New Capture One 11.2 still no K-1ii

**Mikesul** · 07-05-2018, 07:47 AM

It appears they still have not added support for the mark 2.

2rb1 · 07-06-2018, 05:46 AM

Given they usually ignore all but the basic features (say pixel shift, tethering), it should be little work to accept a new flavour of the same camera.

This is one good reason never to choose the subscription model - while it is irritating to wait for your camera model to become available, it is even worse if you have also paid for it...

PDL · 07-06-2018, 09:39 PM

Originally posted by 2rb1

Given they usually ignore all but the basic features (say pixel shift, tethering), it should be little work to accept a new flavour of the same camera.

This is one good reason never to choose the subscription model - while it is irritating to wait for your camera model to become available, it is even worse if you have also paid for it...

I work with CO and they do not support Pixel Shift for any brand (Olympus, Sony, Pentax etc.) and they have never supported tethering on Pentax camera bodies. As for the K-1II, just use DNG and you should be OK.

**Mikesul** · 07-07-2018, 08:32 AM

Originally posted by PDL

I work with CO and they do not support Pixel Shift for any brand (Olympus, Sony, Pentax etc.) and they have never supported tethering on Pentax camera bodies. As for the K-1II, just use DNG and you should be OK.

Nope. DNG is all i use and it does not recognize the files. See jpgs of course but not DNGs from the K-1ii.

Retraction!!! I just downloaded and installed 11.2 and i opens the DNGs. Sorry. They do not list the K-1ii so I assumed there was not point in getting the new release. Now I have and it loads the dngs. I assume it will process them normally.

Last edited by Mikesul; 07-07-2018 at 08:51 AM.

Winder · 07-07-2018, 09:56 AM

The main advantages of the MK2 have to do with JPEG processing with the accelerator chip. I doubt a lot of K-1.2 users are using C1.

**Mikesul** · 07-07-2018, 10:49 AM

Originally posted by Winder

The main advantages of the MK2 have to do with JPEG processing with the accelerator chip. I doubt a lot of K-1.2 users are using C1.

Well, I am , now. But you are right about the jpg quality of the K-1ii. But I also like the slightly betteer AF and the handheld PS, although the latter may be something of a placebo. Anyway, I am glad it is now supported, wish they would add pixelshft processing.

**boriscleto** · 07-07-2018, 10:57 AM

Originally posted by Mikesul

Well, I am , now. But you are right about the jpg quality of the K-1ii. But I also like the slightly betteer AF and the handheld PS, although the latter may be something of a placebo. Anyway, I am glad it is now supported, wish they would add pixelshft processing.

I think their reply would be "You're lucky we add any support for our competitors at all"...

**Mikesul** · 07-07-2018, 10:58 AM

Originally posted by boriscleto

I think their reply would be "You're lucky we add any support for our competitors at all"...

Isn't the software division separate from the camera division now?

**boriscleto** · 07-07-2018, 11:05 AM

Originally posted by Mikesul

Isn't the software division separate from the camera division now?

They seem to present themselves as an all-in-one digital medium format and imaging software company...

**Mikesul** · 07-07-2018, 11:08 AM

Originally posted by boriscleto

They seem to present themselves as an all-in-one digital medium format and imaging software company...

Yes, I have seen those ads but I recall hearing that they had separated hardware and software companies. Maybe not. It is great software.

2rb1 · 07-09-2018, 03:10 AM

Originally posted by PDL

I work with CO and they do not support Pixel Shift for any brand (Olympus, Sony, Pentax etc.) and they have never supported tethering on Pentax camera bodies. As for the K-1II, just use DNG and you should be OK.

OK - thanks.

Since CO could preview the PEF file; but refused to import it, I assumed it was deliberately blocked. I will try DNG. Will this use the K1 profile or a generic one?

PDL · 07-09-2018, 10:38 AM

I do not have a K-1 so I can not tell you. On my K-3II is uses the K-3 generic profile.

**acoufap** · 07-09-2018, 10:48 AM

I was one of the first buyers when the K-1 was introduced in germany. Of course C1P didn’t have a dedicated K-1 generic profile. But using the DNG format I could post process my raw captures. C1P simply used the Adobe DNG generic profile and I was very happy with the results.

2rb1 · 07-09-2018, 02:30 PM

Great - I will try out DNG. Mostly chose PEF originally because the file size was smaller.

Which reminds me: I once was on a photo trip, and there was this Cannon guy spending all evening converting his raws into DNG and then back-annotate with position data from his GPS. I told him to buy a Pentax next time :-)

Class A · 07-13-2018, 08:24 AM

Originally posted by 2rb1

Will this use the K1 profile or a generic one?

Whatever camera profile is used per default, you can change it to any other profile available within C1, including those from other cameras. I don't particularly like C1's profile for the K-1, so I use one made for a Sony camera to emulate Fujifilm's digital emulation of their "Provia" film.

Once you found a profile that works for you, you can make it the default camera profile for your camera.

Furthermore, you can tweak any camera profile with the colour editor and then save the result as a new ICC camera profile. In other words, you can create your own colour profiles by tweaking existing ones.

Finally, there are also systematic ways to create accurate camera profiles that aim at colour fidelity. If this seems too involved, then there seems to be a commercial alternative.

