Is A.I. the future of post processing?

**Rondec** · 10-13-2019, 01:38 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Madaboutpix

There is a grain of truth in this, likely several grains. However, a certain degree of "predictability" can also be an expression of style or at least consistency. Total stasis is the end of creativity, of course.

What you don't want is a program where most photographers who use it end up with a similar look to their images.

**Madaboutpix** · 10-13-2019, 02:18 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Rondec

What you don't want is a program where most photographers who use it end up with a similar look to their images.

Emphatically agreed. That's one of the things (among several) that I like about DxO PhotoLab, in fact. For all its auto-edits and presets (which can be largely disabled and/or tweaked), it encourages individual work on images to bring out their potential.

PDL · 10-13-2019, 04:16 PM

I really don't want to deal with a post processing environment that "thinks" like I do. OOOhhhh the horror.

Fenwoodian · 10-14-2019, 11:19 AM

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Just out! Ctein has tested Topaz Gigapixel AI and he likes it.

Ctein is an expert digital image printer who I hold in high regard.

dave_roe · 10-17-2019, 04:27 AM - **1 Like**

All of the moves to AI will make many fans as they will like the results without any real work.

I am afraid things will all start to look alike.

I have several from the Topaz offering due to free upgrades and find them OK but I still prefer to touch the photos to my thinking of what I like and looks best. Half the fun of photography is getting an image that you like.

edri · 10-31-2019, 11:18 PM

Originally posted by dave_roe

I have several from the Topaz offering due to free upgrades and find them OK but I still prefer to touch the photos to my thinking of what I like and looks best.

I do not like Topaz AIs, for now, because it takes too long to process large images and the results are marginally better than the classic editing.

Fenwoodian · 11-01-2019, 07:18 PM

Originally posted by edri

I do not like Topaz AIs, for now, because it takes too long to process large images and the results are marginally better than the classic editing.

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Topaz Gigapixel AI does two things: sharpen and reduce noise. It does it all in ONE STEP. In the past it would take most of us two steps to do noise reduction and sharpening. I find doing them together on my modern desktop saves time over the "classic way" doing it twice.

You say "takes too long to process". I say "get a newer/faster computer".

Fenwoodian · 11-01-2019, 07:21 PM

Originally posted by dave_roe

I am afraid things will all start to look alike.

All look alike? Topaz Gigapixel AI reduces noise and sharpens. If all of my images start to look alike because they all have incredible sharpness and low noise, I say GREAT! And if everbody's photos are low noise and super sharp I say what's wrong with that?

Also, for those of you who feel that A.I. does the same thing all of the time, I say - haven't you heard of "layer masks"?

edri · 11-01-2019, 10:14 PM

Originally posted by Fenwoodian

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Topaz Gigapixel AI does two things: sharpen and reduce noise. It does it all in ONE STEP. In the past it would take most of us two steps to do noise reduction and sharpening. I find doing them together on my modern desktop saves time over the "classic way" doing it twice.

You say "takes too long to process". I say "get a newer/faster computer".

Sorry. I didn't try GigapixelAI. I was referring to SharpenAI actually.

**DeepThrob** · 11-01-2019, 11:22 PM

Gigapixel AI works great for up-scaling small crops. The noise reduction is sometimes useful, haven't tried sharpener. Topaz Detail is my most used plugin, what can't it do ? Like most Topaz plugins it works by recognizing small, medium and large detail and processing them separately (takes time)

edri · 11-02-2019, 02:16 AM

Originally posted by DeepThrob

Gigapixel AI works great for up-scaling small crops......

I have enough old pictures from the time when I had Pentax K100D Super, 6 megapixels. Are you suggesting that AIGigapixel could be used to increase the resolution of these photos?

