K-7 Noise Ninja profile

eagle · 07-29-2009, 05:39 AM

I just spent more than a fair while taking pics of the calibration chart and creating my own noise ninja profiles for the K-7.

If anyone doesn't want to go through this process, PM me and I'll email them through to you.

Basically, I have shot all test shots in RAW, opened them using default settings in ACR, created a profile. Opened them again in ACR and processed them with 'auto' setting for exposure etc, which added approx +1.2 for exp, and profiled again. I was using 50mm manual lens.

I did this for all ISO values from 100 to 6400 in 1/3 steps.

These profiles should provide a good starting point, and seem to err in the favour of retaining details, rather than smudging, and improve even low ISO shots for the pixel peepers

pcarfan · 08-07-2009, 06:19 PM

How exactly does this work?

I have the K-7, lightroom 2.4 and CS2. Can I use this program?, can I purchase a standalone noise ninja that will take this profile.

Can you post some before after pictures of using these profiles.

Thank you.

eagle · 08-07-2009, 10:53 PM

I have the purchased it as a photoshop plugin, but it comes as a stand alone as well I'm pretty sure.
You can select 'Load Profiles' while using noise ninja, pretty simple process.

Here's one example. ISO 3200. No other post production, except noise reduction.

1. Entire image, unedited

2. 100% crop of same image

3. Noise Ninja, using my profile

4. 100% crop of the noise reduced image

Note again, that I have not applied sharpening, levels or curves adjustments.

Arpe · 08-08-2009, 01:54 AM

Thanks for those mate, I think they're pretty good.

PhotoJim · 08-08-2009, 04:58 PM

PM sent!

How do you go about making Noise Ninja profiles? Does it require a test target to photograph?

_Jim

eagle · 08-08-2009, 07:29 PM

you can download a copy of their test chart, follow the instructions on how to photograph it, then profile each picture. It's pretty easy.

pentaxk10duser · 08-09-2009, 11:16 PM

can you post a before noise reduction picture so I can see the differance .thanks Steve

eagle · 08-09-2009, 11:38 PM

First two pics are before noise reduction mate - second two are after

pixel r0n1n · 12-13-2009, 04:11 PM

PM sent - asking about the profile, thanks!

netuser · 12-13-2009, 04:15 PM

Does it also work on noiseware ?

**jpzk** · 12-14-2009, 02:31 PM

PM sent for NN K7 profile too!
Thanks.
JP

netuser · 12-14-2009, 02:43 PM

Any change someone will supply the same usefull profile to noiseware ?

deejjjaaaa · 12-14-2009, 05:18 PM

Originally posted by netuser

Any change someone will supply the same usefull profile to noiseware ?

it does not use the concept of shooting a standard (recommended by Imagenomic itself) target and building a profile like Noise Ninja or Neat Image w/ provided automated tools that expects to see that target... you can build a profile manually, based on some image as a starting point - however it is purely up to you what you will be sampling... and what was useful for one person, might be as well not useful for another... so I am not sure if sharing .NWS files will be of any good... because you do not know what person was profiling actually as a starting point and how... sharing .NWP files (where the results of self learning are being accumulated) ? I am not sure if that will be good too if even if you will be able to share them (I did not try)... you try to shoot something under various light, convert w/ various raw converters, using various NR parameters in those raw converters and open each shot in Photoshop, rum noiseware w/ self learing enabled and see what get accumulated in .NWP file (note that they are per camera model x per ISO x color mode (lab/rgb) x per color space (ProPhoto/sRGB/etc))

Osef · 12-16-2009, 06:38 PM

PM sent for K7 NN profile.

Thanks!
Osef

**Mutters** · 12-16-2009, 07:17 PM

Hey Eagle

God work, but isn't it interesting that the 3200 iso sample isn't too bad straight up?

You must have one of those rare "good" K-7s.

