Hello from a Brazilian in Sydney - Australia

lucas001 · 01-25-2009, 05:50 PM

Hello guys,

Let me introduce myself, my name is Lucas, a Brazilian from Sao Paulo, living in Oz for about 3 years, and I work with marketing... I've been always a photography lover but never got a chance to own a DSLR, only small compact cameras like the Fuji Finepix S5000 ages ago.
I've just bought a Pentax K100D with a lens kit - 55-200mm and 18-50mm.
I'm learning and hoping to get good shot soon

I like macros, landscapes and motor sport photos (being myself a motorcycle rider and riding in the race track)
I'm uploading a couple of my latest shots, any comments will be appreciated. Thank you.

This flower picture I took in blue Mountains don't know the name hehe

That's the beautiful Three Sisters in Lithgow

This is in one of my mate's house in Concord - Sydney

Blue Mountains again

Eastern Creek - tried to blur the background to give the speed sensation, but not exactly good...

Last edited by lucas001; 01-25-2009 at 09:17 PM.

roentarre · 01-25-2009, 09:07 PM

Wow, what a great entry into the forum and love your photographs!

Your blue mountain shots are just way better than mine! Ashamed myself...

lucas001 · 01-25-2009, 09:11 PM

thanks roentarre

im just learning, helps to live in such a nice place - Australia

dazman · 01-26-2009, 01:23 AM

Welcome Lucas & thanks for sharing your great shots with us. Enjoy the forum

dosdan · 01-26-2009, 03:11 AM

Welcome Lucas. Regarding the flowing water shot at Concord, the EXIF info shows ISO 200, F22 & 0.3s taken at 1:28pm. This is the wrong time of day. I've done a similar shot to this, made mistakes and I'd suggest 3 things:

Shoot much earlier in the day e.g. 5:30am-6:00am (daylight saving time). The light is too abundant & harsh at 1:30pm and the sun is far too high in the sky, beating straight down. Early morning & late afternoon are the "golden hours" for photography.
Try 4s-30s. Where you using a tripod? This kind of "silken water" shot requires a much longer exposure.
Consider a ND8 filter (3-stop neutral density filter: 2^3=8). For example, in this shoot, instead of 0.3s that would be 3s, still a bit too short but heading in the right direction. I used to have a K100D Super so I know that ISO 200 is the lowest sensitivity you can use.

Please look at the attempts from 3 different occasions shown in the thread below. In my opinion, the flowing water looked better in each subsequent attempt as the the exposure time increased and the time of day became earlier (in Queensland we don't have daylight savings time, so a shoot taken at 5:30am our time is equiv. to your 6:30am DST):

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/post-your-photos/39592-brisbane-botanic-g...ter-shots.html

In that thread mithrandir also suggested performing a multi-exposure (e.g. the averaging of 9 shots). If so, the very early morning would be better because of the position of the shadows & the softer light.

Consider the difference in exposure values. See Table 1 at Exposure value - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This type of shot requires a long shutter time. For the same exposure value, a longish shutter time requires a high F-number (small aperture) & a low ISO. Your F-number/shutter time/ISO indicates that the exposure value of your shot, taken at ISO 200, would be the equivalent of EV 9.5 at ISO 100, while my three "slow" attempts were at EV 6.5/5.5/6.5 at ISO 100. This indicates that there was 3-4 stops higher illumination in your shots compared to mine. So you were fighting to increase shutter time in a much higher light situation. So cut the light level (and thus increase your shutter time) by:

shooting earlier in the day
using an ND filter
use both

Dan.

lucas001 · 01-26-2009, 04:53 PM

Hi Dan! Thanks a lot for your coments! The shot you are refering to is the one from blue montains, the waterfall right? well by that time I didn't have a tripod, just got myself a nice Manfrotto 190 + ball head last week, I didn't even had a chance to try it yet. I also want to take some pictures in HDR, and from the Harbour Bridge... I will post my results soon. =D

lucas001 · 01-26-2009, 04:55 PM

sorry I forgot to ask, where can I find this filter? does Ebay have it? how much should I expect to pay for it? Thanks a lot

dosdan · 01-26-2009, 05:46 PM

You can get a ND8 from ebay or photography stores. I bought one second-hand for about $30.

