The Squirrel Mafia's RawTherapee thread. Now with 50% more excellence & win!

WileyB · 06-28-2018, 02:34 PM

Is there a thread anywhere (I guess maybe Post your Photos...) for omparing the basic results that come out from different PP editors without too much expert work in that software? Kind of like the LR vs AP thread:

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/32-digital-processing-software-printing/...-feedback.html

I've only ever used Darktable, but it seems like most PP softwares have their own somewhat unique 'Feel' to the images that most easily come out.

I wonder what RawTherapee's 'feel' is.

Last edited by WileyB; 06-28-2018 at 02:35 PM. Reason: didn't finish my first sentence :-P

Neuse River Sailor · 07-03-2018, 05:42 PM

Here's my workflow using Geequi, Raw Therapee and Gimp.

I chose the picture in Geequi and exported it to Raw Therapee. Here is the original shot:

I changed the pp3 to Deep Shadows, which is one that is included with Raw Therapee. I enabled film simulation and chose Fuji Velvia Generic 100 at 16. I changed white balance to 5178, exposure compensation to .83, exposure saturation to 22. From here I exported as .jpg and opened in Gimp. I cropped to my liking, made a small level adjustment, very light unsharp mask and was finished. Granted, there's a lot of noise, but considering the image was made with a K100D and a Quantaray macro zoom, I'm ok with it.

I am posting this not to show how a post-processing master might use Raw Therapee to make the perfect image, but to show anybody sitting on the fence on raw processing how easy it is. For the most part, the adjustments were made by trial and error. I used the section in RawPedia, "Basics", as my guide.

heckflosse · 07-04-2018, 01:28 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by Neuse River Sailor

Granted, there's a lot of noise

Current development version of RawTherapee has some new tools which address the noise in flat areas.

For reference

**Mikesul** · 07-04-2018, 08:55 AM

I need to bite the bullet and spend more time with RawTherapee. The developers seem to be on fire.

**RobA_Oz** · 07-04-2018, 01:55 PM

Originally posted by Mikesul

I need to bite the bullet and spend more time with RawTherapee. The developers seem to be on fire.

So much software; so little time...

**Mikesul** · 07-04-2018, 07:44 PM

Originally posted by RobA_Oz

So much software; so little time...

Well said.

The Squirrel Mafia · 07-05-2018, 08:30 AM - **2 Likes**

UPDATE!

I'm uploading a new batch of experimental PP3 files. I've been playing with settings to get sharper images without getting so many artifacts. Good stuff!

You'll need to have the latest version of RawTherapee. See this post on how to get the latest version. Try them out!

Last edited by The Squirrel Mafia; 08-14-2018 at 02:16 PM.

**Mikesul** · 07-05-2018, 08:39 AM

Originally posted by The Squirrel Mafia

UPDATE!

I'm uploading a new batch of experimental PP3 files. I've been playing with settings to get sharper images without getting so many artifacts. Good stuff!

You'll need to have the latest version of RawTherapee. See this post on how to get the latest version. Try them out!

Thanks for what seems your tireless effort in behalf of quality!

The Squirrel Mafia · 07-05-2018, 09:02 AM - **1 Like**

^ You're welcome. My main reason for doing this is so that I can shoot worry free up to ISO 12800 with my K-50 bodies. Obviously I try to shoot the lowest ISO possible, but I know that I can still get a usable image at ISO 12800 if I end up shooting that high. Since this is my main RAW developing program, I keep playing with it whenever I have a chance. I also use DxO on occasion, but RawTherapee is pretty much the one that I use almost all the time.

But yeah! The developers have been going non-stop on this project. Their tireless efforts allow us to have this really good RAW developing program for free!

DSLRnovice · 08-09-2018, 07:17 AM

When I use RT I notice the default color is different than my camera and the settings like Natural, and Landscape in DCU. Is there a way to load a photo with the same settings used in the camera like in DCU5?

Dan

The Squirrel Mafia · 08-09-2018, 09:24 AM - **1 Like**

^ Not really. Pentax DCU is the only software that can do that.

The closest thing would be creating a dcp file.

The next closest thing would be changing the tone curve type to standard. RawTherapee currently defaults to film-like. No way to automatically set that yet.

The Squirrel Mafia · 08-14-2018, 01:56 PM

UPDATE!

I'm uploading a new batch of experimental PP3 files. Been toying around with some newer settings. I'm just uploading a basic set without a Pixel Shift set. You'd just have to go the the RAW tab & set the demosaicing to Pixel Shift.

You'll need to have the latest version of RawTherapee. See this post on how to get the latest version. Try them out!

**Mikesul** · 08-14-2018, 06:57 PM

Boy, Squirrel Mafia you sure are doing outstanding work to make this system usable. Much appreciated.

The Squirrel Mafia · 08-15-2018, 10:44 AM - **1 Like**

^ Thanks. My next batch of PP3 files will have 3 folders. One for non-pixel shift, one for pixel shift, & one for optional PP3 files for more processing options. I should have them by the time the next stable version of RawTherapee is released.

The Squirrel Mafia · 08-27-2018, 12:03 PM

UPDATE!

I've created a generic 64bit build for a Windows 7/8/10 machine. Some recent experimental profiles are already installed.

If you want to try it out, you can download the zip HERE. Just extract it & install it. Once installed, it'll be ready for use.

