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chefpete1 · 11-18-2010, 05:24 PM

Probably the coolest new feature on LR3 is the TETHERING capabilities.

Not just the smooth direct transitioning of photos into LR3, but the awesome ability to shoot live shots directly onto the computer screen while connected to laptop or desktop. This possibility gave me wood!

Problem is, the program doesn't seem to recognize Pentax cameras OR lenses. It blanked on both my Kx and *ist DL...Did not even give PENTAX as a choice for Manual Setup!

Eureka! I think I just discovered the photographer's equivalent of WATERBOARDING. This is TORTURE.

Then again, it could be me. If so, any ideas?

**eccs19** · 11-18-2010, 05:47 PM

My understanding is that Pentax doesn't tether. Not sure why, but they don't. I've never tried, so I can't say this 100% sure.

**Miguel** · 11-18-2010, 06:10 PM

I'd advise that you take a cold shower and skip the waterboarding exercise.
eccs19 is spot on: this camera don't do tethering. Last one that did was the K20D. It's one big bugaboo that is discouraging me from purchasing the K-5. It tells you who Pentax cameras are aimed at these days.

You also won't find many lens profiles either--too bad, it's a powerful feature I use all the time with my Canon gear.

M

rawr · 11-18-2010, 08:46 PM

The only in-built LR3 tethering support is for Nikon, Canon and some Leica, if I remember correctly (because Leica bundle LightRoom with some of their cameras).

Olympus, Hasselblad, Phase One, Sony, Samsung, Panasonic and Pentax miss out.

No-one should lapse immediately into 'Pentax is doomed' mode about this (as people tend to do on these forums). Pentax isn't the only brand that lacks LR3 tethering support.

**Miguel** · 11-18-2010, 09:34 PM

Lacking LR3 tethering support is one thing; lacking total tethering capability is far more of an issue, and that's the camp Pentax falls into. For the cost of a K-5, I would have expected this to be included.

BTW, you can tether some current Olympus and Sony DSLRs.

So perhaps a more accurate statement is that "Pentax is the only DSLR brand that lacks tethering support."

Originally posted by rawr

The only in-built LR3 tethering support is for Nikon, Canon and some Leica, if I remember correctly (because Leica bundle LightRoom with some of their cameras).

Olympus, Hasselblad, Phase One, Sony, Samsung, Panasonic and Pentax miss out.

No-one should lapse immediately into 'Pentax is doomed' mode about this (as people tend to do on these forums). Pentax isn't the only brand that lacks LR3 tethering support.

M

Wheatfield · 11-18-2010, 10:49 PM

Originally posted by Miguel

So perhaps a more accurate statement is that "Pentax is the only DSLR brand that lacks tethering support."

M

And if you look at their present marketing strategy (such as they have one) you might figure out why.

chefpete1 · 11-18-2010, 11:53 PM

Thanks guys for clarifying this issue.

What should I get rid of...the Kx or the LR3.2?

I'm just gonna get more PO'd every time I open it up.

rawr · 11-19-2010, 12:28 AM

I don't understand why you would want to ditch either the K-x or LR3.

LR 3.2 totally supports the K-x RAW files, and does an EXCELLENT job rendering K-x images. I have been very impressed with LR3.2. Using LR3.2 as an image manager and RAW convertor makes perfect sense.

If you want one-way tethering to work (ie take photo, have it turn up in LR3 automatically), rather than two-way tethering (view camera images plus control camera from LR3), it may be possible to have one-way tethering work via using an eye-fi card and LR's 'monitored folder' feature.

Either way, Pentax is said to be working on tethering support for the 645D. It may then trickle down to other models like the K-5 and perhaps even reach entry-level cameras like the K-x.

Originally posted by Miguel

lacking total tethering capability is far more of an issue, and that's the camp Pentax falls into

That has by no means been established by anyone. The capability may be there (ie good PTP support in the firmware) but the applications just haven't been written yet.

Originally posted by Miguel

BTW, you can tether some current Olympus and Sony DSLRs.

But not in LR3, which the discussion here is all about.

Wheatfield · 11-19-2010, 06:45 AM

Originally posted by chefpete1

Thanks guys for clarifying this issue.

What should I get rid of...the Kx or the LR3.2?

I'm just gonna get more PO'd every time I open it up.

