News Likes system: changes

Adam · 07-05-2011, 10:19 AM

Originally posted by theunartist

Any Reason for the change?

Because the purpose of the system is to make helpful posts easier to find, rather than providing score-based reputation system solely to distinguish users.

Notice that at the top of each thread, there is a dropdown stating the top likes. If a thread is very large, the top results are usually those that have been the most helpful or to-the-point. In our new upcoming skin, the number of likes will replace thread ratings (which have already been disabled) and will be visible in the main thread listings.

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JeffJS · 07-05-2011, 11:24 AM

If this isn't supposed to be retroactive, How did I go from 258 to 119?

Adam · 07-05-2011, 11:26 AM

Originally posted by JeffJS

If this isn't supposed to be retroactive, How did I go from 258 to 119?

See related thread in the site help forum

magkelly · 07-05-2011, 12:34 PM

Okay I am totally confused now. I do have over 1K posts, and 45 "likes" but the new requirement for Pentaxian says I have to have 75 as well? (Where's the 15 come from? Page says 75 down from 100?) If so does that mean I just lost my Pentaxian status that I just now got? (I still have it I think?) I sure hope not. I was really enjoying being one, finally...

Adam · 07-05-2011, 12:41 PM

Nobody should lose their status because of this, but there are two ways of getting it:
2years membership, 200+ posts and 75 likes, or
1years membership, 1000+ posts and 15 likes

...I think. The official numbers are in a sticky in this forum

Mike.P® · 07-05-2011, 12:53 PM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by Adam

Nobody should lose their status because of this,

I lost my Pentaxian status .. I'm just a grumpy old git now

Edit: I'm a real Pentaxian once more

8540tomg · 07-05-2011, 01:06 PM

That's OK Mike. We still like you.

Tom G

Blue · 07-05-2011, 01:39 PM

Here is an interesting article in the WallStreetJournal about the "Likes" culture.

The Insidious Evils of 'Like' Culture - WSJ.com

Everyone has turned into a bunch of virtual, "like valley girls, like, ya know."

Blue · 07-05-2011, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by JeffJS

If this isn't supposed to be retroactive, How did I go from 258 to 119?

I guess the same way I went from 312 to 96.

ryan s · 07-05-2011, 02:07 PM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by Blue

Here is an interesting article in the WallStreetJournal about the "Likes" culture.

The Insidious Evils of 'Like' Culture - WSJ.com

Everyone has turned into a bunch of virtual, "like valley girls, like, ya know."

Neil Strauss ftw.

What I don't get is there will be, someday, literally millions of threads here or any other forum with 1-5 "likes." So how do we sort through the mediocrity, besides the time-honored tradition of sorting the forum by number of replies of thread views so the most popular/most viewed show up on top? If the thread is that good, it will have 5000+ views on a large forum like this.

At least with a reputation system, you can dole out negative rep. Till there's a "thumbs down" button next to the "thumbs up" one, like on YouTube, it's just going to create thousands of threads with 1 or 2 "likes," none of which are remarkable from the next.

Give me a "like" if you like that I don't care about who "likes" my posts!

Adam · 07-05-2011, 02:14 PM

I actually really like youtube's system- now that's some food for thought!

uccemebug · 07-05-2011, 02:57 PM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by ryan s

So how do we sort through the mediocrity, besides the time-honored tradition of sorting the forum by number of replies of thread views so the most popular/most viewed show up on top?

There's a system? I just show up and starting yacking.

(Like in a movie theater.)

Hmm, I've fallen from 37 to 12.

magkelly · 07-05-2011, 03:55 PM - **2 Likes**

This whole "likes" thing makes me feel like I'm back battling cliques in high school. That's one of the main reasons I don't like Facebook and such actually. It's too much like an adolescent popularity contest and I never was too into competing to be prom queen....

jsherman999 · 07-05-2011, 08:47 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by uccemebug

There's a system? I just show up and starting yacking.

(Like in a movie theater.)

Hmm, I've fallen from 37 to 12.

well, now you're back up to 13 for that post

.

**ChrisPlatt** · 07-05-2011, 09:27 PM

I'm really not interested in popularity contests.
Can I choose not to display "likes"?

Chris

07-05-2011, 11:26 AM	#18
Adam Administrator Site Webmaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 51,593 Original Poster	Originally posted by JeffJS If this isn't supposed to be retroactive, How did I go from 258 to 119? See related thread in the site help forum Adam PentaxForums.com Webmaster (Site Usage Guide \| Site Help \| My Photography) PentaxForums.com server and development costs are user-supported. You can help cover these costs by donating or purchasing one of our Pentax eBooks. Or, buy your photo gear from our affiliates, Adorama, B&H Photo, KEH, or Topaz Labs, and get FREE Marketplace access - click here to see how! Trusted Pentax retailers:

07-05-2011, 12:41 PM	#20
Adam Administrator Site Webmaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 51,593 Original Poster	Nobody should lose their status because of this, but there are two ways of getting it: 2years membership, 200+ posts and 75 likes, or 1years membership, 1000+ posts and 15 likes ...I think. The official numbers are in a sticky in this forum Adam PentaxForums.com Webmaster (Site Usage Guide \| Site Help \| My Photography) PentaxForums.com server and development costs are user-supported. You can help cover these costs by donating or purchasing one of our Pentax eBooks. Or, buy your photo gear from our affiliates, Adorama, B&H Photo, KEH, or Topaz Labs, and get FREE Marketplace access - click here to see how! Trusted Pentax retailers:

07-05-2011, 12:53 PM - 3 Likes	#21
Mike.P® Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New Milton, Hampshire, UK Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,154	Originally posted by Adam Nobody should lose their status because of this, I lost my Pentaxian status .. I'm just a grumpy old git now Edit: I'm a real Pentaxian once more Last edited by Mike.P®; 07-05-2011 at 01:52 PM.

