Hello From TEXAS

Kennygee · 06-05-2018, 08:12 AM

Long time Pentax user , but last camera I bought new was a Canon Digital Rebel XT- 8 mp. The one new before that was a ME Super #3671051 that I still use on occasion when I shoot B&W. I am going to buy a new camera in the very near future and have been looking at the Pentax line up even though I have $$$ in the other company lenses. I shoot mostly candid Family and landscape and wildlife/birds, little to no video. I don't think I can afford the K-1 and new lenses for it. I still have a couple of lenses for the ME, but none are real high quality. The K-3ii looks nice but might wait for the upgrade model if it might come in the $1000.00-$1200.00 range. This will probably be the last ? camera I buy for the next 10-15 years and I don't want to regret it!! I still have my Kodak Disc camera also POS that was!!
Any thoughts and recommendations appreciated!

DeadJohn · 06-05-2018, 09:33 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Kennygee

I shoot mostly candid Family and landscape and wildlife/birds

Welcome to PF.

How seriously do you want to get into birding? Long telephoto lenses can get expensive. Have reasonable expectations and you'll be okay.

The K-1 is great for landscapes but it's larger sensor doesn't matter for small birds. You can get similar wildlife performance from the less expensive K-70. Any modern Pentax is a huge leap above your old Rebel XT.

You mentioned $1200 budget. Is that for camera + lens? What lenses do you currently have for your Canon? We can make suggestions that cover a similar range in Pentax-land.

bertwert · 06-05-2018, 11:40 AM

Welcome to the forum, there is lots of great advice that you will find here!
You certainly won't regret buying a good Pentax DSLR.
Cheers!

Kennygee · 06-05-2018, 12:08 PM

I have a 70-200 f2.8 canon and Tokina atx? 28/70 , 2.8 also 50 1.8 canon and a Tokina 400 atx auto. .Only the Tokina 400 was purchased used. All are full frame lenses. I have been considering Canon 6d to get the most out of these. I still have several Pentax but cheap second hand . $1200 would be camera and something like the Tokina 28/70 2.8 that I have now and really like it. I have been really looking at K-3ii , but am wondering about what is next? for the future in this line? I really don't think I can afford K-1 being retired and fixed income

Thanks for the suggestions ps I do not at this time use any post production software and probably won't

C_Jones · 06-05-2018, 12:53 PM

Welcome to Pentax forums.

I have a K-3 II and it is certainly a great camera. If you bought one you would not regret it, but I want to say that it might be a good idea to wait for its successor (newer model) to come out (as you mentioned). There are technology upgrades that you might get with the next camera body. I know it is sort of hard to tell what it may be like or what it may cost, but as I said it may be a nice idea to wait and then make your choice.

Good luck!

DeadJohn · 06-05-2018, 04:33 PM

Originally posted by Kennygee

I have a 70-200 f2.8 canon and Tokina atx? 28/70 , 2.8 also 50 1.8 canon and a Tokina 400 atx auto. .Only the Tokina 400 was purchased used. All are full frame lenses. I have been considering Canon 6d to get the most out of these. I still have several Pentax but cheap second hand . $1200 would be camera and something like the Tokina 28/70 2.8 that I have now and really like it. I have been really looking at K-3ii , but am wondering about what is next? for the future in this line? I really don't think I can afford K-1 being retired and fixed income

Thanks for the suggestions ps I do not at this time use any post production software and probably won't

I'll be a heretic. If you already have a 70-200 and 400 in Canon mount, why not get a new APS-C Canon body for wildlife? It will be leaps above your old camera, and also handle landscapes.

Yes, Pentax is IMO superior for landscapes, but if you want to save cost and effort building a new lens collection look at the Canon 80D or 7D Mark 2?

Unregistered User 8 · 06-06-2018, 12:25 AM

Welcome from Australia.

Kennygee · 06-06-2018, 09:28 AM

Dead John , I hope You are still around after Your reply!!! Yes I have been looking at Canon for a replacement, but thought I would go "kick some tires". Canon 6d FF is running $1k new - refurb $900 - 7dii $1350 new -$1200 refurb-- 80d 1k new- $800 refurb All refurb $ are direct from Canon website.
I think I might just wait till later in year and see what happens in September. Thanks Kenny

**Kerrowdown** · 06-06-2018, 12:58 PM

Originally posted by Kennygee

don't think I can afford the K-1

Welcome, it's definitely worth it if you can find a way.

