Topaz De-noise Aperture

Tony3d · 10-17-2010, 09:06 AM

I downloaded Topaz Denoise, but I can't see the plugin in Aperture. How do you set this up?

dexmus · 10-17-2010, 09:17 AM

Place the plugin in Users -> "your user name" -> Library -> Application Support -> Aperture -> Plug-Ins

Tony3d · 10-17-2010, 09:28 AM

Originally posted by dexmus

Place the plugin in Users -> "your user name" -> Library -> Application Support -> Aperture -> Plug-Ins

There is no Aperture plugin folder their, but there is in the main library. Either way it dosen't show up. I'm running Aperture 3 on 10.5.8

tybeck · 10-17-2010, 11:13 AM

They don't make a plugin that will run directly in Lightroom or Aperture, only Photoshop. To used the Topaz suite in Aperture have to use another program called Fusion to call their plugins from those programs. Effectively you select it as an external editor like you would Photoshop. It's a free download and they have instructions on their website.

rustynail925 · 10-18-2010, 09:03 PM

are there any other program that works as good as a topaz denoise?

twitch · 10-18-2010, 09:07 PM

It seems not, it wins every single comparision review I've read, and it's the program that (I think) JohnBee uses with quite a bit of skill to get the incredible results on display in a couple of threads running at the moment.

Tony3d · 10-19-2010, 05:24 AM

How about NikdFine?

rustynail925 · 10-19-2010, 06:47 AM

I tried the topaz denoise but not even close the LR3 is better for me.. I dont know how did John Bee do it..

JohnBee · 10-19-2010, 06:52 AM

Originally posted by rustynail925

I tried the topaz denoise but not even close the LR3 is better for me.. I dont know how did John Bee do it..

The thing about Denoise, is where it is a totally different approach to NR.
And this often makes it hard for users to migrate to it from other systems.

PS. I never(almost never), remove chroma noise with Denoise(always ACR/LR) then Denoise luma afterward.

Tony3d · 10-19-2010, 10:30 AM

Originally posted by rustynail925

I tried the topaz denoise but not even close the LR3 is better for me.. I dont know how did John Bee do it..

Then you better have a look at this.

You Tube

twitch · 10-19-2010, 02:57 PM

Originally posted by Tony3d

How about NikdFine?

That's the one I have, but in every comparision I've seen Nik Dfine tends to come in last place (apart from Aperture native noise removal which really is completely hopeless).

rustynail925 · 10-19-2010, 03:47 PM

Originally posted by JohnBee

The thing about Denoise, is where it is a totally different approach to NR.
And this often makes it hard for users to migrate to it from other systems.

PS. I never(almost never), remove chroma noise with Denoise(always ACR/LR) then Denoise luma afterward.

Thanks for the tip. Im surprise that theres just a little chroma noise you remove in denoise. In LR3 i applied about 80 in luminance on a 25600 iso but still not as good as your 51200

rustynail925 · 10-19-2010, 04:04 PM

Originally posted by Tony3d

Then you better have a look at this.

Impressive!

JohnBee · 10-19-2010, 04:13 PM

Originally posted by rustynail925

Thanks for the tip. Im surprise that theres just a little chroma noise you remove in denoise. In LR3 i applied about 80 in luminance on a 25600 iso but still not as good as your 51200

Yes, and the main reason for this is where ACR and LR3 deal with chroma in RAW rather than at the composite level.
Which is why ACR/LR3 is so proficient at removing color noise with minimal affect on red and blue channels.
Though in some case, it may be necessary to preserve a color channel prior to NR.

rustynail925 · 10-19-2010, 05:02 PM

I didnt encounter a chroma in LR3 and Topaz. When you said chroma are you referring to the overal strength on noise reduction.. and is that the same as the luminance on LR3?