If tethering via Lightroom is so important to you that you just can't live without it, then find a camera that is supported and switch systems.
It's a pretty easy solution to a pretty simple problem.

eddie1960 · 11-19-2010, 06:58 AM

i can understand why tethering wouldn't be an option with kx/kr (definitely not aimed at pros) but am baffled by the fact it isn't available on k7/k5/645D - particularly the 645D as every single competing camera offers the feature. I know the 645D is intended more as a field camera than a studio camera (as were the film versions) but somehow i think most pros buying it would want this feature at least occasionally

Wheatfield · 11-19-2010, 07:30 AM

Originally posted by eddie1960

i can understand why tethering wouldn't be an option with kx/kr (definitely not aimed at pros) but am baffled by the fact it isn't available on k7/k5/645D - particularly the 645D as every single competing camera offers the feature. I know the 645D is intended more as a field camera than a studio camera (as were the film versions) but somehow i think most pros buying it would want this feature at least occasionally

I believe the 645D supports tethering, though probably not via Lightroom.

eddie1960 · 11-19-2010, 07:39 AM

not on the original software apparently it is being added as a firmware update (i got my original info from luminous landscape review/shootout with phase one)

Wheatfield · 11-19-2010, 08:50 PM

Originally posted by eddie1960

not on the original software apparently it is being added as a firmware update (i got my original info from luminous landscape review/shootout with phase one)

I stand corrected.
I suspect that we will not see tethering on the K5, whether or not the 645 gets it in a firmware release.
I would also like to have it, but it's not a deal killer for me, as I see it of very limited use. Still lifes, especially product shots would benefit,
If we get to have it, I would prefer a wireless connection such as the one that connects my Blackberry to my wireless computer network.
Pentax is, I expect, still a generation away from any kind of tethering on small format.

amoringello · 11-19-2010, 09:19 PM

If you don't need the ability to control the camera from the laptop and only need to send files directly to the PC, then the Eye-Fi Pro X2 8GB card is the perfect answer. Works on Pentax K7 and K5 (although EyeFi says some cameras have had issues -- I have had none).

Take a photo, five seconds later its waiting on the laptop for the model/client to view.
No wires to trip over, no swapping cards.

I had been really pissed that K7 and K5 have no tethering, but since I got the EyeFi card and I realized that I have no need or desire to control the camera from the PC, the EyeFi is the way to go for my workflow.

**Clarkey** · 11-21-2010, 06:59 PM

Sell your DL and pick up a K10d.
The WIFI card will work, and I believe that you can feed the camera HDMI cable into a screen for *viewing only*. As I haven't got an HDMI capable screen, I can't verify this. But annoying, yes.

11-18-2010, 05:24 PM	#1
chefpete1 New Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Reading, Pennsylvania Photos: Gallery Posts: 22	LIGHTROOM 3 ISSUES...Help! Probably the coolest new feature on LR3 is the TETHERING capabilities. Not just the smooth direct transitioning of photos into LR3, but the awesome ability to shoot live shots directly onto the computer screen while connected to laptop or desktop. This possibility gave me wood! Problem is, the program doesn't seem to recognize Pentax cameras OR lenses. It blanked on both my Kx and *ist DL...Did not even give PENTAX as a choice for Manual Setup! Eureka! I think I just discovered the photographer's equivalent of WATERBOARDING. This is TORTURE. Then again, it could be me. If so, any ideas?

11-18-2010, 11:53 PM	#7
chefpete1 New Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Reading, Pennsylvania Photos: Gallery Posts: 22 Original Poster	Aggravating Thanks guys for clarifying this issue. What should I get rid of...the Kx or the LR3.2? I'm just gonna get more PO'd every time I open it up.

11-19-2010, 12:28 AM	#8
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	I don't understand why you would want to ditch either the K-x or LR3. LR 3.2 totally supports the K-x RAW files, and does an EXCELLENT job rendering K-x images. I have been very impressed with LR3.2. Using LR3.2 as an image manager and RAW convertor makes perfect sense. If you want one-way tethering to work (ie take photo, have it turn up in LR3 automatically), rather than two-way tethering (view camera images plus control camera from LR3), it may be possible to have one-way tethering work via using an eye-fi card and LR's 'monitored folder' feature. Either way, Pentax is said to be working on tethering support for the 645D. It may then trickle down to other models like the K-5 and perhaps even reach entry-level cameras like the K-x. Originally posted by Miguel lacking total tethering capability is far more of an issue, and that's the camp Pentax falls into That has by no means been established by anyone. The capability may be there (ie good PTP support in the firmware) but the applications just haven't been written yet. Originally posted by Miguel BTW, you can tether some current Olympus and Sony DSLRs. But not in LR3, which the discussion here is all about. Last edited by rawr; 11-19-2010 at 12:33 AM.

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11-18-2010, 05:47 PM	#2
eccs19 Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Lisle, Ontario Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,510	My understanding is that Pentax doesn't tether. Not sure why, but they don't. I've never tried, so I can't say this 100% sure.