Dan.

lucas001 · 01-26-2009, 10:00 PM

Thanks Dan, I foung on Ebay the ND8 + ND2 and ND4 for about 40 AU dollars, are they usefull? is that an alright price? =D

dosdan · 01-27-2009, 02:03 AM

Originally posted by lucas001

Thanks Dan, I foung on Ebay the ND8 + ND2 and ND4 for about 40 AU dollars, are they usefull? is that an alright price? =D

Well, that's not much money to blow. You won't use an ND filter often. ND8 is probably all you'll ever use and even that only on special occasions. I doubt you'll ever use ND2 & ND4.

Dan.

**Kerrowdown** · 01-29-2009, 02:18 PM

Welcome to the forum, enjoy.

lucas001 · 01-29-2009, 05:54 PM

Thanks Kerrowdown

Wombat · 01-29-2009, 11:42 PM

Welcome, samba friend. Some great pics there. Having ridden bikes for 40-odd years I was instantly drawn to the motorbike shot. Wonder why he was standing on the pegs in the middle of a race. A quick, sneaky fart, perhaps?
Very nice introduction. Look forward to seeing more of your work.

lucas001 · 01-30-2009, 04:41 AM

Thanks Wombat! the guy has just came from the pits, so he was stretching his legs LOL
I went tonight to take some pics from the harbour bridge, too windy tho!

01-25-2009, 05:50 PM	#1
lucas001 New Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Sydney Posts: 13	Hello from a Brazilian in Sydney - Australia Hello guys, Let me introduce myself, my name is Lucas, a Brazilian from Sao Paulo, living in Oz for about 3 years, and I work with marketing... I've been always a photography lover but never got a chance to own a DSLR, only small compact cameras like the Fuji Finepix S5000 ages ago. I've just bought a Pentax K100D with a lens kit - 55-200mm and 18-50mm. I'm learning and hoping to get good shot soon I like macros, landscapes and motor sport photos (being myself a motorcycle rider and riding in the race track) I'm uploading a couple of my latest shots, any comments will be appreciated. Thank you. This flower picture I took in blue Mountains don't know the name hehe That's the beautiful Three Sisters in Lithgow This is in one of my mate's house in Concord - Sydney Blue Mountains again Eastern Creek - tried to blur the background to give the speed sensation, but not exactly good... Last edited by lucas001; 01-25-2009 at 09:17 PM.

01-26-2009, 03:11 AM	#5
dosdan Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Brisbane, Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,741	Welcome Lucas. Regarding the flowing water shot at Concord, the EXIF info shows ISO 200, F22 & 0.3s taken at 1:28pm. This is the wrong time of day. I've done a similar shot to this, made mistakes and I'd suggest 3 things: Shoot much earlier in the day e.g. 5:30am-6:00am (daylight saving time). The light is too abundant & harsh at 1:30pm and the sun is far too high in the sky, beating straight down. Early morning & late afternoon are the "golden hours" for photography. Try 4s-30s. Where you using a tripod? This kind of "silken water" shot requires a much longer exposure. Consider a ND8 filter (3-stop neutral density filter: 2^3=8). For example, in this shoot, instead of 0.3s that would be 3s, still a bit too short but heading in the right direction. I used to have a K100D Super so I know that ISO 200 is the lowest sensitivity you can use. Please look at the attempts from 3 different occasions shown in the thread below. In my opinion, the flowing water looked better in each subsequent attempt as the the exposure time increased and the time of day became earlier (in Queensland we don't have daylight savings time, so a shoot taken at 5:30am our time is equiv. to your 6:30am DST): https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/post-your-photos/39592-brisbane-botanic-g...ter-shots.html In that thread mithrandir also suggested performing a multi-exposure (e.g. the averaging of 9 shots). If so, the very early morning would be better because of the position of the shadows & the softer light. Consider the difference in exposure values. See Table 1 at Exposure value - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia This type of shot requires a long shutter time. For the same exposure value, a longish shutter time requires a high F-number (small aperture) & a low ISO. Your F-number/shutter time/ISO indicates that the exposure value of your shot, taken at ISO 200, would be the equivalent of EV 9.5 at ISO 100, while my three "slow" attempts were at EV 6.5/5.5/6.5 at ISO 100. This indicates that there was 3-4 stops higher illumination in your shots compared to mine. So you were fighting to increase shutter time in a much higher light situation. So cut the light level (and thus increase your shutter time) by: shooting earlier in the day using an ND filter use both Dan. Last edited by dosdan; 01-26-2009 at 04:55 AM.

