mac or windows

trishytee · 04-29-2010, 11:42 PM

I am in between computers at the moment and I have always used IBM (Windows) but my friend has an Apple and it does have some nice photo options. The president of my camera club says to staywith Windlows as there are some programmes which don't work on apple. Now I know it is oranges and apples, but thought this would be the place to get answers. Any advice???

kottier · 04-29-2010, 11:59 PM

Well, you can run Windows on a Mac, even run Windows programs inside Mac OS with some additional software. I've already set my mind that my next computer will be a Mac, now just waiting till my current (6 year old) laptop gives me an excuse to replace it...

trishytee · 04-30-2010, 12:13 AM

Oh, that sounds interesting. Can you tell me the 'howes' of that? and what do you mean when you say 'run programmes inside Mac OS (OS?)? thank you.

Perrumpo · 04-30-2010, 12:19 AM

Going along with what kottier said, if you're open to a Mac, there's no reason not to get one since if you ever do need a Windows-only program, you can easily run it. Furthermore, Macs do have great software of their own, made by Apple, that is excellent for photography. iPhoto being the consumer, free app and Aperture being the pro app. To be honest, I don't see a need for a photography program on a Mac that is Windows-only anyway. A Mac can do it all when it comes to photography. In fact, it is most often preferred for such tasks.

Everything is easier, too. For example, I don't even have to convert my RAW files. I can drag a picture from iPhoto to my Desktop, and it's instantly a jpg on my desktop (with EXIF). Of course, you can keep it RAW, too.

noahpurdy · 04-30-2010, 12:21 AM

No reason not to get a Mac if you can afford one. Simple as that.

As far as running Windows programs within Mac OS X, check out VMware Fusion.

Ari · 04-30-2010, 12:21 AM

It used to be that it made more sense to get a mac for pp work. Photoshop tended to work better on it and it was a little more intuitive. I still prefer macs in general, but at this point, you can put together a great, fast pc, hook it up to a vibrant monitor and do great work on it. I still think the general UI of Mac is less obtrusive and more user friendly than pcs, but in terms of cost, it may make sense to look at other alternatives.

Perrumpo · 04-30-2010, 12:24 AM

Originally posted by trishytee

Oh, that sounds interesting. Can you tell me the 'howes' of that? and what do you mean when you say 'run programmes inside Mac OS (OS?)? thank you.

Well, for one, there is a program called Parallels Desktop (there are others, too) that you run on you mac that lets you run Windows while you're in Mac OS. This is as opposed to using the program Bootcamp (included with every Mac) where you can boot in either Windows or Mac. The latter allows for a fully-powered Windows experience, whereas Parallels is more for quicker/lighter tasks instead of heavy lifting like gaming or video editing.

trishytee · 04-30-2010, 12:36 AM

Hmmm. I am leaning toward Mac, especially like the idea of instant jpg. As for the price, seems to get what I want: that is decent monitor and lots of memory the price seems similar. I just bought a Dell for 16.000, which has been returned, so figure to only have to add a little to get the Apple. I do like the ialbum set up. err, sorry but what is OS?

**Fries** · 04-30-2010, 03:08 AM

Originally posted by trishytee

err, sorry but what is OS?

Operating System!?

**Ash** · 04-30-2010, 03:18 AM

Trishy, at your stage, I think you'll find the Mac's more appealing to you even if for the more 'user-friendly' interface it offers, physically and functionally. Browse through the Apple website for the iMac options to give you a feel for the all-in-one options available, and factor in the extra RAM/hard-disk space/software that you may want.

**boriscleto** · 04-30-2010, 04:22 AM

If you make the switch there are some sites from Apple you will want to check out.

Apple - Support - Switch 101

Apple - Support - Mac 101

Apple - Support - Discussions - Forum Home

As for running Window$ on the Mac, try out VirtualBox from Sun Microsystems. It's free.

VirtualBox

You can also run some Window$ programs on Mac without Window$. You can install Wine (Wine is not an Emulator) or the commercial version Crossover.

Installing Wine on Mac OS X

Windows Applications Seamlessly Integrated on Mac OS X - Mac Windows - CodeWeavers

trishytee · 04-30-2010, 05:13 AM

thanks for all the info; I think I am in if ever I get my refund from Dell. Thanks for the sites boriscleto, I shall save them and I am sure they will be very useful.
cheers, Trish

bimjo · 04-30-2010, 07:37 AM

Get thee to an Apple retail store. Play to your hearts content. Ask a zillion questions of the resident helpful folk (employees & others).

