Suggestion UPDATED! Voice your thoughts- Threadbit Cosmetic Improvements?

Adam · 07-07-2009, 03:22 AM

Can't please everyone! Thanks for the input; I'll continue making tweaks.

Class A · 07-07-2009, 05:05 AM

Originally posted by falconeye

However, your change has gone in the opposite direction, for the following three reasons:

Falk, try the "Classic Skin". It still seems to work the way you prefer it (or Adam has changed the other skins back anyhow).

falconeye · 07-07-2009, 05:54 AM

Originally posted by Class A

Falk, try the "Classic Skin". It still seems to work the way you prefer it (or Adam has changed the other skins back anyhow).

Thanks a lot, as Classic skin still has the "first unread icons" being aligned. Adam changed that in the other skins already.

But I am not sure why Adam explicitely asks for opinions in this thread and when getting a detailed suggestion, replies with a "Can't please everyone!". This is odd.

Adam · 07-07-2009, 10:36 AM

You're odd

Just kidding! I will be working on the design again tonight and will hopefully come up with something.

Regarding the icon alignment- I like the idea of having a brightly colored button, and while it may seem nice to have the button to the right of the thread title, the loss of functionality mentioned above concerns me. We'll see what I can come up with later.

jct us101 · 07-07-2009, 12:24 PM

Well you really can't please everyone. I know this from having my own forums. There's always someone that won't like what you're doing, and they will think that they are important enough for you to not change it because of them.

Class A · 07-07-2009, 02:27 PM

Originally posted by jct us101

Well you really can't please everyone.

Sure, but Falk raised some very valid points. It is a hard rule in user interface design that you must not let basic controls jump around so that users have to chase them instead of knowing where they are independent of other content.

Thanks Adam, for agreeing that the "jumping buttons" are a concern.

falconeye · 07-07-2009, 02:35 PM

Originally posted by Adam

Regarding the icon alignment- I like the idea of having a brightly colored button, and while it may seem nice to have the button to the right of the thread title, the loss of functionality mentioned above concerns me.

You got my point and so I am happy. I know that it is impossible to implement everybodies' wishes.

Originally posted by jct us101

they will think that they are important enough for you
to not change it because of them.

I hope you didn't mean me. Because this wasn't my point. My point was that I invested an 8 line article making a precise suggestion for improvement after Adam asked for suggestions. And I only got a "Can't please everyone" response. Listening was all I expected.

Fortunately, Adam fixed it now.

EDIT:
Class A beat me. Consider my post void (but I am not man enough to delete it

)

Adam · 07-07-2009, 04:04 PM

I will shortly revert to having the icons aligned to the left of the title, though they will keep the new noticeable green & red coloring. I will also be scrapping the 'statistics' column idea for now, although the bold font face for usernames under the 'latest post' column will remain.

Adam · 07-09-2009, 02:37 PM

I'm taking down the demo skin for now, but saving the templates in case they come in handy later on. The above changes have now been made, and I think we're 'good' for now

Adam · 02-16-2010, 11:16 AM

Wow, someone voted and bumped the thread. This suggested change has long-since been rejected; I'm thus closing the thread.

View Poll Results: What should we do?
Let's switch to the new design	28	40.00%
Leave everything as it is now	34	48.57%
Let's leave the new design as a work-in-progress and build on it	8	11.43%
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07-07-2009, 05:54 AM	#63
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871	Originally posted by Class A Falk, try the "Classic Skin". It still seems to work the way you prefer it (or Adam has changed the other skins back anyhow). Thanks a lot, as Classic skin still has the "first unread icons" being aligned. Adam changed that in the other skins already. But I am not sure why Adam explicitely asks for opinions in this thread and when getting a detailed suggestion, replies with a "Can't please everyone!". This is odd. Last edited by falconeye; 07-07-2009 at 06:09 AM.

