Originally posted by ddexter81 do you know if the 16-85 or 16-50 would work better on my camera the k70?
I'm not sure what lens he is referring to. If it's a 16-50mm then there are two - the old SMC one which has a generally poor reputation, especially for reliability, and a newer one which is reputed to be fantastic, but is quite big and expensive. I wouldn't recommend the former but I would the latter, if big and expensive is up your street.
If it's the 18-50mm then it's a very compact kit lens which should provide decent image quality but nothing outstanding. There are no "pancake" zooms for Pentax, only for micro-four-thirds.
The 16-85mm does not have a wide aperture (it doesn't let that much light in) but it is sharp with great contrast and colour. For normal landscape shooting in good light, or with a tripod in poorer light, it's perfect.