07-05-2011, 02:14 PM	#26
Adam Administrator Site Webmaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 51,593 Original Poster	I actually really like youtube's system- now that's some food for thought! Adam PentaxForums.com Webmaster (Site Usage Guide \| Site Help \| My Photography) PentaxForums.com server and development costs are user-supported. You can help cover these costs by donating or purchasing one of our Pentax eBooks. Or, buy your photo gear from our affiliates, Adorama, B&H Photo, KEH, or Topaz Labs, and get FREE Marketplace access - click here to see how! Trusted Pentax retailers:

07-05-2011, 02:57 PM - 3 Likes	#27
uccemebug Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Tokyo Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 962	Originally posted by ryan s So how do we sort through the mediocrity, besides the time-honored tradition of sorting the forum by number of replies of thread views so the most popular/most viewed show up on top? There's a system? I just show up and starting yacking. (Like in a movie theater.) Hmm, I've fallen from 37 to 12. Last edited by uccemebug; 07-05-2011 at 02:58 PM. Reason: Oh, it stings.

07-05-2011, 10:19 AM	#16
Adam Administrator Site Webmaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 51,593 Original Poster	Originally posted by theunartist Any Reason for the change? Because the purpose of the system is to make helpful posts easier to find, rather than providing score-based reputation system solely to distinguish users. Notice that at the top of each thread, there is a dropdown stating the top likes. If a thread is very large, the top results are usually those that have been the most helpful or to-the-point. In our new upcoming skin, the number of likes will replace thread ratings (which have already been disabled) and will be visible in the main thread listings. Adam PentaxForums.com Webmaster (Site Usage Guide \| Site Help \| My Photography) PentaxForums.com server and development costs are user-supported. You can help cover these costs by donating or purchasing one of our Pentax eBooks. Or, buy your photo gear from our affiliates, Adorama, B&H Photo, KEH, or Topaz Labs, and get FREE Marketplace access - click here to see how! Trusted Pentax retailers:

07-05-2011, 11:24 AM	#17
JeffJS Inactive Account Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Michigan, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,484	If this isn't supposed to be retroactive, How did I go from 258 to 119?

07-05-2011, 12:34 PM	#19
magkelly Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,901	Okay I am totally confused now. I do have over 1K posts, and 45 "likes" but the new requirement for Pentaxian says I have to have 75 as well? (Where's the 15 come from? Page says 75 down from 100?) If so does that mean I just lost my Pentaxian status that I just now got? (I still have it I think?) I sure hope not. I was really enjoying being one, finally...

07-05-2011, 01:06 PM	#22
8540tomg Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Waterloo, Ontario Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,461	That's OK Mike. We still like you. Tom G

07-05-2011, 01:39 PM	#23
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Here is an interesting article in the WallStreetJournal about the "Likes" culture. The Insidious Evils of 'Like' Culture - WSJ.com Everyone has turned into a bunch of virtual, "like valley girls, like, ya know."

07-05-2011, 01:40 PM	#24
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by JeffJS If this isn't supposed to be retroactive, How did I go from 258 to 119? I guess the same way I went from 312 to 96.

07-05-2011, 02:07 PM - 3 Likes	#25
ryan s Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Madison, WI Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,383	Originally posted by Blue Here is an interesting article in the WallStreetJournal about the "Likes" culture. The Insidious Evils of 'Like' Culture - WSJ.com Everyone has turned into a bunch of virtual, "like valley girls, like, ya know." Neil Strauss ftw. What I don't get is there will be, someday, literally millions of threads here or any other forum with 1-5 "likes." So how do we sort through the mediocrity, besides the time-honored tradition of sorting the forum by number of replies of thread views so the most popular/most viewed show up on top? If the thread is that good, it will have 5000+ views on a large forum like this. At least with a reputation system, you can dole out negative rep. Till there's a "thumbs down" button next to the "thumbs up" one, like on YouTube, it's just going to create thousands of threads with 1 or 2 "likes," none of which are remarkable from the next. Give me a "like" if you like that I don't care about who "likes" my posts!

07-05-2011, 03:55 PM - 2 Likes	#28
magkelly Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,901	This whole "likes" thing makes me feel like I'm back battling cliques in high school. That's one of the main reasons I don't like Facebook and such actually. It's too much like an adolescent popularity contest and I never was too into competing to be prom queen....

07-05-2011, 08:47 PM - 1 Like	#29
jsherman999 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,237	Originally posted by uccemebug There's a system? I just show up and starting yacking. (Like in a movie theater.) Hmm, I've fallen from 37 to 12. well, now you're back up to 13 for that post .

07-05-2011, 09:27 PM	#30
ChrisPlatt Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Rockaway Beach NYC Posts: 7,692	I'm really not interested in popularity contests. Can I choose not to display "likes"? Chris

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