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01-25-2009, 09:07 PM	#2
roentarre Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 11,783	Wow, what a great entry into the forum and love your photographs! Your blue mountain shots are just way better than mine! Ashamed myself...

01-25-2009, 09:11 PM	#3
lucas001 New Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Sydney Posts: 13 Original Poster	thanks roentarre im just learning, helps to live in such a nice place - Australia

01-26-2009, 01:23 AM	#4
dazman Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 1,949	Welcome Lucas & thanks for sharing your great shots with us. Enjoy the forum

01-26-2009, 04:53 PM	#6
lucas001 New Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Sydney Posts: 13 Original Poster	Hi Dan! Thanks a lot for your coments! The shot you are refering to is the one from blue montains, the waterfall right? well by that time I didn't have a tripod, just got myself a nice Manfrotto 190 + ball head last week, I didn't even had a chance to try it yet. I also want to take some pictures in HDR, and from the Harbour Bridge... I will post my results soon. =D

01-26-2009, 04:55 PM	#7
lucas001 New Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Sydney Posts: 13 Original Poster	sorry I forgot to ask, where can I find this filter? does Ebay have it? how much should I expect to pay for it? Thanks a lot

01-26-2009, 05:46 PM	#8
dosdan Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Brisbane, Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,741	You can get a ND8 from ebay or photography stores. I bought one second-hand for about $30. Dan.

01-26-2009, 10:00 PM	#9
lucas001 New Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Sydney Posts: 13 Original Poster	Thanks Dan, I foung on Ebay the ND8 + ND2 and ND4 for about 40 AU dollars, are they usefull? is that an alright price? =D

01-27-2009, 02:03 AM	#10
dosdan Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Brisbane, Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,741	Originally posted by lucas001 Thanks Dan, I foung on Ebay the ND8 + ND2 and ND4 for about 40 AU dollars, are they usefull? is that an alright price? =D Well, that's not much money to blow. You won't use an ND filter often. ND8 is probably all you'll ever use and even that only on special occasions. I doubt you'll ever use ND2 & ND4. Dan.

01-29-2009, 02:18 PM	#11
Kerrowdown PEG Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Highlands of Scotland... "Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand" - William Blake Photos: Gallery Posts: 57,818	Welcome to the forum, enjoy.

01-29-2009, 05:54 PM	#12
lucas001 New Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Sydney Posts: 13 Original Poster	Thanks Kerrowdown

01-29-2009, 11:42 PM	#13
Wombat Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: South Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 901	Welcome, samba friend. Some great pics there. Having ridden bikes for 40-odd years I was instantly drawn to the motorbike shot. Wonder why he was standing on the pegs in the middle of a race. A quick, sneaky fart, perhaps? Very nice introduction. Look forward to seeing more of your work.

01-30-2009, 04:41 AM	#14
lucas001 New Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Sydney Posts: 13 Original Poster	Thanks Wombat! the guy has just came from the pits, so he was stretching his legs LOL I went tonight to take some pics from the harbour bridge, too windy tho!