( I have too, btw )

mutters

07-29-2009, 05:39 AM	#1
eagle Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Brisbane Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 82	K-7 Noise Ninja profile I just spent more than a fair while taking pics of the calibration chart and creating my own noise ninja profiles for the K-7. If anyone doesn't want to go through this process, PM me and I'll email them through to you. Basically, I have shot all test shots in RAW, opened them using default settings in ACR, created a profile. Opened them again in ACR and processed them with 'auto' setting for exposure etc, which added approx +1.2 for exp, and profiled again. I was using 50mm manual lens. I did this for all ISO values from 100 to 6400 in 1/3 steps. These profiles should provide a good starting point, and seem to err in the favour of retaining details, rather than smudging, and improve even low ISO shots for the pixel peepers

08-08-2009, 04:58 PM	#5
PhotoJim New Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 6	Neat PM sent! How do you go about making Noise Ninja profiles? Does it require a test target to photograph? _Jim

12-14-2009, 05:18 PM	#13
deejjjaaaa Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: steel city / rust belt Posts: 2,043	Originally posted by netuser Any change someone will supply the same usefull profile to noiseware ? it does not use the concept of shooting a standard (recommended by Imagenomic itself) target and building a profile like Noise Ninja or Neat Image w/ provided automated tools that expects to see that target... you can build a profile manually, based on some image as a starting point - however it is purely up to you what you will be sampling... and what was useful for one person, might be as well not useful for another... so I am not sure if sharing .NWS files will be of any good... because you do not know what person was profiling actually as a starting point and how... sharing .NWP files (where the results of self learning are being accumulated) ? I am not sure if that will be good too if even if you will be able to share them (I did not try)... you try to shoot something under various light, convert w/ various raw converters, using various NR parameters in those raw converters and open each shot in Photoshop, rum noiseware w/ self learing enabled and see what get accumulated in .NWP file (note that they are per camera model x per ISO x color mode (lab/rgb) x per color space (ProPhoto/sRGB/etc)) Last edited by deejjjaaaa; 12-14-2009 at 05:42 PM.

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08-07-2009, 06:19 PM	#2
pcarfan Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Dayton, Ohio Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,978	How exactly does this work? I have the K-7, lightroom 2.4 and CS2. Can I use this program?, can I purchase a standalone noise ninja that will take this profile. Can you post some before after pictures of using these profiles. Thank you.

08-07-2009, 10:53 PM	#3
eagle Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Brisbane Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 82 Original Poster	I have the purchased it as a photoshop plugin, but it comes as a stand alone as well I'm pretty sure. You can select 'Load Profiles' while using noise ninja, pretty simple process. Here's one example. ISO 3200. No other post production, except noise reduction. 1. Entire image, unedited 2. 100% crop of same image 3. Noise Ninja, using my profile 4. 100% crop of the noise reduced image Note again, that I have not applied sharpening, levels or curves adjustments.

08-08-2009, 01:54 AM	#4
Arpe Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: New Zealand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,452	Thanks for those mate, I think they're pretty good.

08-08-2009, 07:29 PM	#6
eagle Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Brisbane Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 82 Original Poster	you can download a copy of their test chart, follow the instructions on how to photograph it, then profile each picture. It's pretty easy.

08-09-2009, 11:16 PM	#7
pentaxk10duser Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Kentucky Photos: Albums Posts: 165	can you post a before noise reduction picture so I can see the differance .thanks Steve

08-09-2009, 11:38 PM	#8
eagle Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Brisbane Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 82 Original Poster	First two pics are before noise reduction mate - second two are after

12-13-2009, 04:11 PM	#9
pixel r0n1n Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: 514 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 123	PM sent - asking about the profile, thanks!

12-13-2009, 04:15 PM	#10
netuser Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Azores Islands, Portugal Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,236	Does it also work on noiseware ?

12-14-2009, 02:31 PM	#11
jpzk Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Québec Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,251	PM sent for NN K7 profile too! Thanks. JP

12-14-2009, 02:43 PM	#12
netuser Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Azores Islands, Portugal Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,236	Any change someone will supply the same usefull profile to noiseware ?

12-16-2009, 06:38 PM	#14
Osef New Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: United States Posts: 22	PM sent for K7 NN profile. Thanks! Osef

12-16-2009, 07:17 PM	#15
Mutters Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Photos: Albums Posts: 262	Hey Eagle God work, but isn't it interesting that the 3200 iso sample isn't too bad straight up? You must have one of those rare "good" K-7s. ( I have too, btw ) mutters