07-07-2009, 04:04 PM	#68
Adam Administrator Site Webmaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 51,595 Original Poster	I will shortly revert to having the icons aligned to the left of the title, though they will keep the new noticeable green & red coloring. I will also be scrapping the 'statistics' column idea for now, although the bold font face for usernames under the 'latest post' column will remain. Adam PentaxForums.com Webmaster (Site Usage Guide \| Site Help \| My Photography) PentaxForums.com server and development costs are user-supported. You can help cover these costs by donating or purchasing one of our Pentax eBooks. Or, buy your photo gear from our affiliates, Adorama, B&H Photo, KEH, or Topaz Labs, and get FREE Marketplace access - click here to see how! Trusted Pentax retailers:

07-09-2009, 02:37 PM	#69
Adam Administrator Site Webmaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 51,595 Original Poster	I'm taking down the demo skin for now, but saving the templates in case they come in handy later on. The above changes have now been made, and I think we're 'good' for now Adam PentaxForums.com Webmaster (Site Usage Guide \| Site Help \| My Photography) PentaxForums.com server and development costs are user-supported. You can help cover these costs by donating or purchasing one of our Pentax eBooks. Or, buy your photo gear from our affiliates, Adorama, B&H Photo, KEH, or Topaz Labs, and get FREE Marketplace access - click here to see how! Trusted Pentax retailers:

02-16-2010, 11:16 AM	#70
Adam Administrator Site Webmaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 51,595 Original Poster	Wow, someone voted and bumped the thread. This suggested change has long-since been rejected; I'm thus closing the thread. Adam PentaxForums.com Webmaster (Site Usage Guide \| Site Help \| My Photography) PentaxForums.com server and development costs are user-supported. You can help cover these costs by donating or purchasing one of our Pentax eBooks. Or, buy your photo gear from our affiliates, Adorama, B&H Photo, KEH, or Topaz Labs, and get FREE Marketplace access - click here to see how! Trusted Pentax retailers:

07-07-2009, 03:22 AM	#61
Adam Administrator Site Webmaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 51,595 Original Poster	Can't please everyone! Thanks for the input; I'll continue making tweaks.

07-07-2009, 05:05 AM	#62
Class A Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 11,251	Originally posted by falconeye However, your change has gone in the opposite direction, for the following three reasons: Falk, try the "Classic Skin". It still seems to work the way you prefer it (or Adam has changed the other skins back anyhow).

07-07-2009, 10:36 AM	#64
Adam Administrator Site Webmaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 51,595 Original Poster	You're odd Just kidding! I will be working on the design again tonight and will hopefully come up with something. Regarding the icon alignment- I like the idea of having a brightly colored button, and while it may seem nice to have the button to the right of the thread title, the loss of functionality mentioned above concerns me. We'll see what I can come up with later.

07-07-2009, 12:24 PM	#65
jct us101 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Posts: 3,793	Well you really can't please everyone. I know this from having my own forums. There's always someone that won't like what you're doing, and they will think that they are important enough for you to not change it because of them.

07-07-2009, 02:27 PM	#66
Class A Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 11,251	Originally posted by jct us101 Well you really can't please everyone. Sure, but Falk raised some very valid points. It is a hard rule in user interface design that you must not let basic controls jump around so that users have to chase them instead of knowing where they are independent of other content. Thanks Adam, for agreeing that the "jumping buttons" are a concern.

07-07-2009, 02:35 PM	#67
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871	Originally posted by Adam Regarding the icon alignment- I like the idea of having a brightly colored button, and while it may seem nice to have the button to the right of the thread title, the loss of functionality mentioned above concerns me. You got my point and so I am happy. I know that it is impossible to implement everybodies' wishes. Originally posted by jct us101 they will think that they are important enough for you to not change it because of them. I hope you didn't mean me. Because this wasn't my point. My point was that I invested an 8 line article making a precise suggestion for improvement after Adam asked for suggestions. And I only got a "Can't please everyone" response. Listening was all I expected. Fortunately, Adam fixed it now. EDIT: Class A beat me. Consider my post void (but I am not man enough to delete it )

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