Forgot Password
Pentax Camera Forums Home
 

Reply
Show Printable Version Search this Thread
12-06-2012, 04:50 PM   #46
Site Supporter
Site Supporter
jpzk's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Québec
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 8,251
Original Poster
QuoteOriginally posted by Lowell Goudge Quote
Ok I've done it. A social group for birders

Birding group - PentaxForums.com
Ahhhh !!

You know: I wasn't too sure you'd go ahead with this and I am pleasantly surprised you did!

So now, we'll just have to jump in there and post "everything" about birding.

Off to that thread now ... !

JP

EDIT: this is what I am getting when I try going to post a reply in that forum: "Dear jpzk, you do not have permission to access this page or feature." ???

EDIT No. 2: oops !! I had forgotten to "join" the group ! My mistake ... all taken care of now.


Last edited by jpzk; 12-06-2012 at 04:59 PM.
12-06-2012, 11:33 PM   #47
Veteran Member
altopiet's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: The Gem of the Karoo, South Africa
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 2,307
Thanks Lowell, I'm sure it will be a hit!
12-07-2012, 05:35 AM   #48
Otis Memorial Pentaxian
photolady95's Avatar

Join Date: May 2009
Location: Cruising the forum watching his back
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 12,712
You who are posting many bird shots in the group forum, do realize no one can see them unless they are a member of the group, right? Plus, one of Lowell's intents for this group was to discuss our birding techniques, not just post a whole bunch of photos, eh!
12-07-2012, 05:41 AM   #49
Veteran Member
altopiet's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: The Gem of the Karoo, South Africa
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 2,307
QuoteOriginally posted by photolady Quote
You who are posting many bird shots in the group forum, do realize no one can see them unless they are a member of the group, right? Plus, one of Lowell's intents for this group was to discuss our birding techniques, not just post a whole bunch of photos, eh!
+1. I would like to learn how all those nice photos were taken, so it would be nice if a bit more info is given when a photo is posted

12-07-2012, 06:16 AM   #50
Veteran Member
stormtech's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: In the boonies (NW Penna)
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 5,744
QuoteOriginally posted by altopiet Quote
+1. I would like to learn how all those nice photos were taken, so it would be nice if a bit more info is given when a photo is posted
Yeah - I was hoping for a more technical discussion about the gear used, camera and flash settings, and the technique used to capture an example image. It just looks like a mirror to the 300mm lens club.

No much of a "social" groupie anyway.
12-07-2012, 07:11 AM   #51
Otis Memorial Pentaxian
photolady95's Avatar

Join Date: May 2009
Location: Cruising the forum watching his back
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 12,712
How much more social than the single ins are Stan? You've done those and it's social, sort of. But we can change this group so that it is more to the technical side, rather than just posting a bunch of photos. We can ask group members to please include their techiques when posting or start a thread that everyone could contribute their techiques.

The above is what i was hoping for also. I can post my photos in the open forums, if I need to brag. .
12-07-2012, 07:45 AM   #52
Veteran Member
stormtech's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: In the boonies (NW Penna)
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 5,744
QuoteOriginally posted by photolady Quote
How much more social than the single ins are Stan? You've done those and it's social, sort of. But we can change this group so that it is more to the technical side, rather than just posting a bunch of photos. We can ask group members to please include their techniques when posting or start a thread that everyone could contribute their techniques.

The above is what i was hoping for also. I can post my photos in the open forums, if I need to brag. .
Sorry - I didn't mean to come off as having a bad attitude - didn't get that second cup of coffee in me yet!

I find the birding aspect of photography the most challenging - I come to the 300mm lens club to learn. It seems I will never achieve the level of most posters - in fact I have not posted any photos in that thread for a long time since the bar has been raised so high with all the Sigma 500 pics and the great techniques that most of those posters use to get that close to the wildlife. I like to post my bird pics to more or less show myself any progress I have made along the way, and to learn from feedback from the masters of this craft.

So in a nutshell, I need see those technical aspects of a great image to help in my learning process.

Edit to add: I see that Lowell started a thread using flash for birding - now that is what I am talking about! This is one aspect of birding that is very important. Not just to see more pics taken with a flash, but what equipment, settings, and environment were involved.

12-07-2012, 07:49 AM   #53
Veteran Member
altopiet's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: The Gem of the Karoo, South Africa
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 2,307
QuoteOriginally posted by photolady Quote
We can ask group members to please include their techiques when posting or start a thread that everyone could contribute their techiques
....and also to ID the bird if they can, or ask the experts to add the bird ID, because it is what birding is all about as far as I understand.
12-07-2012, 07:54 AM   #54
Otis Memorial Pentaxian
photolady95's Avatar

Join Date: May 2009
Location: Cruising the forum watching his back
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 12,712
Right and that's what I thought this group would allow us to do. Learn from others. And talking about our techniques will help all of us. This group shouldn't just be post your bird shot, but post it along with your techinque or frustrations from not getting the shot you wanted. I promise to add my input to these discussions on how I got my shots. I will say this now, you don't always need a 500mm lens to get nice bird shots. I have a Samyang 100-500mm A lens, I seldom use for birding because simply, it's too long for where I shoot. I have some shots that were taken with a kit lens, the 18-55mm.
12-07-2012, 12:45 PM   #55
Site Supporter
Site Supporter
Lowell Goudge's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Toronto
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 17,868
QuoteOriginally posted by stormtech Quote
Yeah - I was hoping for a more technical discussion about the gear used, camera and flash settings, and the technique used to capture an example image. It just looks like a mirror to the 300mm lens club.