DeadJohn · 06-06-2018, 03:47 PM

Originally posted by Kennygee

Dead John , I hope You are still around after Your reply!!! Yes I have been looking at Canon for a replacement, but thought I would go "kick some tires". Canon 6d FF is running $1k new - refurb $900 - 7dii $1350 new -$1200 refurb-- 80d 1k new- $800 refurb All refurb $ are direct from Canon website.
I think I might just wait till later in year and see what happens in September. Thanks Kenny

6D seems like a mistake for wildlife. Slower frame rate and less pixel density than those other Canon options. I might be reading too much into your birding requirements.

If the 6D meets your needs, though, the Pentax K-70 is IMO a better camera for less money.

C_Jones · 06-07-2018, 10:00 AM

Originally posted by Kennygee

Dead John , I hope You are still around after Your reply!!! Yes I have been looking at Canon for a replacement, but thought I would go "kick some tires". Canon 6d FF is running $1k new - refurb $900 - 7dii $1350 new -$1200 refurb-- 80d 1k new- $800 refurb All refurb $ are direct from Canon website.
I think I might just wait till later in year and see what happens in September. Thanks Kenny

Sounds like a good idea to wait. That way you won't regret missing out on anything that may come up.

Happy shooting!

**ChipB** · 06-07-2018, 03:22 PM

Welcome to the Pentax Forum - lots of great, helpful folks here who aren't too bound up in the "brand" wars - they'll try to help yo find the best solution to meet your needs.

I had a K-3 (5th or 6th Pentax DSLR - kept upgrading) - used it for several years - great camera but decided the grass was greener elsewhere (looking for less expensive long lenses). Bought an 80D but I do miss the K-3.

**17dew** · 06-07-2018, 03:32 PM

Welcome to the forums!

DeadJohn · 06-07-2018, 08:58 PM

Originally posted by C_Jones

Sounds like a good idea to wait. That way you won't regret missing out on anything that may come up.

Happy shooting!

There's always new tech coming and the OP risks waiting a long time or forever, because there will always be some new product in the pipeline.

It's smart to wait for availability of an already-announced product if it perfectly meets your needs. Waiting and hoping for some new product results in many lost opportunities.

Evie · 06-19-2018, 08:34 PM

Hi, welcome to forum!

Not sure where exactly you are in TX (yes, it is big), if somewhere close, could organize some meetup and try some cameras/lenses.

06-05-2018, 08:12 AM	#1
Kennygee Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: . Posts: 228	Hello From TEXAS Long time Pentax user , but last camera I bought new was a Canon Digital Rebel XT- 8 mp. The one new before that was a ME Super #3671051 that I still use on occasion when I shoot B&W. I am going to buy a new camera in the very near future and have been looking at the Pentax line up even though I have $$$ in the other company lenses. I shoot mostly candid Family and landscape and wildlife/birds, little to no video. I don't think I can afford the K-1 and new lenses for it. I still have a couple of lenses for the ME, but none are real high quality. The K-3ii looks nice but might wait for the upgrade model if it might come in the $1000.00-$1200.00 range. This will probably be the last ? camera I buy for the next 10-15 years and I don't want to regret it!! I still have my Kodak Disc camera also POS that was!! Any thoughts and recommendations appreciated!

06-05-2018, 12:08 PM	#4
Kennygee Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: . Posts: 228 Original Poster	Canon lenses I have a 70-200 f2.8 canon and Tokina atx? 28/70 , 2.8 also 50 1.8 canon and a Tokina 400 atx auto. .Only the Tokina 400 was purchased used. All are full frame lenses. I have been considering Canon 6d to get the most out of these. I still have several Pentax but cheap second hand . $1200 would be camera and something like the Tokina 28/70 2.8 that I have now and really like it. I have been really looking at K-3ii , but am wondering about what is next? for the future in this line? I really don't think I can afford K-1 being retired and fixed income Thanks for the suggestions ps I do not at this time use any post production software and probably won't

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06-05-2018, 09:33 AM - 1 Like	#2
DeadJohn Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New York Posts: 4,834	Originally posted by Kennygee I shoot mostly candid Family and landscape and wildlife/birds Welcome to PF. How seriously do you want to get into birding? Long telephoto lenses can get expensive. Have reasonable expectations and you'll be okay. The K-1 is great for landscapes but it's larger sensor doesn't matter for small birds. You can get similar wildlife performance from the less expensive K-70. Any modern Pentax is a huge leap above your old Rebel XT. You mentioned $1200 budget. Is that for camera + lens? What lenses do you currently have for your Canon? We can make suggestions that cover a similar range in Pentax-land.

06-05-2018, 11:40 AM	#3
bertwert Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Golden, BC Posts: 15,172	Welcome to the forum, there is lots of great advice that you will find here! You certainly won't regret buying a good Pentax DSLR. Cheers!

