LR>Plugins>LR>PS>Plugins>LR>Save as a Preset?

**BruceBanner** · 04-23-2018, 12:18 AM

Ok, apologies for the confusing subject matter, please allow me to try and explain the question;

I open the RAW file in LR, I apply some basic adjustments before jumping to a LR plugin such as Topaz Clarity. I then make some clarity adjustments (no masking or brush strokes, just basic preset stuff) and then return with that saved to LR. I then further edit the same file in PS (so it's another Edit In>PS launch from LR). I may then use another Topaz plugin from PS and do a similar edit. I then save the edit from PS and can see the final thing in LR.

At this time the RAW file has been edited in two plugins launched from either LR or PS and saved and I'm back in LR with the applied effects, all is good. Now LR can clearly display all the Topaz effects etc applied properly, it's not basically doing anything that LR can't do, it's just a means of getting to that look via a different platform. So I'm wondering if after all these changes are applied and I'm back in LR (basically about to do an Export to Jpg), can I then apply that 'look'/finished file to other future RAW files without needing to revisit these plugins all the time i.e. if I save that 'preset' in LR and then fire up a new RAW file and simply click that saved preset, will it give me the same overall effect as if the file had visited topaz, had the changes applied etc.

Why am I asking this question? I'm just going to try it lol

Peace!

BB

BigMackCam · 04-23-2018, 02:00 AM

Those presets can only save Lightroom adjustments - not edits performed outside Lightroom in plug-ins and other applications.

**BruceBanner** · 04-23-2018, 06:14 AM

Originally posted by BigMackCam

Those presets can only save Lightroom adjustments - not edits performed outside Lightroom in plug-ins and other applications.

Yes it appeared to me that this was occurring on my preset edit saves. Shame... I really like the Topaz plugins but wanted something to get me to a certain look/feel that they have quicker than having to take each image through that process.

**Oakland Rob** · 04-23-2018, 11:59 AM - **1 Like**

It might be even worse than you think. I've tried to match up parameters in Lr with parameters from other editors, and only the simplest stuff works. And even then it might matter which ORDER you do them in. Aargh. If I use a bunch of adjustment layers in Ps it seems like an easier way to deal with this than hopping back to Lr though. At least each session is sort of discrete and saved in each layer.

Wouldn't it be cool to have a "reverse engineer" plugin, which when applied to the finished product and raw it could suss out all the parameters that needed changing to achieve that result?

04-23-2018, 12:18 AM	#1
BruceBanner Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Blue Mountains, NSW, Australia Posts: 1,632	LR>Plugins>LR>PS>Plugins>LR>Save as a Preset? Ok, apologies for the confusing subject matter, please allow me to try and explain the question; I open the RAW file in LR, I apply some basic adjustments before jumping to a LR plugin such as Topaz Clarity. I then make some clarity adjustments (no masking or brush strokes, just basic preset stuff) and then return with that saved to LR. I then further edit the same file in PS (so it's another Edit In>PS launch from LR). I may then use another Topaz plugin from PS and do a similar edit. I then save the edit from PS and can see the final thing in LR. At this time the RAW file has been edited in two plugins launched from either LR or PS and saved and I'm back in LR with the applied effects, all is good. Now LR can clearly display all the Topaz effects etc applied properly, it's not basically doing anything that LR can't do, it's just a means of getting to that look via a different platform. So I'm wondering if after all these changes are applied and I'm back in LR (basically about to do an Export to Jpg), can I then apply that 'look'/finished file to other future RAW files without needing to revisit these plugins all the time i.e. if I save that 'preset' in LR and then fire up a new RAW file and simply click that saved preset, will it give me the same overall effect as if the file had visited topaz, had the changes applied etc. Why am I asking this question? I'm just going to try it lol Peace! BB

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04-23-2018, 02:00 AM	#2
BigMackCam Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Durham, England Posts: 8,454	Those presets can only save Lightroom adjustments - not edits performed outside Lightroom in plug-ins and other applications.

04-23-2018, 06:14 AM	#3
BruceBanner Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Blue Mountains, NSW, Australia Posts: 1,632 Original Poster	Originally posted by BigMackCam Those presets can only save Lightroom adjustments - not edits performed outside Lightroom in plug-ins and other applications. Yes it appeared to me that this was occurring on my preset edit saves. Shame... I really like the Topaz plugins but wanted something to get me to a certain look/feel that they have quicker than having to take each image through that process.

04-23-2018, 11:59 AM - 1 Like	#4
Oakland Rob Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2015 Photos: Albums Posts: 637	It might be even worse than you think. I've tried to match up parameters in Lr with parameters from other editors, and only the simplest stuff works. And even then it might matter which ORDER you do them in. Aargh. If I use a bunch of adjustment layers in Ps it seems like an easier way to deal with this than hopping back to Lr though. At least each session is sort of discrete and saved in each layer. Wouldn't it be cool to have a "reverse engineer" plugin, which when applied to the finished product and raw it could suss out all the parameters that needed changing to achieve that result?