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08-30-2016, 09:26 AM   #1
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How to find the decision between maybe nikon D810 or Pentax k1?

Hi from Berlin,

I need a little bit your support:
Everyone in Nikon/Canon/Sony-Land tell me, Pentax is slow, toooooo s l o w ...
in focusing and dark light situation.

I'm using nikon d700 and its fine, but its not up to date in focusing in dark light situation.

I wish to hear from "real pentaxians" and see, that they are right in using the k1 with the right fast lens maybe for horse race oder motorcross.
I'll be happy to hear from you in helping me to make my decision maybe nikon D810 or Pentax k1?

Most reviews are the description from the manual, only technical information. I feel, there is no practice in the review, for example real pictures with exif and pro and cons, when you now what I mean?


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08-30-2016, 09:42 AM   #2
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My Nikon D800 can be "slow" in certain situations with certain lenses. I think the two systems are "approximately similar" across the board, with the K-1 having a slight edge in some features and the D8** having a slight edge in others. I don't think either the D8** (or the K-1) is a clear "winner" here -- it depends what you value. Sometime this fall I plan on renting a K-1 + 15-30mm and do an exhaustive comparison to my D800 + 14-24mm and see where the chips end up laying!

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QuoteOriginally posted by Mr.Alan Quote
Everyone in Nikon/Canon/Sony-Land tell me, Pentax is slow, toooooo s l o w ... in focusing and dark light situation.
Slow comments usually are from people using the tracking, not auto focus. They tend to assume that everyone uses tracking and it is the only part of autofocus that is important. I use the K-1 professionally and the autofocus is fast, solid and reliable. Nearly 100% accurate. But I do not use tracking of birds or whatever.

As to low light, I recently shot for an article inside a refrigerated storage facility. The only light was what we could make with our cell phones. K-1 locked onto subjects I could not see myself. Accuracy was 80% plus. It did fail to lock sometimes, but a second try usually worked. This is inside a closed refrigerated building with no light except my cell phone. I was truly amazed.
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I highly suggest renting. This will let you validate before dropping major cash on either.

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Hi there, thanks for the first time. I'll look for renting the equipment.
I always use single autofocus, not continuous autofocus. I like to have it in my hands, when it is sharp or not. So I'm looking how the k1 will work.

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Welcome, renting is a good way to compare both and see which one best suits your needs.
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When it comes to AF performance, lenses are just as important as the body. Be sure to consider the performance of the lenses you're interested in as well.

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I don't that the K-1 was designed for sports and fast action from both the AF and FPS perspective. I've read good things about the new Nikon D500 for sports

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Maybe check the K1 photo thread, there seems to be a bit of motorX and horseracing in there(as well as all the great other stuff the K1 excels at).
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Do you own many Nikon lenses? Because if you do, that may be the way to go.

As far as auto focus goes, it is very solid with AF-S. It is with AF-C and tracking that some have had problems. Even there, it is user dependent and plenty of people have demonstrated nice tracking shots.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Mr.Alan Quote
maybe for horse race oder motorcross.
G'day and welcome to the forums.

Your choice of cameras for this style of photography is interesting as I thought they were both better suited to more static subjects. I use a K-1 and have captured motocross and Superbike racing and no doubt the D810 can do just as well if not better. I don't have experience with the D810 but I'd have thought there would be less difference in performance imagery than say the D5/D500 and the K-1 as these are cameras aimed at action photography.

Of course you may be like me and you're after a 'jack of all trades' camera as you don't have a limitless budget to double up on cameras for specific roles.

As suggested, if you can try renting this will give you a better understanding of what each can offer better than anyone's opinions.

Good luck with your decision, though to be honest these days there are no bad cameras, just cameras with features and compromises that will suit your needs better than other options.

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The shortcut to motocross done with K-1 thread is below:

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/190-pentax-k-1/328166-pentax-k-1-does-mot...mx-racing.html

---------- Post added 08-30-16 at 06:34 PM ----------

The shortcut to horse racing done with K-1 thread is below.

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/190-pentax-k-1/326010-pentax-k-1-does-some-horse-racing.html

---------- Post added 08-30-16 at 06:37 PM ----------

Shortcut to more motocross done with K-1 (full set by Karl Knipser) images below.

Motocross | Flickr

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Hi Alan,


The K-1 is rated to -3eV for autofocus.


If you were going to concentrate on sports shooting, neither the K-1 or D810 suit - you're better off with the D5.


If you're after a more versatile camera, you'll get triple the pixels with the K-1 or D810 than your D700.
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QuoteOriginally posted by clackers Quote
If you were going to concentrate on sports shooting, neither the K-1 or D810 suit - you're better off with the D5.
Agree, sounds like you need a sports shooter. You may want to take a look at the D500 as well.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Mr.Alan Quote
Hi from Berlin,
Hi Alan. Welcome to the Pentax forums. Excellent advice and suggestions already given, so I will just say hello and good to have you here.
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