06-05-2018, 12:53 PM	#5
C_Jones Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: NY Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,084	Welcome to Pentax forums. I have a K-3 II and it is certainly a great camera. If you bought one you would not regret it, but I want to say that it might be a good idea to wait for its successor (newer model) to come out (as you mentioned). There are technology upgrades that you might get with the next camera body. I know it is sort of hard to tell what it may be like or what it may cost, but as I said it may be a nice idea to wait and then make your choice. Good luck!

06-05-2018, 04:33 PM	#6
DeadJohn Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New York Posts: 4,834	Originally posted by Kennygee I have a 70-200 f2.8 canon and Tokina atx? 28/70 , 2.8 also 50 1.8 canon and a Tokina 400 atx auto. .Only the Tokina 400 was purchased used. All are full frame lenses. I have been considering Canon 6d to get the most out of these. I still have several Pentax but cheap second hand . $1200 would be camera and something like the Tokina 28/70 2.8 that I have now and really like it. I have been really looking at K-3ii , but am wondering about what is next? for the future in this line? I really don't think I can afford K-1 being retired and fixed income Thanks for the suggestions ps I do not at this time use any post production software and probably won't I'll be a heretic. If you already have a 70-200 and 400 in Canon mount, why not get a new APS-C Canon body for wildlife? It will be leaps above your old camera, and also handle landscapes. Yes, Pentax is IMO superior for landscapes, but if you want to save cost and effort building a new lens collection look at the Canon 80D or 7D Mark 2?

06-06-2018, 12:25 AM	#7
Unregistered User 8 Closed Account Join Date: Mar 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,694	Welcome from Australia.

06-06-2018, 09:28 AM	#8
Kennygee Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: . Posts: 228 Original Poster	Dead John , I hope You are still around after Your reply!!! Yes I have been looking at Canon for a replacement, but thought I would go "kick some tires". Canon 6d FF is running $1k new - refurb $900 - 7dii $1350 new -$1200 refurb-- 80d 1k new- $800 refurb All refurb $ are direct from Canon website. I think I might just wait till later in year and see what happens in September. Thanks Kenny

06-06-2018, 12:58 PM	#9
Kerrowdown PEG Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Highlands of Scotland... "Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand" - William Blake Photos: Gallery Posts: 57,863	Originally posted by Kennygee don't think I can afford the K-1 Welcome, it's definitely worth it if you can find a way.

06-06-2018, 03:47 PM	#10
DeadJohn Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New York Posts: 4,834	Originally posted by Kennygee Dead John , I hope You are still around after Your reply!!! Yes I have been looking at Canon for a replacement, but thought I would go "kick some tires". Canon 6d FF is running $1k new - refurb $900 - 7dii $1350 new -$1200 refurb-- 80d 1k new- $800 refurb All refurb $ are direct from Canon website. I think I might just wait till later in year and see what happens in September. Thanks Kenny 6D seems like a mistake for wildlife. Slower frame rate and less pixel density than those other Canon options. I might be reading too much into your birding requirements. If the 6D meets your needs, though, the Pentax K-70 is IMO a better camera for less money.

06-07-2018, 10:00 AM	#11
C_Jones Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: NY Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,084	Originally posted by Kennygee Dead John , I hope You are still around after Your reply!!! Yes I have been looking at Canon for a replacement, but thought I would go "kick some tires". Canon 6d FF is running $1k new - refurb $900 - 7dii $1350 new -$1200 refurb-- 80d 1k new- $800 refurb All refurb $ are direct from Canon website. I think I might just wait till later in year and see what happens in September. Thanks Kenny Sounds like a good idea to wait. That way you won't regret missing out on anything that may come up. Happy shooting!

06-07-2018, 03:22 PM	#12
ChipB Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Eau Claire, WI Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,717	Welcome to the Pentax Forum - lots of great, helpful folks here who aren't too bound up in the "brand" wars - they'll try to help yo find the best solution to meet your needs. I had a K-3 (5th or 6th Pentax DSLR - kept upgrading) - used it for several years - great camera but decided the grass was greener elsewhere (looking for less expensive long lenses). Bought an 80D but I do miss the K-3.

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06-07-2018, 08:58 PM	#14
DeadJohn Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New York Posts: 4,834	Originally posted by C_Jones Sounds like a good idea to wait. That way you won't regret missing out on anything that may come up. Happy shooting! There's always new tech coming and the OP risks waiting a long time or forever, because there will always be some new product in the pipeline. It's smart to wait for availability of an already-announced product if it perfectly meets your needs. Waiting and hoping for some new product results in many lost opportunities.

06-19-2018, 08:34 PM	#15
Evie Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 121	Hi, welcome to forum! Not sure where exactly you are in TX (yes, it is big), if somewhere close, could organize some meetup and try some cameras/lenses.