.

If you really want an all around lens, the 18-135 WR is probably the best choice, quality images across a wide range, especially since you can adjust the ISO for low-light shooting as necessary.

I love the 10-17, but I wouldn't consider it an all-purpose lens, the 24-70 is another good choice. Really, even the 18-55 Kit lens is a very good lens for most situations, and it's WR as well.
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Hi HAC. Welcome to the Pentax forums. Other members here know much more than I do about the K-1, so I will just say hello and good luck with your camera and lens choice.
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Welcome to the forums, Hachim. I think the K-1 might be a lot more camera than you bargained for. Do you really need 36 MP pictures? Are you going to have enough room in your computer to store all the photos you take? Can your computer handle the processing of such large files? Do you really need all the functions that the K-1 has to offer? Are you really going to use the camera to its full potential? Are you not satisfied with the image quality that Pentax's APS-C bodies produce?

Also, the K-1 isn't even out yet, so I'm not sure if anyone can honestly comment on the performance of the K-1 in real life. (Not sure if experiences with demo models count.)

If you want a fantastic camera at a great price that you can afford, by all means, go for the K-1. Just keep in mind that Pentax already has fantastic cameras out there in the market that will more than likely satisfy your needs. Pair any of them up with the DA 16-85mm, and you've got a versatile weather resistant travel kit.
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Welcome to the forum, K1s already coming this way too, but remember you can also use older glass, as I shall be with my "Ladies"
thx a lot for your help
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First of all, Welcome to the forum. I have a K-3 now but will be buying the K-1 once it is available to purchase. The lens I've decided to buy to pair up with the K-1 is the smc FA 31mm F1.8 AL Limited which is a versatile and very fast lens. You can look this lens up in the Pentax Lens Reviews on this forum. I have quite a few Sigma lenses which are Full Frame and a few DC lenses I can use in crop mode. Hope this helps.
Thanks a lot for your help
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Hi HAC. Welcome to the Pentax forums. Other members here know much more than I do about the K-1, so I will just say hello and good luck with your camera and lens choice.
Thanks a lot for your help
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Welcome. I am not sure what you mean by the 40mm lens being slow. I use a 40mm on my K-5 all the time in a variety of situations, it's my go-to lens for walking around.

I agree with the posts above regarding purchasing the the K-1 vs a K-3, as well. A K-1 costs a lot of money for the body alone, and as others have said, more pixels doesn't automatically mean a better picture.

If you really want an all around lens, the 18-135 WR is probably the best choice, quality images across a wide range, especially since you can adjust the ISO for low-light shooting as necessary.

I love the 10-17, but I wouldn't consider it an all-purpose lens, the 24-70 is another good choice. Really, even the 18-55 Kit lens is a very good lens for most situations, and it's WR as well.
Thanks a lot for your help
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