08-09-2018, 07:17 AM	#505
DSLRnovice Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 192	Pentax and DCU profiles When I use RT I notice the default color is different than my camera and the settings like Natural, and Landscape in DCU. Is there a way to load a photo with the same settings used in the camera like in DCU5? Dan

08-14-2018, 01:56 PM	#507
The Squirrel Mafia Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 3,054 Original Poster	UPDATE! I'm uploading a new batch of experimental PP3 files. Been toying around with some newer settings. I'm just uploading a basic set without a Pixel Shift set. You'd just have to go the the RAW tab & set the demosaicing to Pixel Shift. You'll need to have the latest version of RawTherapee. See this post on how to get the latest version. Try them out! Last edited by The Squirrel Mafia; 12-17-2018 at 01:56 PM.

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06-28-2018, 02:34 PM	#496
WileyB Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: New Mexico Photos: Albums Posts: 441	Is there a thread anywhere (I guess maybe Post your Photos...) for omparing the basic results that come out from different PP editors without too much expert work in that software? Kind of like the LR vs AP thread: https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/32-digital-processing-software-printing/...-feedback.html I've only ever used Darktable, but it seems like most PP softwares have their own somewhat unique 'Feel' to the images that most easily come out. I wonder what RawTherapee's 'feel' is. Last edited by WileyB; 06-28-2018 at 02:35 PM. Reason: didn't finish my first sentence :-P

07-03-2018, 05:42 PM	#497
Neuse River Sailor Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: North Carolina Photos: Gallery Posts: 531	Here's my workflow using Geequi, Raw Therapee and Gimp. I chose the picture in Geequi and exported it to Raw Therapee. Here is the original shot: I changed the pp3 to Deep Shadows, which is one that is included with Raw Therapee. I enabled film simulation and chose Fuji Velvia Generic 100 at 16. I changed white balance to 5178, exposure compensation to .83, exposure saturation to 22. From here I exported as .jpg and opened in Gimp. I cropped to my liking, made a small level adjustment, very light unsharp mask and was finished. Granted, there's a lot of noise, but considering the image was made with a K100D and a Quantaray macro zoom, I'm ok with it. I am posting this not to show how a post-processing master might use Raw Therapee to make the perfect image, but to show anybody sitting on the fence on raw processing how easy it is. For the most part, the adjustments were made by trial and error. I used the section in RawPedia, "Basics", as my guide.

07-04-2018, 01:28 AM - 2 Likes	#498
heckflosse Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 171	Originally posted by Neuse River Sailor Granted, there's a lot of noise Current development version of RawTherapee has some new tools which address the noise in flat areas. For reference

07-04-2018, 08:55 AM	#499
Mikesul Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7,594	I need to bite the bullet and spend more time with RawTherapee. The developers seem to be on fire.

07-04-2018, 01:55 PM	#500
RobA_Oz Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tasmania, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,197	Originally posted by Mikesul I need to bite the bullet and spend more time with RawTherapee. The developers seem to be on fire. So much software; so little time...

07-04-2018, 07:44 PM	#501
Mikesul Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7,594	Originally posted by RobA_Oz So much software; so little time... Well said.

07-05-2018, 08:30 AM - 2 Likes	#502
The Squirrel Mafia Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 3,054 Original Poster	UPDATE! I'm uploading a new batch of experimental PP3 files. I've been playing with settings to get sharper images without getting so many artifacts. Good stuff! You'll need to have the latest version of RawTherapee. See this post on how to get the latest version. Try them out! Last edited by The Squirrel Mafia; 08-14-2018 at 02:16 PM.

07-05-2018, 08:39 AM	#503
Mikesul Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7,594	Originally posted by The Squirrel Mafia UPDATE! I'm uploading a new batch of experimental PP3 files. I've been playing with settings to get sharper images without getting so many artifacts. Good stuff! You'll need to have the latest version of RawTherapee. See this post on how to get the latest version. Try them out! Thanks for what seems your tireless effort in behalf of quality!

07-05-2018, 09:02 AM - 1 Like	#504
The Squirrel Mafia Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 3,054 Original Poster	^ You're welcome. My main reason for doing this is so that I can shoot worry free up to ISO 12800 with my K-50 bodies. Obviously I try to shoot the lowest ISO possible, but I know that I can still get a usable image at ISO 12800 if I end up shooting that high. Since this is my main RAW developing program, I keep playing with it whenever I have a chance. I also use DxO on occasion, but RawTherapee is pretty much the one that I use almost all the time. But yeah! The developers have been going non-stop on this project. Their tireless efforts allow us to have this really good RAW developing program for free!

08-09-2018, 09:24 AM - 1 Like	#506
The Squirrel Mafia Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 3,054 Original Poster	^ Not really. Pentax DCU is the only software that can do that. The closest thing would be creating a dcp file. The next closest thing would be changing the tone curve type to standard. RawTherapee currently defaults to film-like. No way to automatically set that yet.

08-14-2018, 06:57 PM	#508
Mikesul Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7,594	Boy, Squirrel Mafia you sure are doing outstanding work to make this system usable. Much appreciated.

08-15-2018, 10:44 AM - 1 Like	#509
The Squirrel Mafia Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 3,054 Original Poster	^ Thanks. My next batch of PP3 files will have 3 folders. One for non-pixel shift, one for pixel shift, & one for optional PP3 files for more processing options. I should have them by the time the next stable version of RawTherapee is released.

08-27-2018, 12:03 PM	#510
The Squirrel Mafia Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 3,054 Original Poster	UPDATE! I've created a generic 64bit build for a Windows 7/8/10 machine. Some recent experimental profiles are already installed. If you want to try it out, you can download the zip HERE. Just extract it & install it. Once installed, it'll be ready for use.