[GeneV]

A note regarding scanner resolution...Claimed resolution and actual performance are two different things. There are several brands that claim resolutions of 7200 dpi and which produce HUGE files as a result. Unfortunately, the actual resolution is closer to 3200 dpi. Here is a good site for comparative scanner tests (even better if you read German):

Detailed test reports and experience reports about film scanners slide scanners: market overview, application in practice

Steve

Thanks for that link. It is an excellent site for scanner tests, and, as you said, the German version is better.

[irchan]

There are higher resolution drum scanners, but the Coolscan V or 5000 at 4000 dpi (equivalent to 24 Megapixel) is pretty much the top end for what anyone might purchase outside the publishing industry.

As for grain...no film is grain free, although some are extremely fine-grained. As a result, a scanned image will include the film grain (more or less accurately reproduced) as well as a certain amount of artifact. Ironically, a course-grained negative will yield a more accurate scan as compared to an optical enlargement. In practice, when using a fine-grained film such as Ektar 100 and the Coolscan 5000, grain is usually not an issue even at full resolution.

Steve

if it's pretty much the top end, well, it's good enough for me

as for "grain free", i ment no grain at all, that would be impossible but i want to know the efke 25 grain, since i want to purchase it from freestyle

thx

[irchan]

My Nikon Coolscan 9000 produces 35mm scans that are 5307 x 3622. The resulting TIFF files can be around 100mb if you use 16bit color depth. The 9000 has a softer light than the 5000, which supposedly de-emphasizes grain and dust, but you will definitely see the film grain. As others have posted, what you want to do with the grain is up to you.

do you have 120 film scanned from 9000ED? i always wondering about it, since even the 35mm scan from coolscan amazed me from time to time

[irchan]

What film is that picture? Looks like a colour neg, ISO 400?

I think you could probably get more out of 35mm, however that pic has probably reached it's limit.

As said no film is without grain but some are very fine-grained. If you want a grain-free image you could try Velvia. I can post examples, not scanned with a Coolscan but an Epson V700 that should come quite close.

The problem with scanning at these high resolutions is that you need such a good neg/slide to start with. I see benefits in scanning at the V700's max resolution (6400ppi), but only if I have a really good neg/slide. That is, shot with a sharp lens at an appropriate aperture.

Gooshin. According to this the V700 actually gives more detail (at the same resolution) than the Coolscan 4000 but I don't know how old that is and how it compares against the newer Coolscans. Do you have any info on this?

Btw, does anyone have a good tip on some site where you get to upload high res. pictures free?

well, the site doesn't gave any info about film used, maybe it's still under construction or they already gone digital
but i think it's a 400 iso negative film, something like superia 400 which is pretty common on southeast asia

or it might be 200 iso film, but the coolscan picking up more grain just like Gooshin said

[GeneV]

do you have 120 film scanned from 9000ED? i always wondering about it, since even the 35mm scan from coolscan amazed me from time to time

Not yet. I bought the scanner last year, and I have been working hard on my 35mm. Hopefully, I will get into the 645 this year.

[irchan]

1. DPI is not the same as output resolution. Therefore you cannot compare FILM with Digital based on the size of the scan.

an Epson V700 (or whatever), will produce a higher resolution scan than a Nikon Coolscan 5000ED, but it was have less detail.


2. grain is one of the reasons to shoot film.. why would you want to get rid of it? In fact a GOOD scanner is one that picks up the grain, grain is what you focus on. (if you have ever used a dark-room enlarger)

3. some scanners however can help eliminate dust and scratches (so long as its not b/w negs), which is beneficial.

thx for the info, i always confused between dpi and megapixel

as for grain, i agree it's a feature not limitation, i just wondering what iso 25 film scanned look like

[GeneV]

thx for the info, i always confused between dpi and megapixel

as for grain, i agree it's a feature not limitation, i just wondering what iso 25 film scanned look like

I've scanned a ton of Kodachrome 25. This one is from 1982. Pardon the large file in this example if you download it, but shrinking them down does not do the beauty of the slow film justice.

[stevebrot]

this is why people shouldnt block my posts.... LOL

What does this mean?

Steve

[Gooshin]

What does this mean?

Steve

we were posting the same links and saying the same things almost in tandem, made for a funny post..

plus last i checked you put me on block

[Jimfear]

I've scanned a ton of Kodachrome 25. This one is from 1982. Pardon the large file in this example if you download it, but shrinking them down does not do the beauty of the slow film justice.

That looks very good at full size. And almost no grain. If you have any pics. that show heavy shadows and bright highlights it would be interesting to see, from what I understand the 9000 shines when it comes to dynamic range.

[Ben_Edict]

See this article (towards the bottom of the page) for real-world V700 resolution:

Test report flatbed-film-scanner Epson Perfection V700 Photo with transparency unit: experiences, image quality, scanning

It is a good scanner and an obvious choice for 120/220 roll film and/or wet mounting on a budget, but I am not so sure about 35mm.

Steve

I use the V700. It is en par resolutionwise with my old Nikon Coolscan III LS-30 - around 2200 - 2300 dpi real resolution. But the colours are much better out of the box (and especially after tweaking the settings in Silverfast or Vuescan), than I could ever get out of the Nikon. I sold of the Nikon and keep the V700, even for 35mm, though I rarely scan this small format. I bought it primarily for 120 and 4x5.

So, I really think about buying a dedicated scanner for 35mm again (before the LS-300 I used a Canon 2700), to get a bit more real resolution for these small slides, but I am yet undecided... Perhaps "scanning" with the K20 would be an alternative.

The Scan-Service Scannen Dias Negative Fotos APS-Filme Mittelformate; Dienstleistung Digitalisieren Einscannen, Video-Digitalisierung website is associated with a web shop, which specialises in film scanners. Very nicely done.

They do update their website with new scanners, when these become available, but they do not go back to older reviews and update those, which I can understand, given that this is not a hobby, but a business.

Ben

[stevebrot]

we were posting the same links and saying the same things almost in tandem, made for a funny post..

plus last i checked you put me on block

Same site different pages...

Steve