11-18-2010, 06:10 PM	#3
Miguel Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Near Seattle Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,743	I'd advise that you take a cold shower and skip the waterboarding exercise. eccs19 is spot on: this camera don't do tethering. Last one that did was the K20D. It's one big bugaboo that is discouraging me from purchasing the K-5. It tells you who Pentax cameras are aimed at these days. You also won't find many lens profiles either--too bad, it's a powerful feature I use all the time with my Canon gear. M

11-18-2010, 08:46 PM	#4
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	The only in-built LR3 tethering support is for Nikon, Canon and some Leica, if I remember correctly (because Leica bundle LightRoom with some of their cameras). Olympus, Hasselblad, Phase One, Sony, Samsung, Panasonic and Pentax miss out. No-one should lapse immediately into 'Pentax is doomed' mode about this (as people tend to do on these forums). Pentax isn't the only brand that lacks LR3 tethering support.

11-18-2010, 09:34 PM	#5
Miguel Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Near Seattle Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,743	Lacking LR3 tethering support is one thing; lacking total tethering capability is far more of an issue, and that's the camp Pentax falls into. For the cost of a K-5, I would have expected this to be included. BTW, you can tether some current Olympus and Sony DSLRs. So perhaps a more accurate statement is that "Pentax is the only DSLR brand that lacks tethering support." Originally posted by rawr The only in-built LR3 tethering support is for Nikon, Canon and some Leica, if I remember correctly (because Leica bundle LightRoom with some of their cameras). Olympus, Hasselblad, Phase One, Sony, Samsung, Panasonic and Pentax miss out. No-one should lapse immediately into 'Pentax is doomed' mode about this (as people tend to do on these forums). Pentax isn't the only brand that lacks LR3 tethering support. M

11-18-2010, 10:49 PM	#6
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,991	Originally posted by Miguel So perhaps a more accurate statement is that "Pentax is the only DSLR brand that lacks tethering support." M And if you look at their present marketing strategy (such as they have one) you might figure out why.

11-19-2010, 06:45 AM	#9
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,991	Originally posted by chefpete1 Thanks guys for clarifying this issue. What should I get rid of...the Kx or the LR3.2? I'm just gonna get more PO'd every time I open it up. If tethering via Lightroom is so important to you that you just can't live without it, then find a camera that is supported and switch systems. It's a pretty easy solution to a pretty simple problem.

11-19-2010, 06:58 AM	#10
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,667	i can understand why tethering wouldn't be an option with kx/kr (definitely not aimed at pros) but am baffled by the fact it isn't available on k7/k5/645D - particularly the 645D as every single competing camera offers the feature. I know the 645D is intended more as a field camera than a studio camera (as were the film versions) but somehow i think most pros buying it would want this feature at least occasionally

11-19-2010, 07:30 AM	#11
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,991	Originally posted by eddie1960 i can understand why tethering wouldn't be an option with kx/kr (definitely not aimed at pros) but am baffled by the fact it isn't available on k7/k5/645D - particularly the 645D as every single competing camera offers the feature. I know the 645D is intended more as a field camera than a studio camera (as were the film versions) but somehow i think most pros buying it would want this feature at least occasionally I believe the 645D supports tethering, though probably not via Lightroom.

11-19-2010, 07:39 AM	#12
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,667	not on the original software apparently it is being added as a firmware update (i got my original info from luminous landscape review/shootout with phase one)

11-19-2010, 08:50 PM	#13
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,991	Originally posted by eddie1960 not on the original software apparently it is being added as a firmware update (i got my original info from luminous landscape review/shootout with phase one) I stand corrected. I suspect that we will not see tethering on the K5, whether or not the 645 gets it in a firmware release. I would also like to have it, but it's not a deal killer for me, as I see it of very limited use. Still lifes, especially product shots would benefit, If we get to have it, I would prefer a wireless connection such as the one that connects my Blackberry to my wireless computer network. Pentax is, I expect, still a generation away from any kind of tethering on small format.

11-19-2010, 09:19 PM	#14
amoringello Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Virginia, USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,562	If you don't need the ability to control the camera from the laptop and only need to send files directly to the PC, then the Eye-Fi Pro X2 8GB card is the perfect answer. Works on Pentax K7 and K5 (although EyeFi says some cameras have had issues -- I have had none). Take a photo, five seconds later its waiting on the laptop for the model/client to view. No wires to trip over, no swapping cards. I had been really pissed that K7 and K5 have no tethering, but since I got the EyeFi card and I realized that I have no need or desire to control the camera from the PC, the EyeFi is the way to go for my workflow.

11-21-2010, 06:59 PM	#15
Clarkey Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Brampton, ON, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,456	Sell your DL and pick up a K10d. The WIFI card will work, and I believe that you can feed the camera HDMI cable into a screen for viewing only. As I haven't got an HDMI capable screen, I can't verify this. But annoying, yes.

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