No much of a "social" groupie anyway.
Ive started by a thread on the use of flash when birding. If everyone starts a thread on a technical aspect rhen you will see it. That is the idea, to discuss HOW to get the shots as well as just posting them. I have where appropriate discussed the how.
12-07-2012, 12:49 PM   #56
Site Supporter
Site Supporter
Lowell Goudge's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Toronto
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 17,868
QuoteOriginally posted by photolady Quote
Right and that's what I thought this group would allow us to do. Learn from others. And talking about our techniques will help all of us. This group shouldn't just be post your bird shot, but post it along with your techinque or frustrations from not getting the shot you wanted. I promise to add my input to these discussions on how I got my shots. I will say this now, you don't always need a 500mm lens to get nice bird shots. I have a Samyang 100-500mm A lens, I seldom use for birding because simply, it's too long for where I shoot.I have some shots that were taken with a kit lens, the 18-55mm.
There was a thread once about the best lens for birding. One forum member posted a shot with a 10-17mm Fisheye. I posted a hawk eating a mouse shot with an FA28-105. The point is , the best lens is what's I the. Camera at the time.

Join the club mak a post and take part
12-08-2012, 09:56 PM   #57
Veteran Member
Frogfish's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Shanghai
Posts: 4,490
QuoteOriginally posted by stormtech Quote
.......It seems I will never achieve the level of most posters
No defeatist attitudes allowed in this thread Stan

I'm sure you can because you have three things going for you a) location (what I'd give to live next to a river and not have to drive 100kms to get anywhere real 'birdy') ! b) your determination to learn c) time and patience. Your lack of mobility can actually be a blessing in terms of the quality of the shots you can achieve because, as Pacer & Wildman said, once you have learnt, by observation and research, the bird's habits you will know where to position yourself to allow the birds to come to you.

I tend to cover a lot of ground when I go birding because I am interested in seeing as wide a variety of birds as I can in the (usually) one day a week I can dedicate to birding. However, unless I get really lucky, my best shots are always when I find a spot I like, and know is attractive to birds, and sit myself down (I don't have a hide but camo clothing, and keeping very still, works well) and wait. Pretty often that works well, small birds (warblers, tits, redstarts, eurasian robins) coming as close as 1 metre (inside the MFD of the 500 - but wonderful to watch them behaving naturally that close up).

So my advice to you is to get yourself kitted out in comfortable (warm !) camo clothing and settle down in likely spots (based on habitat for the target bird(s). I think it was Pacer who gave a great tip I read on another forum : sitting in front of a tree is better than hiding behind it (outline reamins the same since birds see 'contrast') and I practice this often.
12-08-2012, 10:34 PM   #58
Veteran Member
stormtech's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: In the boonies (NW Penna)
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 5,744
Thanks for the confidence building post Kevin - I really appreciate it.

I do get frustrated at times as I have shown here in this thread. I am having to learn to "live" differently in almost all aspects of my life because of a stupid disease that came on about a year ago. I had to give up all my hobbies and activities that I had, and turned back to photography as the only hobby that doesn't make me hurt. So a lot of this is that general frustration.

Photography is a great challenge, and one that I embrace with a good attitude normally. I just have to learn my limits and work around them. You are correct that I am so fortunate to live where I do - I have so many photographic opportunities within 100 yards of my house including the river, woods, and field.

Sorry for the negativity - not like me at all!

Thanks for the pep talk - very appreciated and received.
Reply

Bookmarks
  • Submit Thread to Facebook Facebook
  • Submit Thread to Twitter Twitter
  • Submit Thread to Digg Digg
Tags - Make this thread easier to find by adding keywords to it!
android, photography, photoshop
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Got an Android Phone? boriscleto General Talk 9 10-28-2011 08:32 AM
Suggestion Android Tablets Lazaruscomeout Site Suggestions and Help 9 09-08-2011 02:38 PM
Question Android/Apple support Aknot Site Suggestions and Help 3 04-06-2011 05:47 AM
New Android Toshiba Tablet NickRochon General Talk 5 02-12-2011 06:28 PM
For you Birders out there, cool looking gaget NaClH2O Pentax Camera and Field Accessories 13 04-22-2007 07:02 AM



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 10:13 AM. | See also: NikonForums.com, CanonForums.com part of our network of photo forums!
  • Red (Default)
  • Green
  • Gray
  • Dark
  • Dark Yellow
  • Dark Blue
  • Old Red
  • Old Green
  • Old Gray
  • Dial-Up Style
Hello! It's great to see you back on the forum! Have you considered joining the community?
register
Creating a FREE ACCOUNT takes under a minute, removes ads, and lets you post! [Dismiss]
Top