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07-06-2018, 05:46 AM	#2
2rb1 New Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 6	Given they usually ignore all but the basic features (say pixel shift, tethering), it should be little work to accept a new flavour of the same camera. This is one good reason never to choose the subscription model - while it is irritating to wait for your camera model to become available, it is even worse if you have also paid for it...

07-06-2018, 09:39 PM	#3
PDL Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: PNW USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,127	Originally posted by 2rb1 Given they usually ignore all but the basic features (say pixel shift, tethering), it should be little work to accept a new flavour of the same camera. This is one good reason never to choose the subscription model - while it is irritating to wait for your camera model to become available, it is even worse if you have also paid for it... I work with CO and they do not support Pixel Shift for any brand (Olympus, Sony, Pentax etc.) and they have never supported tethering on Pentax camera bodies. As for the K-1II, just use DNG and you should be OK.

07-07-2018, 08:32 AM	#4
Mikesul Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7,591 Original Poster	Originally posted by PDL I work with CO and they do not support Pixel Shift for any brand (Olympus, Sony, Pentax etc.) and they have never supported tethering on Pentax camera bodies. As for the K-1II, just use DNG and you should be OK. Nope. DNG is all i use and it does not recognize the files. See jpgs of course but not DNGs from the K-1ii. Retraction!!! I just downloaded and installed 11.2 and i opens the DNGs. Sorry. They do not list the K-1ii so I assumed there was not point in getting the new release. Now I have and it loads the dngs. I assume it will process them normally. Last edited by Mikesul; 07-07-2018 at 08:51 AM.

07-07-2018, 09:56 AM	#5
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617	The main advantages of the MK2 have to do with JPEG processing with the accelerator chip. I doubt a lot of K-1.2 users are using C1.

07-07-2018, 10:49 AM	#6
Mikesul Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7,591 Original Poster	Originally posted by Winder The main advantages of the MK2 have to do with JPEG processing with the accelerator chip. I doubt a lot of K-1.2 users are using C1. Well, I am , now. But you are right about the jpg quality of the K-1ii. But I also like the slightly betteer AF and the handheld PS, although the latter may be something of a placebo. Anyway, I am glad it is now supported, wish they would add pixelshft processing.

07-07-2018, 10:57 AM	#7
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,473	Originally posted by Mikesul Well, I am , now. But you are right about the jpg quality of the K-1ii. But I also like the slightly betteer AF and the handheld PS, although the latter may be something of a placebo. Anyway, I am glad it is now supported, wish they would add pixelshft processing. I think their reply would be "You're lucky we add any support for our competitors at all"...

07-07-2018, 10:58 AM	#8
Mikesul Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7,591 Original Poster	Originally posted by boriscleto I think their reply would be "You're lucky we add any support for our competitors at all"... Isn't the software division separate from the camera division now?

07-07-2018, 11:05 AM	#9
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,473	Originally posted by Mikesul Isn't the software division separate from the camera division now? They seem to present themselves as an all-in-one digital medium format and imaging software company...

07-07-2018, 11:08 AM	#10
Mikesul Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7,591 Original Poster	Originally posted by boriscleto They seem to present themselves as an all-in-one digital medium format and imaging software company... Yes, I have seen those ads but I recall hearing that they had separated hardware and software companies. Maybe not. It is great software.

07-09-2018, 03:10 AM	#11
2rb1 New Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 6	Originally posted by PDL I work with CO and they do not support Pixel Shift for any brand (Olympus, Sony, Pentax etc.) and they have never supported tethering on Pentax camera bodies. As for the K-1II, just use DNG and you should be OK. OK - thanks. Since CO could preview the PEF file; but refused to import it, I assumed it was deliberately blocked. I will try DNG. Will this use the K1 profile or a generic one?

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07-09-2018, 10:38 AM	#12
PDL Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: PNW USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,127	I do not have a K-1 so I can not tell you. On my K-3II is uses the K-3 generic profile.

07-09-2018, 10:48 AM	#13
acoufap Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Munich, Germany Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,184	I was one of the first buyers when the K-1 was introduced in germany. Of course C1P didn’t have a dedicated K-1 generic profile. But using the DNG format I could post process my raw captures. C1P simply used the Adobe DNG generic profile and I was very happy with the results.

07-09-2018, 02:30 PM	#14
2rb1 New Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 6	Great - I will try out DNG. Mostly chose PEF originally because the file size was smaller. Which reminds me: I once was on a photo trip, and there was this Cannon guy spending all evening converting his raws into DNG and then back-annotate with position data from his GPS. I told him to buy a Pentax next time :-)

07-13-2018, 08:24 AM	#15
Class A Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 11,251	Originally posted by 2rb1 Will this use the K1 profile or a generic one? Whatever camera profile is used per default, you can change it to any other profile available within C1, including those from other cameras. I don't particularly like C1's profile for the K-1, so I use one made for a Sony camera to emulate Fujifilm's digital emulation of their "Provia" film. Once you found a profile that works for you, you can make it the default camera profile for your camera. Furthermore, you can tweak any camera profile with the colour editor and then save the result as a new ICC camera profile. In other words, you can create your own colour profiles by tweaking existing ones. Finally, there are also systematic ways to create accurate camera profiles that aim at colour fidelity. If this seems too involved, then there seems to be a commercial alternative.