DXO Labs into receivership?

**Tas** · 04-22-2018, 05:17 PM

I've seen a few forum members talking about using DXO Labs software, you might be interested in this"

Rumors: DxO Labs in bankruptcy or receiverships | Photo Rumors The info came via Canon Rumors and contains the following statement:

"It looks like DxO Labs has gone into receivership for the purpose of reorganizing the company. DxO Labs deals with the software side of the DxO brand, as DxOMark deals with the testing of cameras and lenses. DxO Labs would likely be the ones dealing with the Nik Software plugins acquired from Google last year."

I'm guessing it will continue but could be subject to delays in updates etc for a wee while (Note: this is all conjecture on my behalf).

Tas

**UncleVanya** · 04-22-2018, 05:26 PM

I am a dxo user and I'd be annoyed if this derails them.

**Larrymc** · 04-22-2018, 06:09 PM

Originally posted by Tas

I've seen a few forum members talking about using DXO Labs software, you might be interested in this"

Rumors: DxO Labs in bankruptcy or receiverships | Photo Rumors The info came via Canon Rumors and contains the following statement:

"It looks like DxO Labs has gone into receivership for the purpose of reorganizing the company. DxO Labs deals with the software side of the DxO brand, as DxOMark deals with the testing of cameras and lenses. DxO Labs would likely be the ones dealing with the Nik Software plugins acquired from Google last year."

I'm guessing it will continue but could be subject to delays in updates etc for a wee while (Note: this is all conjecture on my behalf).

Tas

Hmmmm.......Lets see now. A rumor about DXO Labs from a rumor site. Now this is credible isn't it? I too use DXO PhotoLab software, lets hope its just that a RUMOR.

Sounds like a darn good way to get photographers to shy away from the best noise reduction software on the planet. Could there be an ulterior motive for this RUMOR?

Larry

SSGGeezer · 04-22-2018, 06:36 PM

Originally posted by UncleVanya

I am a dxo user and I'd be annoyed if this derails them.

Do you use the "Pro version" with all the plug ins that runs about 200, or 150 USD on sale? I use the basic and it does a pretty good job but they aren't going to get me to drop that much without hearing that it is worth it here, and especially if they may go into receivership.

bobmaxja · 04-22-2018, 07:16 PM

It's real
Dxo Labs under reorganization due to financial problems - Personal View Talks

**Rondec** · 04-23-2018, 03:12 AM - **1 Like**

Making software is a tough thing to do. Yes, 200 dollars is expensive for a software package that edits photos, but it is also expensive to employ a bunch of software engineers to produce such a package that includes the new cameras and lenses on the market. And most people make do with older software for as long as they can.

Clearly this is why Adobe has moved to the subscription model -- guaranteed cash flow regardless of what they release in a given year.

**monochrome** · 04-23-2018, 03:31 AM - **5 Likes**

Inability to service debt (pay interest on a loan) Is the usual reason reorganizations happen. It is the debt (and the payments) that gets ‘reorganized’, Whatever DxO paid Google for the free-use Nik Collection, if they borrowed the money then debt service might be the cause. Perhaps certain manufacturers had been making marketing payments to DxO for camera ratings and in the recent dSLR volume contraction ceased making those payments - instant cash flow imbalance. Something like that always seems to happen in these deals.

Now think SmugMug buying Flickr - a free service - from Verizon. What could go wrong?

Last edited by monochrome; 04-23-2018 at 03:36 AM.

**MJSfoto1956** · 04-23-2018, 05:29 AM

Not surprising given they shut down their online store a few months ago and now redirect you to their partners for fulfillment. As for their forum, it is clear nobody from the company actively manages it. I love my DxO One. I love DxO PhotoLab software. I hope they can get it together.

**Digitalis** · 04-23-2018, 05:48 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by monochrome

Now think SmugMug buying Flickr - a free service - from Verizon. What could go wrong?

I'd have to say: A lot.