10-13-2019, 02:18 PM - 1 Like	#32
Madaboutpix Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North Rhine-Westphalia Posts: 1,440	Originally posted by Rondec What you don't want is a program where most photographers who use it end up with a similar look to their images. Emphatically agreed. That's one of the things (among several) that I like about DxO PhotoLab, in fact. For all its auto-edits and presets (which can be largely disabled and/or tweaked), it encourages individual work on images to bring out their potential. Last edited by Madaboutpix; 10-13-2019 at 02:32 PM. Reason: Clarity

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10-13-2019, 01:38 PM - 1 Like	#31
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,653	Originally posted by Madaboutpix There is a grain of truth in this, likely several grains. However, a certain degree of "predictability" can also be an expression of style or at least consistency. Total stasis is the end of creativity, of course. What you don't want is a program where most photographers who use it end up with a similar look to their images.

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PDL Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: PNW USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,128	I really don't want to deal with a post processing environment that "thinks" like I do. OOOhhhh the horror.

10-14-2019, 11:19 AM	#34
Fenwoodian Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,874 Original Poster	. Just out! Ctein has tested Topaz Gigapixel AI and he likes it. Ctein is an expert digital image printer who I hold in high regard.

10-17-2019, 04:27 AM - 1 Like	#35
dave_roe Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Rome, Italy Photos: Albums Posts: 584	All of the moves to AI will make many fans as they will like the results without any real work. I am afraid things will all start to look alike. I have several from the Topaz offering due to free upgrades and find them OK but I still prefer to touch the photos to my thinking of what I like and looks best. Half the fun of photography is getting an image that you like.

10-31-2019, 11:18 PM	#36
edri Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: walking in the air Posts: 1,315	Originally posted by dave_roe I have several from the Topaz offering due to free upgrades and find them OK but I still prefer to touch the photos to my thinking of what I like and looks best. I do not like Topaz AIs, for now, because it takes too long to process large images and the results are marginally better than the classic editing.

11-01-2019, 07:18 PM	#37
Fenwoodian Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,874 Original Poster	Originally posted by edri I do not like Topaz AIs, for now, because it takes too long to process large images and the results are marginally better than the classic editing. . Topaz Gigapixel AI does two things: sharpen and reduce noise. It does it all in ONE STEP. In the past it would take most of us two steps to do noise reduction and sharpening. I find doing them together on my modern desktop saves time over the "classic way" doing it twice. You say "takes too long to process". I say "get a newer/faster computer".

11-01-2019, 07:21 PM	#38
Fenwoodian Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,874 Original Poster	Originally posted by dave_roe I am afraid things will all start to look alike. All look alike? Topaz Gigapixel AI reduces noise and sharpens. If all of my images start to look alike because they all have incredible sharpness and low noise, I say GREAT! And if everbody's photos are low noise and super sharp I say what's wrong with that? Also, for those of you who feel that A.I. does the same thing all of the time, I say - haven't you heard of "layer masks"?

11-01-2019, 10:14 PM	#39
edri Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: walking in the air Posts: 1,315	Originally posted by Fenwoodian . Topaz Gigapixel AI does two things: sharpen and reduce noise. It does it all in ONE STEP. In the past it would take most of us two steps to do noise reduction and sharpening. I find doing them together on my modern desktop saves time over the "classic way" doing it twice. You say "takes too long to process". I say "get a newer/faster computer". Sorry. I didn't try GigapixelAI. I was referring to SharpenAI actually.

11-01-2019, 11:22 PM	#40
DeepThrob Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Taos, New Mexico Posts: 295	Gigapixel AI works great for up-scaling small crops. The noise reduction is sometimes useful, haven't tried sharpener. Topaz Detail is my most used plugin, what can't it do ? Like most Topaz plugins it works by recognizing small, medium and large detail and processing them separately (takes time)

11-02-2019, 02:16 AM	#41
edri Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: walking in the air Posts: 1,315	Originally posted by DeepThrob Gigapixel AI works great for up-scaling small crops...... I have enough old pictures from the time when I had Pentax K100D Super, 6 megapixels. Are you suggesting that AIGigapixel could be used to increase the resolution of these photos?