Buying an Apple is a considerable investment. It's nice to be able to see & touch all the options in person before you buy.

I've been running Macs for 8 years now and finally got he wife switched over last year. She was a reluctant computer user before, now she's on it every day.

YMMV, but probably not.

RoxnDox · 04-30-2010, 07:51 AM

Originally posted by bimjo

Get thee to an Apple retail store. Play to your hearts content. Ask a zillion questions of the resident helpful folk (employees & others).

Buying an Apple is a considerable investment. It's nice to be able to see & touch all the options in person before you buy.

I've been running Macs for 8 years now and finally got he wife switched over last year. She was a reluctant computer user before, now she's on it every day.

YMMV, but probably not.

That's the best advice so far. Go play with a Mac and decide if you like it or not, because personal preferences are important. Some folks like Mac interface, some like Windows, some like Linux (and in that group some like Gnome, some like KDE, etc...). Some of us even like "real" Unix and build web pages using vi in an xterm

...

Personally, I despised the old Mac interface, before Apple put a Unix under the hood and revamped the interface. Now it's pretty nice. I'm accustomed to the way Winders works though, so I stick with it. You're in a position to go either way so find out which one you like better. As far as software goes, they both have programs to do pretty much whatever you want so I don't consider that nearly as big a factor as some folks do.

Jim

Ratmagiclady · 04-30-2010, 08:32 AM

*hiding*

Frankly, it seems that a lot of the gap has closed. I'm not a big fan of Microsoft by any means, but I'd consider how quickly you might adapt to the different OS. I was given an older Mac and found I didn't really have the brainspace. I was trying to learn too much under far-less-than ideal conditions at the time, ...a big gripe about Mac for me is it tends to assume everything's working great, meaning you have to repeat everything from scratch if it doesn't. (A new-but- wonky scanner device proved nightmarish: I couldn't tell what was wrong.

04-29-2010, 11:42 PM	#1
trishytee Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Mandurah Perth Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 221	mac or windows I am in between computers at the moment and I have always used IBM (Windows) but my friend has an Apple and it does have some nice photo options. The president of my camera club says to staywith Windlows as there are some programmes which don't work on apple. Now I know it is oranges and apples, but thought this would be the place to get answers. Any advice???

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kottier New Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Den Ham Posts: 16	Well, you can run Windows on a Mac, even run Windows programs inside Mac OS with some additional software. I've already set my mind that my next computer will be a Mac, now just waiting till my current (6 year old) laptop gives me an excuse to replace it...

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trishytee Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Mandurah Perth Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 221 Original Poster	Oh, that sounds interesting. Can you tell me the 'howes' of that? and what do you mean when you say 'run programmes inside Mac OS (OS?)? thank you.

04-30-2010, 12:19 AM	#4
Perrumpo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Photos: Gallery Posts: 207	Going along with what kottier said, if you're open to a Mac, there's no reason not to get one since if you ever do need a Windows-only program, you can easily run it. Furthermore, Macs do have great software of their own, made by Apple, that is excellent for photography. iPhoto being the consumer, free app and Aperture being the pro app. To be honest, I don't see a need for a photography program on a Mac that is Windows-only anyway. A Mac can do it all when it comes to photography. In fact, it is most often preferred for such tasks. Everything is easier, too. For example, I don't even have to convert my RAW files. I can drag a picture from iPhoto to my Desktop, and it's instantly a jpg on my desktop (with EXIF). Of course, you can keep it RAW, too.

04-30-2010, 12:21 AM	#5
noahpurdy Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 479	No reason not to get a Mac if you can afford one. Simple as that. As far as running Windows programs within Mac OS X, check out VMware Fusion.

04-30-2010, 12:21 AM	#6
Ari Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Freehold, NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 856	It used to be that it made more sense to get a mac for pp work. Photoshop tended to work better on it and it was a little more intuitive. I still prefer macs in general, but at this point, you can put together a great, fast pc, hook it up to a vibrant monitor and do great work on it. I still think the general UI of Mac is less obtrusive and more user friendly than pcs, but in terms of cost, it may make sense to look at other alternatives.