**UncleVanya** · 04-23-2018, 06:00 AM

Originally posted by SSGGeezer

Do you use the "Pro version" with all the plug ins that runs about 200, or 150 USD on sale? I use the basic and it does a pretty good job but they aren't going to get me to drop that much without hearing that it is worth it here, and especially if they may go into receivership.

I have all of the pro software modules. I really like the software, but I may have to seek alternatives.

The cost has always been interesting, they tended to have severe discounts yearly. This is how I initially provided in and upgrades have been discounted as well.

---------- Post added 04-23-18 at 09:03 AM ----------

Originally posted by MJSfoto1956

Not surprising given they shut down their online store a few months ago and now redirect you to their partners for fulfillment. As for their forum, it is clear nobody from the company actively manages it. I love my DxO One. I love DxO PhotoLab software. I hope they can get it together.

That's worrisome, I haven't logged on in a while, I used the online store for my purchases.

mohb · 04-23-2018, 06:04 AM

Does this mean I should stash a copy of Nik somewhere just in case?

Buying 'free' software in the hope of upgrading it then selling enough copies to make a profit seems a shaky business proposition

**Digitalis** · 04-23-2018, 06:11 AM

Originally posted by mohb

Buying 'free' software in the hope of upgrading it then selling enough copies to make a profit seems a shaky business proposition

Last ditch options are often like that.

Nuij · 04-23-2018, 07:00 AM

I am really happy with their software. Hope they will support the K1mk11 before the plug is pulled. Makes me hesitant to upgrade my K1

bladerunner6 · 04-23-2018, 07:44 AM

Originally posted by Nuij

I am really happy with their software. Hope they will support the K1mk11 before the plug is pulled. Makes me hesitant to upgrade my K1

Where do you see anything that implies the “plug is being pulled”?

Nuij · 04-23-2018, 11:35 AM

Originally posted by bladerunner6

Where do you see anything that implies the “plug is being pulled”?

Murphy's law: "If things can go wrong they will go wrong"

04-22-2018, 05:17 PM	#1
Tas Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Brisbane, QLD Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,202	DXO Labs into receivership? I've seen a few forum members talking about using DXO Labs software, you might be interested in this" Rumors: DxO Labs in bankruptcy or receiverships \| Photo Rumors The info came via Canon Rumors and contains the following statement: "It looks like DxO Labs has gone into receivership for the purpose of reorganizing the company. DxO Labs deals with the software side of the DxO brand, as DxOMark deals with the testing of cameras and lenses. DxO Labs would likely be the ones dealing with the Nik Software plugins acquired from Google last year." I'm guessing it will continue but could be subject to delays in updates etc for a wee while (Note: this is all conjecture on my behalf). Tas

04-22-2018, 06:09 PM	#3
Larrymc Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississippi, USA Posts: 5,252	Originally posted by Tas I've seen a few forum members talking about using DXO Labs software, you might be interested in this" Rumors: DxO Labs in bankruptcy or receiverships \| Photo Rumors The info came via Canon Rumors and contains the following statement: "It looks like DxO Labs has gone into receivership for the purpose of reorganizing the company. DxO Labs deals with the software side of the DxO brand, as DxOMark deals with the testing of cameras and lenses. DxO Labs would likely be the ones dealing with the Nik Software plugins acquired from Google last year." I'm guessing it will continue but could be subject to delays in updates etc for a wee while (Note: this is all conjecture on my behalf). Tas Hmmmm.......Lets see now. A rumor about DXO Labs from a rumor site. Now this is credible isn't it? I too use DXO PhotoLab software, lets hope its just that a RUMOR. Sounds like a darn good way to get photographers to shy away from the best noise reduction software on the planet. Could there be an ulterior motive for this RUMOR? Larry Last edited by Larrymc; 04-22-2018 at 06:17 PM. Reason: additional comment

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04-22-2018, 05:26 PM	#2
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,459	I am a dxo user and I'd be annoyed if this derails them.

04-22-2018, 06:36 PM	#4
SSGGeezer Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Indiana, U.S. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,845	Originally posted by UncleVanya I am a dxo user and I'd be annoyed if this derails them. Do you use the "Pro version" with all the plug ins that runs about 200, or 150 USD on sale? I use the basic and it does a pretty good job but they aren't going to get me to drop that much without hearing that it is worth it here, and especially if they may go into receivership.