10-17-2010, 09:06 AM	#1
Tony3d Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Orlando Florida Posts: 487	Topaz De-noise Aperture I downloaded Topaz Denoise, but I can't see the plugin in Aperture. How do you set this up?

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10-17-2010, 09:17 AM	#2
dexmus Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: United States Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 392	Place the plugin in Users -> "your user name" -> Library -> Application Support -> Aperture -> Plug-Ins

10-17-2010, 09:28 AM	#3
Tony3d Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Orlando Florida Posts: 487 Original Poster	Originally posted by dexmus Place the plugin in Users -> "your user name" -> Library -> Application Support -> Aperture -> Plug-Ins There is no Aperture plugin folder their, but there is in the main library. Either way it dosen't show up. I'm running Aperture 3 on 10.5.8

10-17-2010, 11:13 AM	#4
tybeck Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 452	They don't make a plugin that will run directly in Lightroom or Aperture, only Photoshop. To used the Topaz suite in Aperture have to use another program called Fusion to call their plugins from those programs. Effectively you select it as an external editor like you would Photoshop. It's a free download and they have instructions on their website.

10-18-2010, 09:03 PM	#5
rustynail925 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Philippines Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,551	are there any other program that works as good as a topaz denoise?

10-18-2010, 09:07 PM	#6
twitch Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4,571	It seems not, it wins every single comparision review I've read, and it's the program that (I think) JohnBee uses with quite a bit of skill to get the incredible results on display in a couple of threads running at the moment.

10-19-2010, 05:24 AM	#7
Tony3d Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Orlando Florida Posts: 487 Original Poster	How about NikdFine?

10-19-2010, 06:47 AM	#8
rustynail925 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Philippines Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,551	I tried the topaz denoise but not even close the LR3 is better for me.. I dont know how did John Bee do it..

10-19-2010, 06:52 AM	#9
JohnBee Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Newrfoundland Photos: Albums Posts: 4,667	Originally posted by rustynail925 I tried the topaz denoise but not even close the LR3 is better for me.. I dont know how did John Bee do it.. The thing about Denoise, is where it is a totally different approach to NR. And this often makes it hard for users to migrate to it from other systems. PS. I never(almost never), remove chroma noise with Denoise(always ACR/LR) then Denoise luma afterward.

10-19-2010, 02:57 PM	#11
twitch Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4,571	Originally posted by Tony3d How about NikdFine? That's the one I have, but in every comparision I've seen Nik Dfine tends to come in last place (apart from Aperture native noise removal which really is completely hopeless).

10-19-2010, 03:47 PM	#12
rustynail925 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Philippines Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,551	Originally posted by JohnBee The thing about Denoise, is where it is a totally different approach to NR. And this often makes it hard for users to migrate to it from other systems. PS. I never(almost never), remove chroma noise with Denoise(always ACR/LR) then Denoise luma afterward. Thanks for the tip. Im surprise that theres just a little chroma noise you remove in denoise. In LR3 i applied about 80 in luminance on a 25600 iso but still not as good as your 51200

10-19-2010, 04:04 PM	#13
rustynail925 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Philippines Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,551	Originally posted by Tony3d Then you better have a look at this. Impressive!

10-19-2010, 04:13 PM	#14
JohnBee Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Newrfoundland Photos: Albums Posts: 4,667	Originally posted by rustynail925 Thanks for the tip. Im surprise that theres just a little chroma noise you remove in denoise. In LR3 i applied about 80 in luminance on a 25600 iso but still not as good as your 51200 Yes, and the main reason for this is where ACR and LR3 deal with chroma in RAW rather than at the composite level. Which is why ACR/LR3 is so proficient at removing color noise with minimal affect on red and blue channels. Though in some case, it may be necessary to preserve a color channel prior to NR.

10-19-2010, 05:02 PM	#15
rustynail925 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Philippines Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,551	I didnt encounter a chroma in LR3 and Topaz. When you said chroma are you referring to the overal strength on noise reduction.. and is that the same as the luminance on LR3?