04-30-2010, 12:24 AM	#7
Perrumpo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Photos: Gallery Posts: 207	Originally posted by trishytee Oh, that sounds interesting. Can you tell me the 'howes' of that? and what do you mean when you say 'run programmes inside Mac OS (OS?)? thank you. Well, for one, there is a program called Parallels Desktop (there are others, too) that you run on you mac that lets you run Windows while you're in Mac OS. This is as opposed to using the program Bootcamp (included with every Mac) where you can boot in either Windows or Mac. The latter allows for a fully-powered Windows experience, whereas Parallels is more for quicker/lighter tasks instead of heavy lifting like gaming or video editing.

04-30-2010, 12:36 AM	#8
trishytee Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Mandurah Perth Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 221 Original Poster	Hmmm. I am leaning toward Mac, especially like the idea of instant jpg. As for the price, seems to get what I want: that is decent monitor and lots of memory the price seems similar. I just bought a Dell for 16.000, which has been returned, so figure to only have to add a little to get the Apple. I do like the ialbum set up. err, sorry but what is OS?

04-30-2010, 03:08 AM	#9
Fries Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Gauw Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,582	Originally posted by trishytee err, sorry but what is OS? Operating System!?

04-30-2010, 03:18 AM	#10
Ash Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toowoomba, Queensland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,920	Trishy, at your stage, I think you'll find the Mac's more appealing to you even if for the more 'user-friendly' interface it offers, physically and functionally. Browse through the Apple website for the iMac options to give you a feel for the all-in-one options available, and factor in the extra RAM/hard-disk space/software that you may want.

04-30-2010, 04:22 AM	#11
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,475	If you make the switch there are some sites from Apple you will want to check out. Apple - Support - Switch 101 Apple - Support - Mac 101 Apple - Support - Discussions - Forum Home As for running Window$ on the Mac, try out VirtualBox from Sun Microsystems. It's free. VirtualBox You can also run some Window$ programs on Mac without Window$. You can install Wine (Wine is not an Emulator) or the commercial version Crossover. Installing Wine on Mac OS X Windows Applications Seamlessly Integrated on Mac OS X - Mac Windows - CodeWeavers

04-30-2010, 05:13 AM	#12
trishytee Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Mandurah Perth Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 221 Original Poster	thanks for all the info; I think I am in if ever I get my refund from Dell. Thanks for the sites boriscleto, I shall save them and I am sure they will be very useful. cheers, Trish

04-30-2010, 07:37 AM	#13
bimjo Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pasco, WA Posts: 967	Get thee to an Apple retail store. Play to your hearts content. Ask a zillion questions of the resident helpful folk (employees & others). Buying an Apple is a considerable investment. It's nice to be able to see & touch all the options in person before you buy. I've been running Macs for 8 years now and finally got he wife switched over last year. She was a reluctant computer user before, now she's on it every day. YMMV, but probably not.

04-30-2010, 07:51 AM	#14
RoxnDox Pentaxian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Gig Harbor, Washington, USA, Terra Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,494	Originally posted by bimjo Get thee to an Apple retail store. Play to your hearts content. Ask a zillion questions of the resident helpful folk (employees & others). Buying an Apple is a considerable investment. It's nice to be able to see & touch all the options in person before you buy. I've been running Macs for 8 years now and finally got he wife switched over last year. She was a reluctant computer user before, now she's on it every day. YMMV, but probably not. That's the best advice so far. Go play with a Mac and decide if you like it or not, because personal preferences are important. Some folks like Mac interface, some like Windows, some like Linux (and in that group some like Gnome, some like KDE, etc...). Some of us even like "real" Unix and build web pages using vi in an xterm ... Personally, I despised the old Mac interface, before Apple put a Unix under the hood and revamped the interface. Now it's pretty nice. I'm accustomed to the way Winders works though, so I stick with it. You're in a position to go either way so find out which one you like better. As far as software goes, they both have programs to do pretty much whatever you want so I don't consider that nearly as big a factor as some folks do. Jim

04-30-2010, 08:32 AM	#15
Ratmagiclady Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: GA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,563	hiding Frankly, it seems that a lot of the gap has closed. I'm not a big fan of Microsoft by any means, but I'd consider how quickly you might adapt to the different OS. I was given an older Mac and found I didn't really have the brainspace. I was trying to learn too much under far-less-than ideal conditions at the time, ...a big gripe about Mac for me is it tends to assume everything's working great, meaning you have to repeat everything from scratch if it doesn't. (A new-but- wonky scanner device proved nightmarish: I couldn't tell what was wrong.