04-22-2018, 07:16 PM	#5
bobmaxja Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Laval, Quebec Canada Posts: 2,171	It's real Dxo Labs under reorganization due to financial problems - Personal View Talks

04-23-2018, 03:12 AM - 1 Like	#6
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,663	Making software is a tough thing to do. Yes, 200 dollars is expensive for a software package that edits photos, but it is also expensive to employ a bunch of software engineers to produce such a package that includes the new cameras and lenses on the market. And most people make do with older software for as long as they can. Clearly this is why Adobe has moved to the subscription model -- guaranteed cash flow regardless of what they release in a given year.

04-23-2018, 03:31 AM - 5 Likes	#7
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Inability to service debt (pay interest on a loan) Is the usual reason reorganizations happen. It is the debt (and the payments) that gets ‘reorganized’, Whatever DxO paid Google for the free-use Nik Collection, if they borrowed the money then debt service might be the cause. Perhaps certain manufacturers had been making marketing payments to DxO for camera ratings and in the recent dSLR volume contraction ceased making those payments - instant cash flow imbalance. Something like that always seems to happen in these deals. Now think SmugMug buying Flickr - a free service - from Verizon. What could go wrong? Last edited by monochrome; 04-23-2018 at 03:36 AM.

04-23-2018, 05:29 AM	#8
MJSfoto1956 Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Boston Posts: 1,305	Not surprising given they shut down their online store a few months ago and now redirect you to their partners for fulfillment. As for their forum, it is clear nobody from the company actively manages it. I love my DxO One. I love DxO PhotoLab software. I hope they can get it together.

04-23-2018, 05:48 AM - 1 Like	#9
Digitalis Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,694	Originally posted by monochrome Now think SmugMug buying Flickr - a free service - from Verizon. What could go wrong? I'd have to say: A lot.

04-23-2018, 06:00 AM	#10
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,459	Originally posted by SSGGeezer Do you use the "Pro version" with all the plug ins that runs about 200, or 150 USD on sale? I use the basic and it does a pretty good job but they aren't going to get me to drop that much without hearing that it is worth it here, and especially if they may go into receivership. I have all of the pro software modules. I really like the software, but I may have to seek alternatives. The cost has always been interesting, they tended to have severe discounts yearly. This is how I initially provided in and upgrades have been discounted as well. ---------- Post added 04-23-18 at 09:03 AM ---------- Originally posted by MJSfoto1956 Not surprising given they shut down their online store a few months ago and now redirect you to their partners for fulfillment. As for their forum, it is clear nobody from the company actively manages it. I love my DxO One. I love DxO PhotoLab software. I hope they can get it together. That's worrisome, I haven't logged on in a while, I used the online store for my purchases.

04-23-2018, 06:04 AM	#11
mohb Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Photos: Albums Posts: 1,912	Does this mean I should stash a copy of Nik somewhere just in case? Buying 'free' software in the hope of upgrading it then selling enough copies to make a profit seems a shaky business proposition

04-23-2018, 06:11 AM	#12
Digitalis Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,694	Originally posted by mohb Buying 'free' software in the hope of upgrading it then selling enough copies to make a profit seems a shaky business proposition Last ditch options are often like that.

04-23-2018, 07:00 AM	#13
Nuij Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Ospeldijk Posts: 60	I am really happy with their software. Hope they will support the K1mk11 before the plug is pulled. Makes me hesitant to upgrade my K1

04-23-2018, 07:44 AM	#14
bladerunner6 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Photos: Albums Posts: 2,080	Originally posted by Nuij I am really happy with their software. Hope they will support the K1mk11 before the plug is pulled. Makes me hesitant to upgrade my K1 Where do you see anything that implies the “plug is being pulled”?

04-23-2018, 11:35 AM	#15
Nuij Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Ospeldijk Posts: 60	Originally posted by bladerunner6 Where do you see anything that implies the “plug is being pulled”? Murphy's law: "If things can go wrong they will go wrong"